Hi SS109,
Yes I changed it to PRE Rev 30 A314. Thanks!
Rev32 is nothing like A314 used to be. If you like Rev32 you would have LOVED Rev29.
I agree with you and wrote about P74 in my entry on 4/23/2014. See below:
I would agree with you… I KNOW you’re one of the best ‘mone’ testers here or anywhere, you’re experience and deep social perceptions come right through.
Toot your horn?! Nah… I would say, you recognize where you are and that’s a healthy and normal thing. Others, such as myself, will recognize that as well, and admire you for it. Keep up the excellent work. 
Since you know ‘Enough’ to know that you will continue to learn more, go murdelize it!
1Alpha
P, I have a question for you regarding a product which some say is supposed to compete with A314 (I follow your reviews on another forum as well). However, these damn PMs dont work, so not sure if you want to discuss on this thread.
Thx.
Well…contrary to popular belief Androtics management does allow some discussion of other Vendors products.
However, you would be better off posting on the other forum and sending me a PM asking me to weigh in on the topic. That way you’ll also get a variety of responses from other members who are also familiar with the product.
This will allow for a longer discussion in a forum that openly accepts product discussion from various vendors.
PS–Thanks for following my reviews. I appreciate it!
VL1 & discovery
Yesterday and today I wore 3 sprays of Xist and 1 drop of Bad Wolf.
I really have to say that nothing matches VL1 solo. It’s not that other stuff is not good. I guess its preference. I like the lovey dovey feeling it gives women.
It takes a while to ramp up. It may be body heat that sends the molecules flying or it may need a high exposure time. I’m not a chemist or biologist.
Just to think that I discovered that this substance has pheromonal properties…It’s mind boggling but it’s not.
When a Astronomer “discovers” a new planet what is he actually doing? The planet was always there. He is just the first person to observe it. He may not even be the first to observe it but he is the first to officially report it.
dis?cov?er
verb \dis-ˈkə-vər\ : to see, find, or become aware of (something) for the first time
: to show the presence of (something hidden or difficult to see) : to make (something) known
: to learn or find out (something surprising or unexpected)
In any case I “discovered” a new pheromone molecule. Bragging…no…I just can’t believe it. I’m still processing the fact that something that I thought might have pheromonal properties actually does. I was thinking about VL1 this morning and how I like wearing it more than any mix currently out there. I like wearing it even more than when I wear Instant Shine. Instant Shine is cool for the celeb vibe but it makes me feel soooooooooo tired afterwards.
Now that I’m convinced that VL1 is a real pheromone the next step is to bottle mix it with enone.
P,
For various reasons I am not a member of that other forum. But since you brought up Bad Wolf in your latest journal post here I thought I would ask how you like the stuff. 
I’m a big LAL fan but BW doesn’t seem to be getting glowing reviews anywhere (it is fairly new), sounds like yet another enone formula. Anything unique about BW? Based on the reviews it seems like it gives off more of an alpha/status vibe vs sexual. Have you noticed an intimidation/respect factor with males, like pre rev30 A314?
Does the addition of XiSt result in something special, as another reviewer claims?
BTW: I read your post about the addition of P96 to BW and how you find that it seems to sharpen rone. Well from my experience with A314rev32 + P96 I find that the later buffers the hell out of the former. Obviously though, BW is a different formula.
Thanks.
I answered you today on the other forum.
How much stuff do I have?
There is so much junk, garbage and poor copies out there. So many pheromone products don’t work, work poorly or are just bad copies of working products.
Having used products from other companies, I have to say that Androtics products are better than the competition.
Instant Openness --When I am wearing this people are chatty. Non stop chatty. Even me.
Instant Shine --I am the rockstar in the room. The only drawback is that after 4 hours I feel like a wet dishrag. I love wearing it for the “look at me” effect. I hate wearing it because of the worn out feeling afterwards.
Turn Up The Heat – enone is always good just before intimacy.
**A314 --The Crown Jewel, the Heavyweight champ, the Creme de la Creme of the pheromone world. Unfortunately, it’s broken right now. However, pre rev 30 A314 did what it said it would do. It was great stuff. **
Come Talk To Me --Don’t know why this is not in production. I liked it.
Instant Honesty --This product does what it says it will do. It made me tell the truth the second day that I wore it.
Instant Jerk --It’s ok. Works ok. It has too much enone for my taste. Does it have P95 in it also?
AMMO --This is a strange one because AMMO never worked for me.
In any case the point is that these products work. There are other companies that produce pheromone based colognes but they just don’t measure up.
Many of them use EST in their products. The EST is used because women talk to other women. A man who smells like a woman is…a woman. So women will talk to a man who has EST on and not be threatened or intimidated. For some men any conversation with a woman is “a hit”. This causes the product with EST to be hyped up by the wearer as a great product. However, instances where men get laid wearing EST are extremely rare.
What prompted this rant is that I was looking on my product shelf for something different to wear and all I saw was garbage. $65 and $75 dollar products that did not work and would never get me laid.
I really like VL1 because it gives women that “crushy” feeling. Since I can’t seem to buy a good working attraction mix the only thing I can do is put one together myself. The ultimate goal is to put together a consistent, working attraction mix. I hate mixing, measuring and pheromone math. I think that VL1 is the first component. The fact that it works well with enone is icing on the cake.
Rather than spend $75 on a product that doesn’t work why not buy some DPG and some pipettes and test different substances for pheromonal properties? I have a mental list of about 5 substances that probably have pheromonal properties. These substances are readily available.
I have a feeling about a substance which may have a huge fallout but it is yet to be tested. I just have to purchase it and test it like I did VL1.
Speaking of which. I am wearing VL1 daily now. I am enjoying it more and more each day.
You mean EST? Looking back on it - every time I got laid wearing mones there was at least some eNone in the mix.
Yes, Himeros
I changed it to read EST. Thanks!
VL33 What a mess.
So I purchased another product that I believe has pheromonal properties.
I’m calling this one VL33. Being an amateur at this mixing thing I had some problems.
The first problem is patience. I put the VL33 in DPG on Thursday. It wasn’t all quite dissolved so I transferred it to another 5ml sprayer. When I tried to spray it nothing came out. I thought that maybe I had a bad sprayer so I transferred it to another 5ml sprayer. Again it wouldn’t spray. I lifted it up to the light and saw particles floating in the DPG.
I got a coffee filter and filtered VL33 but the filter absorbed some of the liquid.
In the end I ended up with about 2.0 ml (out of 5 ml). I would sooooooo prefer just to buy a good working pheromone product. I am not a chemist or a scientist so this stuff (mixing & measuring) is a big pain in the ***.
In any case I tried on 3 sprays on Saturday. It stinks. It smells like A1 & armpit. I cover it with 6 sprays of cologne. One of the self effects is enhanced color vision. Colors seem to be more vivid. After an hour I also had some anxiety. With 3 sprays people on their cell phones seem to be talking extra loudly.
I wore it again on Sunday at 1 spray. Same color enhancement self effect. Women seem to linger or hover around me. It’s too early to say but VL33 may have some alpha effects. I thought it would be a good fallout product but maybe not.
I am wearing VL33 today (with 5 sprays of Prada for men) and just had a long conversation with a nice woman. She was all smiles. Don’t know what to make of VL33 yet.
Mixing and dissolving is a HUGE PITA, indeed. But from my own opinion I prefer it. Don’t get me wrong I love the putatives here, but I’d much rather be able to know.
AD Putative 91=this make me the center of attention because…?
Distilling my own putatives=Molecule 1 makes me giddy and a raging boner. I can then look at that molecule and what it breaks down into and figure out what exactly is acting and what its activating. Much easier to accurately and adequately mix when you have a solid foundation.
Hey Trickster2k5, I agree with you that mixing and dissolving your own molecules allows you to test and discover what the molecule is doing.
I can then assemble a mix that I know works for me. Many vendors slip things like EST and A1 into their mixes. No man is getting laid while wearing a womans (EST) pheromone signature. However, women will talk to them because of the EST. There are a whole bunch of estrogenic pheromones that are “slipped” into pheromone mixes and not listed as ingredients on the label. A1 has a negative effect on the libido of some men.
By mixing things myself I will know exactly what is in my mix and what it does. I am at least a year away as I have many more components to test.
I would rather buy a mix that works over mixing and dissolving my own anyday.
VL33
Yesterday I wore VL33 at 1 spray. I chatted with a girl yesterday but she mentioned that she had a boyfriend. This is a bad/good sign. Reading really deeply into it, she may be paving the way for me. She could be telling me that she has a BF to get it out of the way. I have plenty of boyfriend destroyer PU lines. When I was younger, I swiped many a woman from their boyfriends. I don’t do it anymore on principal (Karma-what goes around comes around). On the other hand, she may not really be interested and made up the BF line or she is telling me she is taken.
I am wearing VL33 today at a half spray. I am really not sure as to what VL33 is doing. After wearing VL33, I am worn out at the end of the day like I am wearing a NOL…so something is going on.
The half spray seems to be more people friendly. VL33 seems to be a bit Alpha. It’s not what I was looking for. I have a feeling that a half spray may still be too much. I don’t see any fallout effects. Then again sometimes a putative has to be combined with something else to awaken it’s properties.
I may shelve this one and move on.
VL1 & VL33 & dosing
I’m pretty sure that I’m wearing too much VL33. I feel it instinctively. I think that I should try 1 drop one 5ml is equal to about 5.5 drops according on a post on this site.
Something is going on with VL33. Interesting that I hit the dosage of VL1 on the third try. I’m not even sure that the dose I am using is the best dose. But it works. The difficult part of testing a new molecule is finding the dosage. You have to be a keen observer of humans to discern the change in behavior that a pheromone may be causing.
The possible dosage window on any molecule is from .025 mcg’s and up. Another problem with dosing is that some (most, all?) molecules change their attributes as you go higher or lower in doses. A good example is enone. At 1-3 mcg’s it is just a flavoring to the mix. In this range it is acceptable to men and women. At 5-8 mcg’s It’s pushing the tolerance limit for men and hits the sweet spot for women. At 10-15 mcg’s enone signals threat/competition to other men and younger women find this dosage to be overwhelming. At 20-30 mcg’s enone is unbearable to all including the user/wearer.
VL1 dosing
Right now I am wearing a high level of mcg’s of VL1 but the dose seems to work. I am wearing my usual (3 sprays of VL1). Love it!
VL33 dosing
A high level dose of VL33 is working but I will bring it down to 1/5th of what I am wearing and test it again. It seems to be too much at the current dose. I think it will act different at a much, much lower dose. Will it be the fallout molecule I thought it would be. Probably not. Then again I could be wearing waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too much.
I’ve run out of DPG. I think I have enough for 1 more test bottle.
VL1+ XiSt
Yesterday I wore my sweet spot dosage of VL1 with 2 sprays of XiSt. I have not reviewed XiSt yet and I don’t think that I will.
I talked to about 6 or 7 women yesterday. 3 of them were African American.
The 3 African American women did not respond at all or better yet they were cold to the combo.
Here’s the thing, VL1 is a universally accepted molecule. It affects Black, White and Hispanic women the same. It makes them feel “lovey dovey”. That’s probably the best way to describe VL1.
XiSt (to me) seems to do a few things. XiSt has some attention grabbing properties, XiSt has enone and something else…I think that there is some P83 in XiSt. I say that because African American women from my tests don’t respond well to P83 (see my extensive notes on this in this journal). Knowing the other mixes that this Vendor makes (the ICM series), I wouldn’t be surprised is there was a little bit of P93 in there also.
Neverthless VL1 + XiSt was a hit today with the Hispanic and Caucasian women that I spoke to.
VL1 works really well with enone. There is definitely a synergy there between VL1 and enone.
Today I am wearing 3 sprays of VL1. It is so work friendly. It does not offend the men and the women like (love?) it…and VL1 doesn’t stink like other molecules so it is easily covered.
Well, on Friday I tried out 3 sprays of VL1 & 15 mcg’s of enone. Usually 10mcg’s or more stuns younger women as they do not know how to react to such a large amount of enone.
However, it seems that VL1 helps with that and makes the enone more palpable for younger women. It is so much like A1. It seems to buffer enone very well.
This weekend I tried also to go up to 4 sprays of VL1 & 20 mcg’s of enone but it was too much. Either too much VL1 or too much enone or too much of both. A good future test would be to leave the VL1 at 3 sprays and go up to 20 mcg’s of enone.
I’ve said it before but VL1 is the best single molecule I’ve ever worn. I have not tested it yet at the lower mcg levels yet. I won’t even list here how many mcg’s I’m wearing of VL1 but it works.
VL1 may be one og those pheromones that changes it’s properties at lower levels. Who knows? It could be even better at lower mcg’s.
I used the last of my DPG on 2 new batches. The first is VL1 + VL33 (1.0 ml VL1+1 spray of VL33+4.0 ml of DPG). The second is dissolving VL45 in 5.0 ml of DPG.
Back to testing
I’ve just about wrapped up testing pheromone formulas for another vendor. So cool that all that reading and studying is kinda paying off. I’m still learning about this new science like everyone else but it’s way cool that a vendor trusts my opinion. I did show off some of my pheromone knowledge. Due to my exposure & testing of several single molecules I can detect them when they are in formulas.
I’ve only been seriously studying pheromones for about 4 years and sometimes I feel like I haven’t even scratched the surface of the science.
I’m testing a new molecule today VL45. I’ve shelved VL33 for now. VL45 was measured at about 1.0 ml and dissolved in 4.0 ml of 151 rum (no more dpg). After filtering I was down to a little less than 4 ml of liquid. I added 1.0 ml of cologne.
I’m getting some attraction hits (2 sprays of VL45) but well I dunno. It’s hard to test your own stuff. You want it to succeed and your mind tries to play tricks on you. This is why I observe and re-observe and contemplate and study.
The trick is to get consistent results. Consistent results means something is going on. Imagined results mean nothing.
I’ve never really studied about **Nikola Tesla. I’d heard his understanding of electricity was phenomenal but I never bothered to read up on him until today.
**Wow, Tesla was a mega genius. He had an eidetic memory. He was so underestimated in his time. If he was allowed to complete his Wardenclyffe project who knows where the world would be today.
VL45:
3 sprays of VL45 today. People are questioning what I say as the truth. It’s strange. It’s as if they don’t trust what I say. It happened with everyone I spoke to today.
I don’t think I need to test VL45 anymore for right now. I’m already ready to move on. Maybe this has some use but I have so many other molecules to test that I’m just going to stop here with VL45.
VL90:
Like VL45 this has been dissolving in 151 rum for about 4 weeks. It’s kind of funny but I did discover VL1 by dissolving it in 151 rum. Who needs DPG…lol. Maybe I’ll break down and buy some. Or maybe I’ll just look for some Everclear.
Nikola Tesla had about three hundred patents for his inventions. Let’s see how many new molecules I can discover this year.
VL90
I’m wearing VL90 today. this batch was prepared like VL45. VL90 was measured at about 1.0 ml and dissolved in 4.0 ml of 151 rum. After filtering I was down to a little less than 4 ml of liquid. To that I added 1.0 ml of cologne.
VL90 is a putative that I suspect has Fallout effects. I am wearing 2 sprays today. I’m already getting crazy results.
When testing I am constantly asking myself “Is this normal behavior (for the target)?”
VL90
I did not enter any details on Thursdays test with 2 sprays of VL90 and now looking back at my notes my entry just says “I’m already getting crazy results.” That doesn’t do me any good…lol
Today I am wearing 3 sprays of VL90.
I don’t think that fallout is caused by a high status signature. If fallout is caused by a high status signature then other Alpha products like Wolf, Corpo and Ascend would produce fallout and they don’t.
So I believe that fallout is caused by a particular molecule.