Product Name, Scent & Strength:
P87, 12.5mcg; added 12.5mcg 15 mins later; Total 25mcg
Unscented, covered with perfume
Application Dosage & Locations: Both sprays to neck
Environment Tested In: Self @ home office
Self Effects: Whoa… near instant self effects. There was some definite visual effects, a sharpening of the senses, most acutely felt visually. Lots of peripheral stimulation. Seriously increased hearing. I could hear every pop and bubble and fizz in my soda can, and my watch ticking became overly loud. My handwriting suffered - possibly decreased fine motor skills. I was absorbing great amounts of data and information though - almost raw data, raw info. This was true both of sense data (the 5 senses) and information for work. I was prepping for my presentation and was able to whip through creating the whole outline, backed up with documented research, in an afternoon. I was also creatively focused. I followed a logical thought extension to it’s conclusion, then went back and restarted the process. Got some great tangents and additions to my presentation. Normally, I’m sort of a space cadet when it comes to that. I’ll veer from idea to idea and have a hard time coming back to base, so to speak.
There was a definite heaviness to this phero. Time seemed to slow. I was definitely WAY inside myself, looking out at the world. There was a significant distance with this phero. Definitely a mental phero - nothing really social/extroverted about it. A cold phero, clinical. Heavy. But powerful. Very powerful. Calm, rational, objective. What you expect was naturally produced by Severus Snape, or Lucius Malfoy. The Death Eater phero. A very powerful mental effect.
Effects to Others: Not tested socially. Would LOVE to see what happens though. Further testing required.
Duration of Effects: 4 hours. (pretty standard for me)
Did this last the entire four hours? I get this with quite a few of the putatives and experimones, right off the bat, but it usually dissipates within ~15-20 minutes.
Have you tried TAF? Is the focus you saw with this similar to that?
This lasted a long time. The whole slew of effects lasted the duration of 4 hours.
I have extensively tested TAF (in my journal) - this was markedly different than TAF. It was heavier, colder - TAF can intensify and focus, but it’s still social. This didn’t have a social aspect to it. It had a distancing effect. Cold.
I have a feeling this could be awesome for me for times when I need to just hide away in the library and get some reading done… Based on the comment of “decreased fine motor function” I’d better leave it when in the OR though
Yeah… no kidding. My handwriting is bad at the best of times, but this was like trying to write while both drunk and underwater. Though I could see it better. If that makes sense…?? And mentally it wasn’t a drunk or underwater feeling - but the fine motor skills were definitely not normal. Brain stem effect?
No, I wouldn’t think so…I’d think it’s more likely to be affecting cerebellar function and/or act somewhere on the corticospinal projections and pyramidal tract from the primary motor cortex…
It is the coldest pheromone I’ve every messed with. I think it effectively blocks any feeling empathy. Warren calls it a strong empathogen because he can so very easily read people with it. But being coldly analytical and being warmly empathic just don’t jive in my book. And this pheromone gives off the vibe of cold predator to me.
How can you be cool & analytical at the same time as you’re empathetic??? Doesn’t really make sense to me either Diane… Beeing more analytical and thus finding it easier to read people doesn’t equal empathy…
An empathogen is a two way street though…? Are other people feeling connected, or are they able to read you? If not, I dont get the “empathogen” thing…
p87 = the ability to understand others states in a cold observational way without feeling a personal emotional resonance. feels v unpleasant in high doses.
That is exactly what I don’t like about P87 - it blocks the emotional resonance you normally feel with empathy. It is just plain predatory. I really don’t like it.
Well, I think this one might have some survival benefit if you were in a traumatic situation where you had to analyze data coming in very quickly without getting bogged down by that pesky little thing called a conscience.
lol, that sounds like my bf.
i’ve been considering buying this, perhaps it’ll give me a better idea what goes on in his head.
but does it disappate playfulness? because where’s the fun in being a superheroin if you can’t show off a bit?
I can’t speak for anyone else, but for me, this pheromone really negates all warm emotions. So, I couldn’t call it fun under any sense of the word. It is *cold.
im going to help you out a little here, this is a good-sized forum and things can get easily overlooked :o
if you look under members avatars,
you will be able to see when they arrived to the forum.
this doesnt mean they dont have earlier use with pheromones, but just that it is the date they signed up.
i think you were probably joking,
but Diane probably has more experience with the products here than some of the people who make pheromones in a lab!
i would do some reading,kiddo.
you have to try the product before you can recommend them.
I’ll veer from idea to idea and have a hard time coming back to base, so to speak.
Doesn’t really make sense to me either Diane… Beeing more analytical and thus finding it easier to read people doesn’t equal empathy…
