I’d been interested in the combination of two “perceptic” -mones, P87 which has a mystical, Psi consciousness direction, and P88, which also has a “subtle energy sensitivity” quality… this is the first time I’ve deliberately used both (50 mu ea.) in a solid basic mix of rone, nol, dienone, P74… which to me has a well understood signature… I could clearly pick out an enhanced energy field, tactile to holoistic mind enhancement… hard to describe but you’d know it if you sensed it… an enhanced getting, or picking up on other people… moving elegantly thorough the outer layers and sensing the inner realities of the other person… much remains to be seen with this.
Sort of a subtle subconcious emotional perception booster I persume?
Seems like a good Idea for any bonding mix.
In NLP terms, you’d classify it as “sort by other” … it sort of diminishes the self consciousness aspect, like the ego-ness fades and the sense of other-beingness increases.. it is an oddity, as this happens on a perceptual as well as an cognitive/emotional level. As I was discussing with somebody earlier, it feels almost reptilian, like the cerebellar reptile mind opens up (in a constructive sense)… it has a primal observance or taking-in quality… up close and personal, as in oily skin to skin massage, there was a clear enhancement of “feeling into” communication, like one skin could talk into the other skin… ( this is a YUM point in favor 
)… even today I am subtly buzzed on the aftervapor of the evening before, I feel very perceptive and tapped in to my communicative planes…
Yeah! I think the term we came up with, mister tacitus, is “reptilian autopilot” 
It is rather that… feeling the inner iguana… I dunno if this is a result of supressing something, opening somethings else, a combination of the above, or what… I have been aware of a moderately altered state of perception throughout the day, although nothing dissociative about it, or if so the dissociation is very mild, nor is it particularly “romantic-mamallian-empathic” , it is, however, highly aware (minus the buzz or stimulus of -None and None related pheros), organic, present and on one’s feet in the environment.. so maybe it is favoring the oldest parts of the brain, at least, I’m walking around thinking, hmmm… so maybe this is what an amplified reptilian awareness is like… it did impart a memorable twist on last night’s sexualtions… where (my current way of thinking about it) ego driven background noise, chat chat chat, is competing for neural dominance with more primary, instinctive sensoria and processing, so when some of the ego noise and self blather fades down, a multitude of delicious, low intensity but incredibly sensuous fine notes of the experience are available… the one drawback is that there isn’t the great warmth of a Nol driven limbic mind meld… girl and I were describing our sex experience afterwards as “snake sex”.. which then got me thinking about his whole reptilian mind aspect…
Is the whole ‘reptillian’ feel from P88/87 or both? Earlier it was mentioned that P87 is a perception refiner, and P88 the super strong alpha-nol with very subtle but noticable visual effect. The 88 part makes sense. You seemed to fall into some sort of a social flow state and started noticing more subtle empathetic details. Its the whole brew Im having problem understanding.
I just tried 50mcg each of 87+88 with 2 sprays 104 I already had applied. Very odd, altered state - like an anti-EST in some ways. Yes it’s quiet, objective and aware but not at all humanly empathetic - an unpleasant sensation at this dose.. People on the subway stopped seeming like people. Snipers and presidential bodyguards should use this mix.
I haven’t tried this in an extended one to one interaction. Perhaps P74 will remove the unpleasant edge.
Enhancement of perception intensity extends to taste - my chocolate bar was almost TAF-tasty. The unpleasant effects seem to bed down a bit with time - maybe just the novelty of visiting an odd place for the first time.
Eyup, I spoze were gettin somewheres
Now I’ve advanced to composing my own little pheromonal symphonies, using certain pheros for the major brushstrokes, then adding in relatively minute qualtites of things like P86,87,88… which is a deviation from my normal practice of assembling juices on equal basis, 50 mu of each ingredient, say.
So… so… having symphonized with the large elements of TAA, EST, P74, A-nol, and a whopping base of alpha-rone, a smidge of -dienol, beta-nol, TAC, alpha-dienol… and mere specks of the reptilians… I have to say, it was particularly interesting…
Both eroto-empathetic AND “sniper” clarity… quick witted, the mere dots of the accessory mones, NO TAF by the way, seem to add something very, ummmm… calibrated to the gestalt… like an extra, normally rather reduced side of my awareness/personality was in tight focus…
Yes - tried a messy mix of P85-P88 over my background daily combo (25-50mcg each) with 50mcg TAH to amp up social processing. One is more attuned to fine aspects of subcommunication - you are aware of the the very moment the listener’s state shifts when telling a story.
I wonder how well the contemplative aspects of TAK would blend with the sniper energy of 87+88.
At that dose this mix is definitely too distancing for me to enjoyably wear when out. What is the dosage of a tacitus speck and smidge, I wonder… Also, what is this good for? Can one mellow it sufficiently to use normally or must it be reserved for interviewing people and such?
Whoa! MX101x2, P86x50, P87x50, P88x50, P74,TACx50,TAAx150,TAHx50,A1xlots,Bnolxfair bit,anolxa little. 3 sprays of Ammo (that I progressively tried to heat up with up to 4 sprays total of T1 and T3 without much noticeable impact). Impix3,Aquagenx6drops. Day 2 with ‘are-you-gay’ girl I went home with on Thur.
Unbelievably intense in a strange though not unpleasant way. We met at 5pm, ended up going for a coffee (no particular plans for the evening - I wasn’t going to ask her to spend Sat eve with me so early on). By time we looked up it was 11pm and we went out to look at the eclipse. Went home, neither of us could sleep (physical de-escalation of a kind that has happened before when wearing Impi early on with other girls. shrug.). Talked and talked. 10am went out for breakfast, continued and we parted around 2pm. So umm almost a 24 hour period completely spent in conversation when usually after more than a few hours of that and I am worn out.
Ohh fwiw it was a very attention-drawing mix (101 likely contributed but it was softer and more extended attention than usual for that). Chilled daytime place became fancy but mellow nightspot with a table of 8 elegant and pretty hot girls in front of us. Kind of AI + curiosity + blatantly listening to our conversation from them over the course of a couple of hours. She became uncomfortable with the attention thinking herself under-dressed. Manager of the place came over while she was in the loo saying how great it was to see me and complimenting me on my companion (I know him but he has never done either of these before).
The compulsive-sharing aspect of betanol but not the deepest darkest am I really telling you this. Talking about art, movies, the collective unconscious, upbringing etc. Like weirdly locked in rapport-building mode even at the cost of losing a little attraction. Neither ‘I feel like I have known you for years’ nor ‘I am falling in teen love with you’ but certainly a sense of utter comfort.
Tentatively, I blame some aspect of P86 + the reptilians (with secondary contribution from Androstadienone + betanol) for this. New context - first time I have worn them on a day 2. Anyway, I still find the reptilians mysterious - not quite sure how to characterise their function. Clearly will have to thin down the mix to find out.
Afterthought - with hindsight I went a bit nuts with applying A314 and applied loads and loads (maybe equivalent of 4-5 drops. silly me). So probably triggered the provider circuit, which explains part of it.