Back in the phero game after a long hiatus, testing and tweaking. Excellent results thus far with three sprays of 1.23A (news at 11). Mourning the disappearance of my beloved MX292.
Anyhoo, I found some bottles of P83, P93, MEO stored away that I never really got around to testing and I’d love some feedback, in plain English ('cause I’m pretty dense), as to what all of the above generally do, both alone and in mixes.
From what I’ve read, 83 amplifies the other mones’ effects and generally disinhibits the other person in the interaction. Is that accurate? Does 83 give off a sexual vibe at all?
Still don’t have a handle on exactly what 93 or MEO-EST do. Could someone enlighten me?
Do some SEARCH yourself, holmes- haha.
Anyways, I haven’t tested meo_est yet.
P93 is caucasian women magnet! You get blatant attraction and openess from white girls. It is not like - none but more of glamorous attraction than sexy attraction. P93 is more like Princess Madeline , graceful yet attractive, while -none is more like Pamela Anderson sexy
P83 causes sexual attraction for me all by itslef. If I use with -none I sometimes overwhelm some females. It seems to draw people in; I haven’t seen a bit of dis-inhibition others talk about yet…
Thanks. CoolKat. I have been searching, but it’s a bit overwhelming - particularly when you have no time.
Interesting about P93. Caucasian magnet… just what the doctor ordered.
P83 seems like good stuff. Velcro effect (even without an afro, which is really cool), erasing of personal boundaries, disinhibition… sounds good to me.
How does P83 differ from something like TUTH? Does it irritate people as easily? That’s the part I’d worry about with 83.
It’s nice to see one of the most astute, well respected members of the community back.
P83 doesn’t actually amplify the other mones, that would be more along the lines of p79. You are right about the dis-inhibiting aspects of it. From what I’ve found it lowers their sexual inhibitions and not so much other aspects. Like P130 lowers their fear factors so they say what ever is on their mind and even if its hurtful. P83 is flirty and fun and sneaks past their defenses. The more refined the more crazy they get in bed. I like it and yeah its very sexual if you work it right. But then so is Ishine.
MEO-EST is a horse hormone and should be used in low quantities. I found it best at around 2.5 mcg. It adds a bit of comfort and well being to the interaction.
Now you know about p93 as per our tele conversation. I’m super glad you are back and excited to read about your results. Holmes you are the man.
But honestly I think some of the reports are hyped up.
Some people here have an obsession with a hair color, it’s kinda scary actually, that they see everything as a result of a particular molecule. P93 does help, but not in the way I think you’re perceiving it. I’ve tested mixes with and without P93 and while there is a difference, its not a gamechanger, that’s my opinion though.
I have a feeling that things get hyped up because it appears as if its getting sold because off that hype:o. It will push another user away from mones because they were led astray thinking mones are magic bullets and whatever you wear you’re going to get laid. Its a shame really, because while P93 serves its purpose, it only has EVER worked in small amounts with steering pheromones for me to attract others.
Otherwise most members report it to actually “push people away.” My personal findings amongst many races and of all “hair color” (which quite frankly is ridiculous with the amount of women who dye their hair) is that it creates a high value, a high status that makes women feel comfortable around. It lulls them into thinking he’s my older brother so I feel safe. This is far-stretch from another over-hyped report of how one guy, regardless of what he uses, again have the women running to him ripping his clothes off. Kind of odd scenario for anyone to be in when spending so much time on a forum. Makes me wonder where they get the time .
The whole idea of it attracting Caucasian women has been researched by the more in-tune members of the community, those willing to push the research rather than uplift themselves as some type of guru. The general consensus is that P93 is a high-value status for anyone, not just guys, and certainly doesn’t just attract white-women. Silly really to even consider just a thing. I’ve done enough research on it to understand that those that did report that it was a good attractant for Caucasian women weren’t actually Caucasian men themselves. In actuality it completely turns the vibe away from attraction when combo’d with other molecules like reported.
I just hope the interested persons who start to use the product have enough personal intelligence to go at it with a clean slate and not look for hyped results. When they don’t happen they come back and report what did happen. I would feel sad that we lost another user based on silliness .
haha - I hope I didn’t send the message that p93 would get girls ripping their clothes I didn’t imply that anywhere
I said it was more of 'GLAMOROUS attraction. I equate it to someone like Princess Madeleine of Sweden. She is not a supermodel, but very attractive because of her being graceful and majestic.
I didn’t say it was like Playboy or Sports-illustrated model hot, which is -none
From my personal experience, white girls show most blatant attraction - nothing sexual but admiration/crush-like effect. I had some ASIAN and black girls repelled by this though.
Guys just do the CoolKat method, spray a buncha mones on and make up reports. Cause you know he is the biggest P Master out there, anything he throws on works wonderfully well with the ladies, ya gotta have the game and swag like CK to have 2900 posts of mind blowing reports, me a med student in a prestigious school, and still have time to save the world.
AMMO + IO + IS.
heh, btw it attracts the blondes, oh and may repel the asians and the blacks. But throw in some P93 and the blondes will really love it, heh
If you learned from yourself, and went through experiences, and saw how bad of an advice the new users get, you’d be mad too.
I like to stir the pot, and I have a big mouth, and I will take a pot shot at you at the expense of making me look like an ass, so that people who have a very impressionable opinion when it comes to mones second guesses the advice from which they receive it from, then it makes my day to know they shouldn’t take just anyones advice as dogma.
Plus I see too many overhyped reports getting repped when true testers out there (won’t mention any names) puts up an honest and solid report, but will fall through the cracks cause of the exaggerated BS that some people put, and if you feel offended by this, you’re probably one of them.
I tried to stay away from it so that there is no animosity in the forums, but the advice newbies are giving newbies are so skewed sometimes, I wonder what kind of hinderance on a person figuring out what mones can do and how they should test will have an effect on their overall experience.
TL;DR
My goal, however brash or harsh, is to make people realize that just because you have “awesome experiences” doesn’t mean they’re always true.
I’m a pretty good looking guy with a good background, I have friends who are up there more than I am in terms of looks and status, and I don’t see them getting the kind of success certain members are.
I call the BS card on those reports when they seem to happen every day. It’s either that or they’re delusional, which I think its more of the latter than the former.
point taken, I do agree that some of the reports I’ve read in my short time here seem so far fetched almost fictional. But I don’t completely discount the fact that some may actually be true.
I’m in a testing phase right now with mones, and so far from the results I’m getting with AMMO and IS, I can see how I can fully take advantage of these products. I’m willing to make myself be the guinea pig to find what works and what doesn’t, for myself however.
It’s been so long since I went out there and just had different va jay jay every week, I got caught with the one-gina flue for 3 years haha. Women…they can get to ya.
As far as your friends go, they could be better looking and have better status. But do they have the confidence to open women and hit a home run? I’m no master or anything, but before this last relationship I was in, I had a diff girl every week. I’m not a 10 nor have lots of money, I’d say i’m an 8. but it was the sheer confidence that brought the women in. I’m sad to say, I lost that confidence during the last girl, but what I am happy to say that it’s coming back.
What I have seen with p93 is mirroring and friendly competition for my attention. Really don’t know about the attraction factor since I’m already a 10 … just kidding.
The more expectations you have, subsconsciously the more you’ll look for them and miss out on other opportunities.
The blatant effects I’ve gotten have been from the UF packs, on a consistent basis. MX301 being second, but it’s a different kind of attraction that doesn’t necessarily hit in your face right away.
All I’m saying for new users is to just wear it like anything else, a nice watch, a cologne, a well tailored shit, and be done with it.
Lemme put it this way, you ever see someone who dresses well, but don’t carry it well, how it just seems he bought all those products and didn’t know how to carry himself or wear it. Well that’s what you will look like if you wear mones with those kinds of expectations, that’s how different perceptions of what they can or can’t do for you will do to you.
It’s a bigger hindrance for new users than it is of any help. All those people want are some notoriety, which is kinda sad actually.
I have been searching, but it’s a bit overwhelming - particularly when you have no time.
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I didn’t imply that anywhere 