P75 - Probably a better alternative for young adults and A314

So here’s a decent P75 report. Before applying P75, I applied lotion to my neck, face, chest, shoulders, and general upper body. I let it dry for about 15 minutes. Then I applied one spray (12.5 mcg) to my mid-left neck. Wanting to even it out without getting any on my hands, I got a fresh shirt and pushed it around on my neck. However, being clothe, it probably absorbed the mones and halved the actual amount on my body. Shirtless, I proceeded to spray one more. I held the bottle at arm’s length, faced the nozzle towards me, sprayed, then walked into the mist. I feel the tingles all over, so I knew I had coated my entire upper body in it. This was at 12:00 pm. Probably equaled out to one spray of 12.5 mcg P75, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less, but a minimal margin.

For starters, my step father drove me to work (car’s in the shop). Normally he can be a hard ass with me, but he started talking to me about some refunds he had gotten from Best Buy. Apparently if you buy a product for $100, and the price changes within a week, you can go in with your receipt and get the price difference back in cash. I don’t know. But it was almost like he was looking for approval, almost how a child looks for approval from their parents. My area of expertise in my family is tech. I’m the tech guru and the computer genius. It was almost like he was expecting me to say, “Good call, Dad.” Like whoa, weird. Normally he doesn’t give a shit what I think haha. He seemed to just continue about random things… like even asking me where he can buy Proactive. I was like… you don’t even have acne… and you’re 40. Very weird. It seemed like he didn’t know how to control what was going on in his head.

Work was fantastic. Lots of friendly respect hits from management and older people, lots of bro hits from the guys at work I’m already friends with, and a decent handful of “taken off guard” hits from the girls I work with. Management was very open with me, like I was one of them. Joking around, talking to me, etc. It was pretty nice. My friends at work weren’t intimidated or anything in the least bit. They were very “bro-like” to me. Joking around, horseplay, etc. Like actually we never horseplay at work. But I had a few arm punches and bear hugs come my way. Kinda weird, but whatever. Which may hint that already established relationships take P75 nicely. My female co-workers were just extra nice to me. They seemed to have the vibe that they were thinking “I’ve never noticed how mature/manly/etc. he is”. A few girls came in to eat at the restaurant. Nothing too big other than a few DIHLs and IOIs. A table with 2 relatively respectable looking girls that were decently cute were the biggest hits. Their mom was asking me a bunch of questions and the blonde one buts in and says “Mom! Let him do his job!” before we all laughed at it. They watched me everytime I brought out trays to tables. EVERY. TIME. Tables were fairly nice and respectful to me. Very respectful actually. I feel like they almost saw me as management. Luckily, I held myself with charisma and maturity, so it worked well.

At around 4:30, I applied another spray. I have a feeling I was borderline OD. Nothing really changed, but I had a job in the back to do that would take 4 hours to complete. Since me and my co-worker are in the back to do said job, I took my shirt off and kept a slightly tight fitting black tee on. Lots of the dudes were jokingly calling me “Muscles.” or saying “What gym do you go to?” I truthfully couldn’t tell if this was sarcasm, but I know I’m neither lanky nor muscular, so this was just weird and kind of annoying for me. Even one of the manager said “Next time, I’ll buy tickets.” I was like… OK… -_____-

So yeah, P75 really seems that manliness that everyone raves about. I have heard that A314 is iffy with young adults, but I feel P75 is a suitable alternative. The best way to describe what people feel from you is a manly and mature young adult with a fun side. Like not stuck up, but not to be taken lightly either. Really was an awesome experience with this stuff! This will likely be my alternative for A314.

Sounds like you were giving off too much of a masculine vibe. Like, some skinny 20 year old walking around like a tough guy in a wife beater… your friends were probably thinking “wtf” almost like you were trying too hard to be a badass you know?

On the other hand if you are giving off just a bit of a masculine vibe, it will fit in with your personality and body type, and people will more readily accept it and just consider you to be confident, masculine, etc.

But too much and you kind of cross the line into that trying too hard territory which is never good.

We have to work with what we’ve got, and play off it. Sounds like you know you did a bit too much this time. But it sounds like in lower doses P75 works great for you, so keep that in mind.

Ill be getting p75 and a to go of A314 soon. Im 23 so I will post the reactions I get as well. Ive been messing around with my none sweet spot and realized anything more than 1 spray instantly pisses people off, and I also got a few “trying too hard to be a tough guy” type responses… mostly from women which is interesting. The men were much more submissive and willing to accept it. But the girls their claws just came right out and got really pissy. A few huge hits inbetween, but a lot of people really on edge as well.

Interesting point. See the thing is, at 1 regular dose (before the 4:30 PM dose), I was actually paid a half joking/half serious comment about my “strength.” I was lifting a chair one-handed past a bunch of people and some guy said “Damn, dude, you’re strong.” It was one of those half serious, half joking comments. I know this because I wasn’t paying attention to him, bumped into a corner, and almost dropped the chair. He replied “…I shouldn’t have said anything.”

Luckily for me if they weren’t being serious, I know for a fact they weren’t being malicious. It was very jokingly, bro-like. How I would call my best friend a douche bag on his birthday, ya know? That kind of bro-stuff. It came from all the dudes at work too. Not a single girl said anything. So it wasn’t all that bad. But I know with people I don’t know, it would be a complete opposite. Shrimp in a wife beater would definitely be what unknown males would see me as. Luckily I’m 5’10" and my job is basically working out, so I’m not scrawny, but I’m not jacked either. It’s a pleasant state with maybe a bit of muscle wanting.

Thats what Im saying. Your friends arent going to be dicks to you, but at the same time they are going to bust your chops if they feel youre giving off too much of a macho vibe. Its just what guys do.

Like I said it sounds like that extra shot of p75 was just a bit much.

…no homo. But I entirely just checked myself out in the mirror. My arms actually got a bit thicker and more sinewy in the past 3 months… lke surprisingly so. 0_0

Just at the beginning of this year I was skin and bones. I guess that’s what working at a job for 40 hours a week that requires you to run trays of 5-15 lbs. worth of plates constantly does to you. Not to mention I’m the king of dish. Or so I’m called. I carry HUGE stacks of trays from the dish room. The same manager who said next time he’d buy tickets commented that I was carrying more than I probably weighed.

Lol my bad didnt mean to call you scrawny, that wasnt my intent. Just trying to say I think you may have overdid the masculine vibe.

True. It’s just annoying because I didn’t mean to. I have to wear a white, button up, long sleeved shirt. Really hinders my movement, gets dirty super fast with the job I do, and I overheat REALLY fast. So naturally? Take that shit off. -_____- Oh well. I’ll get over it by tomorrow hahaha. :stuck_out_tongue:

Hahhaa no I didn’t get that at all. But I have to agree. Sure, I’ve put on a bit of muscle, but I still think the P75 set them on the “Let’s bust his chops” pounce. And the tight black tee shirt me was instant ammo.

I hear you man. Back when I first starting lifting weights (this was before I ever found pheromones), every time I wore a fitting T shirt, or went to pick something up, or do basically anything that could possibly involve potential strength my friends busted my chops about being a tough guy since I had gotten so muscular so quickly. Kept getting on my case about flexing all the time but when you start getting in shape your muscles are just always kind of popping out so there was nothing I could do about it.

It got real old real quick.

I have actually wondered about P75 being one of the steering molecules in A314 before? To that end, trying a mix of Androsterone (80%), P83, P75 and Androstenone (remaining 20%) was an interesting “educational” experience. :wink:

And a little P75 will ground and round-out IG in an interesting way.

However, in your situation, the size of the dose is something that leaps out at me - and your topup as P75 is a long lasting putative - Try moderating it with a hefty dose of something social. That seems to make it much more usable, or cut back your initial dose a fair bit if you use it standalone.

Interesting report, thanks.

I have to say that the dose also hit me - it seems very high. I believe that most people get good results at 2.5 to 5.0 mcg. Also, as Mobocaster mentioned, P75 is supposed to last a good 6 - 8 hours, although if you get hot at work you may well be diffusing it off more quickly than average.

It would be interesting to try the same experiment again, but at around 5.0mcg, and see what the reactions are.

I appreciate that you are testing P75 on it’s own to understand it’s effects better. Ultimately, I feel that Mobocaster may be correct, that P75 will probably work better at a lower dose and in combination with a social like Honesty or Shine.

Yeah, I’m truly trying to get a grasp on the single molecule in P75. I actually have a new journal dedicated to all this, but I know journals aren’t as popular as this forum and I wanted everyone to see my report and express their opinions. I MAY give IS + P75 or IO + P75 a try, but I really want to see this molecule on its own. I may initially have P75 on, and once I have enough evidence for it as a standalone, I’ll add a social and do my analysis on that as well. I may have to wash off and reapply, but I’ll update everyone.