P75 ... Oi!!!

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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In some cases… really low quantities, below what you’d initially assume would be effective, will do a better job than an overdose… I’m currently experimeting with “best of class” quality men’s fragrances, minus known pheromones… sometimes in combinations these have a quite distinct nature-musky-woody-animalish signature… in contrast to “commodity” or B scents, which the nose-hypothalamus-sexbrain seesm to interpret as smelly chemicals in search of an identity… honestly I’ve had as good results with uber-fragrances in low intensities, one does not wish to convey gigolo or creepy male tantric sorts of impressions, so the goods should only hint at their presence, the service guy who cleans out the inside of my copier comes in reeking of urinal puck/las vegas/stripper pole jive juice he seems to shower in, to complement the way too tight for comfortable movement polyester duds… my mind is wandering back to a younger, less experienced John Travolta, minus the charisma… noooooo… let’s not do that, yokay ?

Hitting the A counter, there’s the earthy Lorenzo Villoresi fragrance Piper Nigrum… the drydown is like bales of good hay… And then there’s Parfumerie Generale… with their cannabis inflected Coze… something about that cannabis note awakens lustful urgings in certain persons, or Hermes… almost nobody has wised up to Bel Ami… one of the deepest, richest, most erotic fragrances in town, use sparingly, this will dominate an entire room if you spray on too much…

With these and a multitude of other combinations, women sometimes get a little nuts around me, in a low key way… and iIm thinking, OK, if we’ve hit the sweet spot here, warmed up but not imbalanced, I want to titrate in pheromones with great care, maybe in at a mu or two, or one could project confusing social signals…

P75= Eye contact, mr gentleman
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Yes I wonder if the powerful exaggerated sexual effect P75 has on me ONLY once ‘things start heating up already’ is related to the headrushes that users have reported (as pasted in below)… could P75 be triggering something that is indirectly or directly exaggerating arousal? I guess more people could try high doses of it during intimate encounters and see how they feel…

P75 … Oi!!!
Dancing_Joker (May 1, 2006):
"I’ve been trying P75 since Friday. The first time I applied P75 to my skin, I had a sensation similar to a none rush (slight pounding in my head, boost in energy, increase in visual acuity), and that was only one drop of a mix with P75! During my tests with mixes usingP75, I’ve experienced more head rushes, as if there were a weight bearing down on my head and shoulders.

On Sunday, I used a total of ~150 mcg over the course of 4 hours. I woke up Monday morning with serious light headedness and slight dizziness. It felt as if my perception were visually distorted, but while I was disoriented physically, my mind was clear and actually focused. It also felt as if I had a strange headache that lasted throughout the day.

Has anyone else experienced this? If P75 causes disorientation or headaches in men, I can see how it would drive men away like someone mentioned previously."

P75 … Oi!!!
Homura83 (May 6, 2006):
“Ok here’s my analysis of P75 after a week’s use.I can only take around 3 max 4sprays.Anything more and I’ll feel a slight throb in my head,and my head feels heavy like I’m drunk.But women do react well to it.I notice they feel quite happy and chatty in my area.An effect which is quite similar to Androstadienone.I can’t tell any difference between them yet.But they definitely do give you the attention from women you need.And they do repel males.”

Yet again. (Latina, MX113 + TAA oil)
Homura83 (October 10, 2006):
“…I have P75 also at 15mcg,unscented.Its effects at this dosage are very prominent.It has quite an unpleasant effect on the wearer and guys around you.A spray of 15mcg would cause your mood and other guys around you from normal to bad.It causes everyone to have a bad mood and be quite aggressive,even more aggressive than on none.It does not have any significant sexual effects on females to observe.Definitely will not make the wearer feel good.It gives a head heavy feel and you do not have the mood to do anything when you are using it.In summary it would just not do you any good on a date,when you’re supposed to feel good and enjoy your time.Still have 3/4 bottle left,can’t bring myself to use it anymore when I’m having such an enjoyable time with the other feel good pheromones. …”

P75 after 20 minutes
Lor (March 27, 2007):
"my dosage says i have 12.5mu and its in a to-go.

i spray, and after 20 minutes its already hitting me .

i get the initial headrush that comes from new pheromone use, atleast for me. its a doozy.

i find im aggravated if im not doing something and there is pressure above the bridge of my nose. that,my friends, has never happened .
its not uncomfortable, just weird. ha- its like someone is holding their finger on my third eye , its THAT strange. whats right there? a gland? pituitary? whatever, i feel it

i feel the urge to keep wrinkling my nose.

ill post an hour down the line,see what happens ."

Lor (March 27, 2007):
Quote:
Originally Posted by sigma
VNO?

"i thought about that, but its so high up (but still in the sinus cavity i think) that i blew it off.

its strong stuff, it isnt a familiar feeling.

its all numb up in there though. the way i imagine botox,lol.
i keep touching between my eyes to see if i can feel it yet "

Lor (March 27, 2007):
"i sprayed inside of my lower arms.

im mentally hyper but my body is relaxed.

im definatly flitting from subject to subject, in smaller doses i’ll bet this stuff is super social.
its not the spacy feeling you get from Alpha Androstenol , because my mind is going… but priority and subject matter are definatly skewed, things i need to do dont feel as pressing.

not a sexually inclined putative, from my view.

on the phone with a SO and i didnt feel a stir.
he was going in that direction,too but…meh.

definatly not a dud, but i need to be out socially to get a handle on it."

Lor (March 27, 2007):
"well its been hours now, and the effects have mellowed.

less physical reaction, the same mental thought juggling.
i think im getting good at it

i had a rapport with this storage rental gal, i dont know if its the P75 or the MX134 at this point because i put the MX134 on before i left, but we talked for an hour…over family.

hmmm "

P75 - I'm a Man
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Thank you for this great recopilations of info! :slight_smile:

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That’s kind of you Capone!

I wish more people would test P75 , P76 and even P77 , separately and especially in ‘intimate encounters’. I can see why MHarris recommended to go low on these given the effects of P75 are quite strong in its own way…

P76 sounds very Androstenone -like according to SwingerMD’s experiences (pasted in below) but who knows what the differences may be - I am sure it has some kind of ‘niche’ like every other putative that works in some way. Has anyone tried lower doses of P76 (say 2.5-10 mcg) in social situations - SwingerMD was getting tense reactions at 60 mcg for example? Has it been added on its own (without something else spoiling the effect) perhaps at low doses in ‘intimate encounters’?

P77 so far has no results on the forum but has 300 mcg (just a random large dose) at a time of it been tried by anyone? Has it been added on its own (without something else spoiling the effect) in ‘intimate encounters’?

Instant Female Magic question?
MHarris (17 April 2006):
“…P75 and P76, too, if they prove to be useful, may be very sexual or at least attention getting…”

P74
MHarris (19 April 2006):
“… P75 and P76, if they end up acting pheromonally in a generative manner, may actually end up being stronger than androstenone… so caution should be exercised. I’d start very low with these.”

P74
MHarris (19 April 2006):
"…I know nothing definite about them P75 and P76 ] at all. That’s why they’re putative, after all.

These are just educated hunches based on their place in the metabolic chain, structure, and location on the body.

When I start to see a pattern emerge with over similar results from a good numbers of testers/users (40+ correlations is good), things get less amorphous and far more definite."

Suggestions for MHarris regarding future putative pheromones
MHarris (29 April 2006):
“…P75 and P76 may end up being pro-sexual in a strong, overt manner, like androstenone.”

Suggestions for MHarris regarding future putative pheromones
MHarris (30 April 2006):
“…If I found the next great super, dripping hot monkey sex pheromone like androstenone, then I’d be quite happy with that (and partly whatP75 and P76 are attempts at)…If you want genital area pheromones, definitely check out P75 and P76. There may be some more in the testputative series, too.”

P75 … Oi!!!
MHarris (2 May 2006):
“…Go low with P75 through P77.”

P75 … Oi!!!
MHarris (6 May 2006):
“…To other who want to test the putatives: I recommend the lowest dosage we sell for P75 to P77, until more is known about them. Caution is the order of the day with complete unknowns…”

P74
SwingerMD (11 April 2006):
“…Actually, I think that 60mcgs of p76 might just be a tad (x2) OD. I’m going to go with about 30mcgs. I started seeing -none like hits towards the end of the dance. Also had a woman act extremely apologetic to “taking my sitting space” as she put it. This kinda tipped me off that on p76, applications may have to be on the light side…”

P74
SwingerMD (21 April 2006):
“…My conclusions with p76 is that it may be very potent at low doses. May have to go back and play with it more later. I spent a lot of time withp77 (and a lot of sprays) testing it at two dances, a family get together, and a day at work. Never went more than 60mcg (tried 30mcg). Didn’t really notice anything. This ones turning into a big head scratcher for me…”

P74
SwingerMD (23 April 2006):
“…I did try once with a dose of 30mcg. No noticable rxn. Perhaps that is still too much. It seems to me that p76 is definately -none like. With -none (from what I have observed) there is a range of dosage that is in between ideal and reactionary OD. When you are in this between range, noticing any rxns is very hard since the concentration is not quite enough to send everyone within a 10 ft radius to “run off into the hills”. If you are very observant you can pick up that everyone around you is tense/ a bit tightly wound up. I’m thinking of going back later and start with one spray of 5 mcgs.”

P74
SwingerMD (24 April 2006):
"…For me Androstadienone, gives me such a nasty headache that I usually not in a very receptive mood when I wear it. P75 doesn’t effect me negatively at all (the other guys don’t seem to like it much).

As for specific character to each:
p74 “Inner connection”
p75 “Centered”
p76 “Tense/ on edge”
p77 “?!”
p78 “Spacey”"
p78 “Spacey”

before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?
SwingerMD (27 July 2006):
“…For p76, I’m thinking that the ideal amount might be somewhere between 30 mcgs and 60 mcgs. At around 60 mcg I kinda get the vibe off people that is very similar to the vibe that I get if I overshot my ideal -none dose, but not enough to start repelling people like the plague. Everyone is tense. Perhaps a bit of LT or perhaps Instant Honesty would loosen people’s tounges to give me more of an idea on what is running through their heads when I have p76 on…”

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Unfortunately I don’t have them (yet :smiley:)…

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P74
MHarris (19 March 2006):
"…At the moment, I’m actually blind to them all. (i.e., I don’t what #s go with what pheromone)…

There’s two, that if they are pheromones, would probably have OD characteristics quite like -none. I suppose I should find out which ones those are, so you can be extra cautious with them (they’re also truly interesting molecules that really pique my own interest)

Otherwise, 25mcg-50mcg should be a quick ‘sorter’ for the other ones, if you’re after speed."

P74
MHarris (20 March 2006):
Quote:
Originally Posted by catlord17
Yes, please, do tell! What are you basing this speculation on, and what other speculative qualities might they have? Or would that be poisoning the well,so to speak?

"I suppose it won’t hurt too much.

They excite me due to their larger than natural presence in the head sweat of men predominantly rated as typical “sexy” by women. (the presence in head sweat being a major clue that they may be pheromones)

I’ll find out which two they are on Monday, and let you know. If I don’t post it right away, just bump this thread by asking again."

Suggestions for MHarris regarding future putative mones
MHarris (29 April 2006):
“…Just because a potential pheromone is found in the head sweat of brutally sexy men, doesn’t mean it’s not found in their “genital sweat”, as well…”

Replacing AndrosteNone with regard to Attraction, Phase Shifting, and Lust Enhancing
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Consider using low ranges of p75, possibly 5 mu or less per application, in concert with the friendly phro molecules… most of the negative reactions sound like heavy overdosing… there are pheromones that you can apply liberally, and there are others that are like catalysts, only a small amount can have a dramatic effect in the right direction, and too much can throw the whole perceptual-behavioral balance… where most people will just shut down or want to escape your intensity…

P75= Eye contact, mr gentleman
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Some support for P75 's ‘jerk’ effect from 17-year-old male kutibah (see posts pasted in below). For me personally at 60 mcg + of P75 , I definitely felt kind of aggressive in a sexually frustrated kind of way (similar feeling to Androstenone ) with P75 on so I guess that could be what kutibah means when he says it makes him feel like a jerk.

P75 definitely shares some but definitely not all the properties of Androstenone . I still think P75’s best use may be in intimate encounters where you want to keep the animalistic passion but without the tension that it’s big cousin Androstenone can bring along with it…

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/mx-102-college-apps-d-5964.html#post61983

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kutibah (September 2007):
"Well, P75 in my opinion is very strange. I’m already half through the bottle with the results still vague. But it definitely does SOMETHING. However, I have noticed people of both sexes to become more aggressive when I have it on. Maybe I’ll try ODing on it to see if it can be more determinable "

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/mx-102-college-apps-d-5964.html#post62004

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kutibah (September 2007):
"I wear about 2-3 sprays [of P75 ]. I’ve noticed women seem to definitely react much more than men. But I don’t know how to describe the reactions, it’s like a playful aggression, yet in some ways more serious. I’m not yet sure if I like it 100% yet.

And to me, it makes me feel like a jerk? Haha, yeah, it seems like it may have some effects of Instant Jerk, but since I don’t have that I can’t really compare the two."

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P75 is really gooood stuff… with this rock solid caveat, it must be dosed low, in the range of 1-2 mu per application, (total, all squirts combined) absolute maximum… what people are describing here is a bad overdose… because some pheromones stay nice and comfy in the 100 mu range does not mean ALL pheromnes have the same dosage response curve… probably 1-2 mu is the maximal output of a healthy young male human, so what seems conservative, 15 mu is like being in a close packed locker room with 15 rowdy guys, oppressive and intense… more does not always mean better, more can mean bothersome and creepy… ever been to a bad club or bar where you instincively felt you had to get out of there, like some f.u. social dysfunction is always on the brink of happening ? :confused:

P75= Eye contact, mr gentleman
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Dr. tacitus, you think P75 is really good stuff in low doses? What do you think it adds for you at 1-5 mcg? Surely at these doses you mean it is only good for intimate encounters right? Or does it do something useful in say social mixes?

Thanks in advance,
Visionary.

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Indeed the P75 ‘headrush phenomena’ may well be related to the fact that it is Androstenone -like. Maybe tacitus is right and too much P75was used by the above posters…

Jasmin (October 27, 2006):
“High levels of androstenone seem to go hand in hand with either headaches or “feelings of pressure in the head”.”

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Waaay too much… only a pinch, maybe one or two mu at the most… everybody is describing a classic OD

P75= Eye contact, mr gentleman
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OI is right. yesterday I got the phone call, you know the one, “meet me home in 10 minutes for some action”
So I’m at work thinking, what could kick this up a notch.
So I reach in my bag and try to make a rushed decision.
I pull out P75 and put on 30mcg.
On the drive home I start thinking, This is strong, my head feels like the scent is too strong. I open the windows for a mile. I get home and take my lumps in the sack, it seems that P75 does get the wife going during sex. She was overly ambitious about kissing me, especially where I had applied my P75, in the neck/chest area.

Now for the OI, headache, sinus pressure, I’s 28 hours later now and It still feels a little like an icepick going into the corner of my eye and heading back towards my brain. It was painful last night, trying to sleep, I don’t know what kind of headache or headrush other guys got, but mine was mostly on the left side from the bridge of my nose across my eye to my left ear. A little Tylenol/Psuedoephedrine/Advil helped a little, but I’m pretty sure that P75 kicked this one off.

I’m thinking I will dial this down from now on. The 1-2mcg dosage that Tacitus suggests, I think I’ll go with that for this molecule.

My wife was great with it, she didn’t get the headache effects, and I’m sure she must have sucked half of it off me with some wild tongue action. This one is just one that I need to remember to dial it down on.

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I like 2.5mcg sprayed right in the v-neck area for the self-effects alone: P75 is an emboldener at that dose.

I’ve never heard of the oil version. P75 is a long-lasting molecule so I don’t think an oil version is needed. Might be fun to play with though. :slight_smile: