Hey all- trying to devise a plan to break out of the dreaded “LJBF” zone.. I read a few seduction books like “The Game” and I really have learned a few things. Getting with women isn’t a problem really but I am trying to get this really good friend of mine (5+ years) as my “girlfriend”. I have read a few write ups and posts on attraction forums and hopefully I can use pheromones to my benefit along with my “game”… any suggestions on some good pheromones for trying to wifey up this good friend of mine into a long term sexual relationship? Any specific phero combos? Anyone use similar concepts of pheros + game to close on a good friend?
sorry I just wanted to clear it up but pretty much i summed up our relationship below:
Pretty much a while back when I was 16 I met a girl (she was my bosses daughter) and we have been pretty much inseparable since. Way back at that age I had no game, no good looks and pretty much nothing appealing at all. I am now turning 21 years in in March and still to this day me and this girl hang out every possible opportunity we get. When I was 16 I was dumb and made the mistake of telling her via text that I liked her and obviously I crashed and burned if I am writing this today. Whatever shit went on I was still a bitch up until recently and have kinda had oneitis since and now am on a mission to resolve it. Her whole family loves me and she like always mentions how much she loves me and considers me a good friend (idk I am confused LOL).. more recently I have started becoming a bit more cocky/confident and using some kino and stuff and it has yielded some good results and she usually gives kino back and some serious IOI with the whole eye contact situation. We always end up at bars/clubs/out eating together almost every damn day that she’s home from school and its kinda pathetic that I never hook up with her. All of our friends assume she is my friend who I am fucking based on my facebook pictures of us and how often we hang out and everyone always says there is a little vibe going on. How should I approach this really good family friend who I obviously like a lot.. more recently she has been touching me/giving me IOIs with eye contact etc always doing everything together on weekends. Should I simply just go for a kiss when I am out with her at a bar or club or should I kinda just explain everything to her and then go for it? I am thinking just going for it and seeing what happens.. you should be aware that last summer i brought it up to her friend that I liked her and her friend simply told me that “she valued our friendship to much for it to be potentially be ruined”.. Help me how should I break out of this!? I need a mentor!! The story is much longer and has alot more detail to it but I am trying to compress this.
Thanks Guys.. overall just tryna find a good phero combo that can possibly make this hook up possible!
Get some AMMO. Some girls I just see as “companions” and “friends” have been showing much IOI’s lately. I wasn’t trying to attact them specifically, but somehow AMMO got to them… I recommend 2 to 3 sprays
A314 and Instant Honesty are also some products to consider. As long as you’re congruent with the pheros there’s a good chance you should stay out of the friend zone. A314 is kinda like my anti-friend zone phero because it raises your value so that girls will think “potential mate”.
Mixed with Instant Honesty it will help the two of you bond even more and may even encourage the “fallout effect”.
K-Train- We have been reallllly good friends for 5+ years we do everything together but more recently I stopped being an AFC and started getting some positive IOIs such as touching/eye contact etc.. lets hope these pheros when she comes back home from school I could combine it with my game again and it will help me kiss close her.
Curious, do you dance with her in the clubs? I would think that might be the time during a slow dance; some sweet talk and tell her she looks really beautiful tonight… etc…then try to sneak a kiss during some good soft eye contact and see what happens.
Yes, we always dance at clubs (Spanish music, grindining), holding her hand while dancing .. hopefully with the pheros it would help out. Any ideas reddog?
Currently new to this world, always been a skeptic but have recently decided to do some more research. Going to order some products at some point this week. She is 20 turning 21 soon.
Yeah I had this problem, you just have to man up and go for the kiss really, pick a good time, worst that happens is you get slapped or a wtf are you doing if she doesn’t get into it I’d personally just blame being too drunk though
Believe me though thats far far FAR less not as bad than the alternative which is ultimately a complete burn out of the romantic friendship
Oh and as for friendship breakers, yeah A314 is the go, gives you value
Sexual pheromones seem to work better for new girls or girls that already see you that way
Of course I’m completely projecting and I apologize, these are just my experiences
yeah.. romantic friendships suck. i will give a314 a shot and see what happens.. hopefully it can kinda tip the scale a bit andd work in my favor i will keep you all posted! anyone else feel free to chime in it will be much appreciated!!!
stop hanging out woth her for alittle bit… I kno it seems bad but true me it will work after the short time of not hanging out go back an than do what you have to
