also, since jfg and A are both asian, this is prime testing for mx200. i’ve missed that for a while. 
also in the testing lineup is p96, and i’d like to get in some tests with one of the mx3XX i have.
jay,
what dosage do you like for P96, as a base product?
I’ve been using 60mcg’s but I haven’t really noticed that big of a difference between 30 and 60. Any thoughts?
historically, my sweet spot was 2s of 25mcg, so 50mcg. as p96 gradually got rarer, i decided to cut it down to 1.5s (~37.5mcg) or even 1s.
i feel that anything over 50mcg garners diminishing returns and is mostly a waste of pheros, and i would rather skip the half spray and go with one full spray, so if i had to pick a range now (haven’t started retesting yet), i’d say a lower bound is 25mcg, a high bound is 50mcg, and a cost-efficient and high-result happy medium is 30-37.5mcg.
Yeah I think that 60mcgs is too much. I saw that it came off the store, I got it at 30mcgs/spray and I’m about to do some mixes centered on P96
the “hurry someone’s coming” p96 test
1s p96 25mcg neck
i had just gotten home from the gym when i get a call from jfg. she’s in the car with girl A. she tells me that A left a jewelry piece in my bathroom the other night - sure enough, a cocktail ring (larger than normal) was next to the sink, probably taken off before washing her hands. they were in the neighborhood and asked if they could stop by to pick it up. since i don’t technically know girl A “yet” and i don’t know when i’ll see jfg next (or when she’ll see A) i figured it was the most convenient for them to come get it, even in my disheveled post-gym state.
i quickly washed my face, ran a washcloth around my body, and changed my shirt. i decided against cologne because that would’ve been too obvious - “oh, you freshened up for us?” technically yes, but i didn’t want to be too forward. then i looked at my pheros. game? too strong. akuto? too classy for just coming out of the gym. neroli? meh, could’ve but it’s also pretty fragrance-y. that left only grapefruit, and my p96 is in grapefruit. grapefruit is also a bit strong but doesn’t have the cologne qualities as the other scents so it’s not terribly obvious.
1s and away i went. they arrived a few minutes later. A and jfg were both at the door (instead of just A running in to grab the ring) so i assumed they wanted to hang out for a bit. they sat at the table and i stood roughly between them with my hand on A’s chair. jfg said they were at the mall by my place and wanted to rest a bit before driving back to her part of town; she and A live near each other.
hit #1: smoothness. if it wasn’t for the unique grapefruit scent i would’ve thought i grabbed p86 by accident. everything was smooth. the conversation flowed, nobody was tense, the girls were tired but didn’t really show it, and i wasn’t too worried about being a sweaty slopball in front of two girls. i think this was a hit for everyone.
hit #2: slight attraction from A. i chose to put my hand on the back of her chair to try to get this response. she’s cute, i dig her, she seems to dig me, and jfg is just friends so i figured whenever she’s around, i’ll give it a shot. jfg’s chair is facing diagonal to the table and she’s facing the same direction as the chair. A’s chair was facing the table directly but she turned it diagonal after i put my hand on it. i’m there in between the two chairs. in the middle of the conversation, A rotates her whole body so she’s facing jfg, and her chair is in the same spot. by doing so, her knee and calves kinda touch my legs.
as with most things, if something random touches your leg, you want to look down and see what it is. i saw that it was her knee and calves and i was honestly taken aback. sure, i was standing pretty close to A already, but to have her turn and instigate a touch, especially with something as sexual as her legs… 
in hindsight, this was a pretty clever opening move by A. if i moved away, she could’ve played it off like she was just facing me and jfg for easier conversation. if i stayed in place like i did, then she and i both know that we’re comfortable with “accidental” touching like that. jfg saw where my glance was after her legs touched mine so she probably knew what was going on; i’m sure they had their own girly giggle discussion fest in the ride home.
hit #3: technically it’s grouped in with hit 2 but i’ll separate it for thought processing. after A turned in her chair, i kept my body and hand where they were until they got up and left. as soon as i closed the door, it hit me: with my hand where it was, and with A’s body where it was, it was like i had my arm around her. hard to picture as i describe the situation only in words, but if you think about it, standing by a chair with your hand on the back, and a girl sitting on the edge of the seat facing towards you and with her legs touching yours, it’s pretty close. the chairs i have are medium-backed so as i sit now, the top of the back reaches my just above my chest. any higher and it really would’ve been like i had my arm around A.
hit #4?: comfortable slip of the tongue. jfg and A call each other “darling”, “honey”, etc a lot. not sexual, but more in a “girlfriend” way. the first time i heard it between them was when they came over and jfg said to A, “oh babe, cute toenails” (they were pedicured earlier that day, as i found out) now that i look back, jfg does this with a few other girls too. anyway, we’re talking about a nice bar in town that makes drinks with their house-infused fruit vodka. really good drinks, really good custom vodka. i joked and said that next time we go, i’ll just order straight custom vodka, dump it into a flask, and infuse my own vodka until it tastes the same. A kindasorta nudges my leg with hers, which is i guess a variant of jfg’s playful slap, and says “honey, you know you can’t do that [walk out of a bar with vodka].” in my brain’s state of nonprocessing, i thought she was talking to jfg. then i realized that i was the last person to speak, so she was talking to me.
it’s a questionable hit because i’m not sure what prompted it. to date, i’ve only heard jfg and A use honey/babe/darling/etc around each other and other girls. A has never used that with me. i’ve never even had a girlfriend call me “honey” before. nonetheless, A let it fly in the middle of a conversation. is that how she normally talks? maybe. is it because she’s attracted to me? maybe. is it because everything is going smoothly? maybe.
let’s read on.
conclusion
as i write this report, all the good memories of p96 flood back to me. there’s been a lot of recent commotion about p96 and i’m excited to resume testing so that i can contribute my share.
p96 does lead to attraction, yes, but i see it as a 3-step process.
- p96 first leads to being comfortable. this accounts for the smoothness; one might even call it being relaxed. when you wear it, you’re comfortable, and the people around you are comfortable.
- being comfortable leads to creating a bond. you don’t bond with strangers. you don’t bond with that guy in class who always looks like he’s going to punch something. you bond with someone when you’re comfortable, when you’re both comfortable. that’s how relationships start, that’s how good friends are formed, that’s the basis for a lot of things. this might’ve been where “honey” came from. perhaps A felt close enough to me to use “honey” in a natural sense.
- finally, having a comfortable bond opens the door to many things. throw in a social and you’ll get deep and honest (or really open) conversation. throw in status and you’ll get high respect. in tonight’s case, i didn’t throw anything in, but the residual attraction from our flirting the other night took its course. i think this is what allowed A to swing over and touch my leg with hers. casual attraction, but attraction.
seems 25mcg works well for me. 50mcg i know for sure works well, but if i can reduce dosage, it’ll help extend the life of my p96.
p96 does it again. 
headed to a wine tasting with jfg. she knows nothing about wines, and i know a bit, so she asked me to accompany her. there’s a possibility of seeing girl A so i have to cover all my bases. sheesh, these girls aren’t making it easy on me.
tonight’s mix:
1s sm
1-1.5s p96 25-37.5mcg
1d a314 r24 p90e
possible ih or ishine
it confounds sm and p96 testing a bit but as it’s a relatively formal event, i think the a314 will flow well.
report probably tomorrow after work.
in short, i know what A’s bed looks like (but not how it feels; let’s take it easy here ) because as they usually do, pheros came out to surprise me.
final mix for last night:
1s sm neck
1s p96 25mcg neck
.5s p96 12.5mcg split forearms (i found out the wine tasting wasn’t terribly formal so i wore a long sleeved shirt with the sleeves rolled up nicely)
1d a314 r24 p90e
creed aventus cover
lots of hits to cover so i’ll just skim through the story parts.
pick jfg up and start the 20 minute drive to the restaurant. casual chatting all the way.
hit #1: jfg picked up my ipod and started changing songs. this was a bit out of place since i keep it on shuffle and she’s always been a fan of the songs. i guess last night she really wanted to hear specific songs at specific times. the ipod is in my center console where i usually rest my arm while driving. she was resting her elbow on the other side and when she wanted to grab the ipod, she would rotate her arm so that it was parallel to and touching mine, then brush my hand as she selected songs. unusually high amount of kino.
overall phero hit: we had a very deep conversation about past relationships and other related topics. i think my long term use of pheros helped her feel like she could trust me and really open to me, and the addition of a314 last night put that over the top. genuine conversation, really nice.
we get to the restaurant. the wine tasting was set up so that you sit at a table with a few other people and different wines are brought to you. lo and behold we see two people we mutually met from earlier in the summer. we all sit together at the table.
hit #2: high respect and status. the waiter came around to take orders from a menu of complimentary accompaniments (cheese, fruit, etc) and everyone looked to me to order. while we were tasting, everyone (jfg included) asked about me, what i was up to, current social life, basically really wanted to hear what i had to say.
the wine tasting wraps up and jfg and i part ways with the other guys. our next stop was one of the local “thursday night” bars. on the way there jfg got a text from A that she was planning on going there too. great, i thought, more testing for me. (i would later get more than i bargained for) i only hoped my mix hadn’t worn off yet.
the bulk of my hits from this mix are with A so first a little backstory and then hits in chronological bullet form.
backstory: as a recap, the first time i met A was right before going to a house party with her. something that wasn’t mentioned in that report was that when we walked in to the house party, a guy came up to her and immediately started hitting on her. all night this guy would just follow her around except for when she was talking to me. i had a couple of chats with my roommate and jfg and we figured he thought he was cool for hitting on the girl that i brought. no big deal; i had no reason to get mad because i had only known A for about an hour longer than that guy. let’s call him “G” for this report.
hits:
- what are the chances? A walks over to where jfg and i are standing and she has G in tow. immediately i give G a big smile and shake his hand firmly. i found out later that this elevated my respect level greatly in the eyes of A. she knew that everyone thought it was weird G hit on her immediately at the party, even after a few rejections. further, a communication break somewhere resulted in her thinking i wasn’t going to be at the bar, so she brought G. she had seen me and jfg standing and actually circled the bar a few times deciding whether or not she should bring G over, assuming that i didn’t like him (technically i’m not a fan of him, but whatever). we chatted late into the night as you’ll see in later hits and she told me that she thought it was very “better man” of me to make the first move and properly introduce myself to G, and put whatever differences we had aside for the sake of having a good time at the bar.
- not really a hit but A went to hug jfg as i was shaking hands with G, and when all was done and we took to our barstools, i ended up between A and G and nobody really thought to move. i had the drink menu so they both leaned in to look at it. A was pretty darn close. i started talking with my hands a lot to spread the mix - i was determined to get it to her one way or another.
- drinks come and we’re all chatting when i notice A is just kinda staring at me. i turn to her and she kinda raises her arms (as if she wanted a hug) then quickly drops them and says “well… can i get a hello?” without hesitating, i face her and give her a big hug, making sure to raise my head slightly so she could get some of the mix on my neck, and say “hello!” out loud. as i hug her, i whisper “it’s good to see you again” in her ear, out of G’s earshot. when we both pulled back, she had the biggest smile on her face. her hand also stayed on my side just a little too long…
- …so long, in fact, that i excused myself to the restroom knowing full well they would do a two-step shuffle and switch seats to be next to each other. all the better - she brought G and it’s only fair that they hang out without my interference. i had made my move and the ball was in A’s court now.
- with the presence of another girl, and alcohol, jfg gets a little more flirty with me. i chose to stand when i got back from the restroom so i could maneuver between jfg and A. as i talked to jfg, i would keep my hand on her lower back. she didn’t mind at all. also, her playful slaps weren’t aimed at my arm like usual but rather at my thigh.
- i started kino with A slowly by leaning towards her while i talked in her ear. next step was a light touch-and-go on her lower back while talking, and after no negative reaction to any of that, i ended up just keeping my hand on her lower back (same as jfg) while i talked to her. a bit of a good reaction to this - she would also lean back into me to hear me. i’m getting better at this kino stuff.
- when jfg and A took restroom breaks together, i would casually bond with G. more status points in A’s eyes. in getting to know him he’s not a bad guy, just rather cocky and forward with hitting on girls. to each his own, and A hadn’t left him yet, so he must’ve been doing ok.
- had a side discussion with A about me and jfg. she thought that we were an item. i said no, we started out as friends and that’s all we are. this was more of a confirmation for A to proceed with flirting. right about at this time was when she kinda gave up on G too.
- a bar table opened up so we headed over to grab it. jfg was busy texting one of the guys she’s interested in so she was pretty much out of the conversation. G grabs the stool nearest the wall, A next to him, me kinda at the corner of the table, jfg at the other corner. i swiveled my bar stool to face A and i rested my feet on her stool’s footrest. quickly our legs found each other, and they stayed there a good while. at one point A’s legs were crossed and i had my foot in the little space between her legs (hard to explain) and our legs touched like that. very sexual.
last stop of the night was “home.” jfg and A live in apartment complexes about 5 minutes away, walking. it was assumed that i would drop jfg off and G would take A and try his chances. on the way home, jfg gets a call from a friend who had just moved into the same complex as her, but a different building. he was doing a little welcome party and invited her. i said i could drop her off there and hang out for a bit. she called A and soon we were all headed there.
at the party, there’s a bunch of people jfg hadn’t seen in a long time. she gets riled up to see everyone and of course, everyone wants to drink with her like old times so she gets pretty drunk pretty fast. in the span of no more than 20 minutes, she went from being slightly tipsy to stumbling all over. i got to know her friend who was hosting the party and he reassured me that he and all of jfg’s friends that were there would take care of her if she needed to crash. to no surprise, she passed out and i made sure she was comfy on a spare bed. then i turned my attention to A.
the hits resume.
- while i’m taking care of jfg, A tells me that she is going home with G. (at least that’s what i heard, and you’ll see in a second that’s not what she said) she tells me to put her number in my phone so that in case she forgets the apartment number or building, she can call me and i’ll direct her back to the party. i thought, “ok, but you’re just going home with G - why do you need to come back?” i put her number in my phone without saying anything. i consider this a relative hit because a number was given/offered to me.
- jfg is mumbling in her drunken sleep and i’m just standing around making sure she’s ok when i get a call from A, not even a minute after she left. i pick up and she asks “hey, is it apt # 121 or 122?” in this particular building, odd numbers were on one side and evens on the other. i tell her to hang on as i go outside and try to find her. we both find each other and walk back to the party. G wasn’t with her so i joke and say “wow, that was quick.” (as in she and him already got it on and now she’s coming back in under two minutes) she laughs, playfully slaps me, and tells me that she just walked G to his car - originally, before she left, she had actually said that she was “making” G go home (not “taking” him home as i had thought she said). phone number obtained and clear sailing for the rest of the night, so it was game on.
- A sits by jfg and smooths her clothes and collects her purse and phone while she sleeps. she kept saying to me “oh my goodness, i’ve never seen her like this, is she going to be ok?, is she ok sleeping here? etc” i give her reassuring answers and out of nowhere, like a force that came over me, i just place my hand on her shoulder and gently squeeze/massage as i stand behind her. she responds very positively by resting her body against my leg/thigh, and i’m just there massaging away like an idiot.
- the rest of the party found out that i can make some good drinks so they asked me to come over and teach them some drinks. as i’m “tending bar” and A is sitting with jfg, we flirt through text for a while. every time i looked at her, she had a naughty grin on her face.
A and i were a little too sober for the party so after a while we decided to leave. my car was parked right in front and it would’ve been an ultra short drive but since the ball was in my court now, i said “hey, it’s a nice night - how about i walk you back to your place?” A said sure; i think she was already expecting to walk with me.
the hits keep on keeping on…
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lots of non-accidental bumping and touching on the walk back
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good bonding too
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got invited to go up and check out her place
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interesting because this is farther than G got.
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talked until the wee hours of the morning about everything. she really wanted me to stay over (“it’s so late, are you sure you want to drive back now?”) but i didn’t push it. i figured things would come along in due time.
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she walked me out of her complex to the parking lot. i slowed a little behind her as she was describing how to get back on the main road. as soon as she stopped in front of my car and turned around to face me, i already had my arms outstretched and gave her a tight hug by putting my arms around her shoulders (as opposed to on her waist) in more of a “protective” or “caring” gesture vs. slightly sexual with hands on the waist. she was pleasantly taken by surprise and wrapped her arms around my waist. she was a bit flustered as we said our goodbyes.
editor’s note: i had this report ready to post on friday 10.1 around 8p. right around that time, A texts me and asks me what i’m doing for the night. i had nothing planned and turns out she had nothing planned either. we text for a bit in a roundabout manner until it was pretty obvious that we should hang out. we made plans for later that night.
not even 24 hours after dropping a smooth mix on her, i had a chance to try a mix solo with her. since we made plans late, everywhere was either closing or already doing last call. i planned to walk around a strip of bars and people watch, or drive around the city and chat in the car. both of those situations meant close constant contact with a mix. i had to plan carefully.
the mix for friday night
1s sm split hands
1s p96 25mcg neck
1s ih split forearms
1d a314 r24 p90e neck
creed aventus cover
same mix as thursday night but a lower dose of p96 and addition of ih to help my cause.
the big differences here are twofold: one, we’re alone. she doesn’t have to worry about G, i don’t have to “feel bad” for hitting on jfg’s friend in front of her. two, there’s less alcohol. it’s easy to get plastered and go about it that way, but i think then you lose some of the major elements of pheros. this was a good chance to test a formidable mix in an honest situation.
contrary to the report above, this one will read like a story since it’s fresher in mind and i want to get all the details out.
my A+ night with A
waited for her in the front lawn of her complex and we walked to my car together. after a few steps she said “wow, you smell really good.” she carries herself well and i feel the classy creed scent is a big boost for the pheros. i play off the compliment and we drive away.
first planned stop was a small bar that i know of which has cozy lounge seating. i figured we could grab a drink and sit around, get to know each other. i drive by and it’s closed for the night. luckily, it’s attached to a strip of bigger bars that’s attached to a small shopping center of boutique stores. we head over there to go walk around.
as we walk, window shop, and people watch, i notice all the classic signs of ioi. hair flips, lowered eyes, body language, and the ever-popular bumping into me. i take this one step further by telling her that every time she bumped into me, i would grab her nose - blatant attempt to get sm in front of her, and it worked.
editor’s note: as i was spreading the mix, i also caught some scents. snoopy’s mix, even though it comes in neroli, has a green mossy scent. this is the same scent i smell in mx315, which was a free gift from i think the raw power test pack. assuming it’s not a dud (it didn’t work much for me) i think i discern androstenone as green and mossy.
next thing i notice is that the conversation gets very sexual. this is surprising because as you’ll find out in a later paragraph, apparently A is not very sexual at all. regardless, and not knowing this yet, we talked about sexual positions, fantasies, attraction factors, etc. it might’ve been the androstenone or flirting or both that led to such a sexually-charged conversation.
people were coming out of the bars and we wanted to beat traffic so we took off. from that group of bars, it’s a 10 minute drive to my house. i turned it into 25 by taking the long way. during this time, we had a deep conversation about getting to know each other (with sexual stuff mixed in). this is the conversation i anticipated us having at the bar with lounge seats. i think it worked out better in the car because the music volume could be controlled and we were cozy sitting next to each other, the hum of the engine and bright night stars being our background entertainment.
in this conversation, i learned that A is not actually a highly sexual girl. i believe her, but i still need to confirm this with her friends. according to her, she’s had one sexual partner. they were each other’s first and apparently it was really bad, and she never really had the urge to try it again. on top of that, she believes that people should really get to know each other before having sex; specifically, not until at least the 2nd month of dating, she said. before leaving for the night i had packed protection in my jacket pocket because it was uncertain where i would end up. after hearing this, i knew i could return it to my drawer.
shocker, right? here’s this girl holding a conversation with me about all sorts of sexual things and yet she’s not done any of it. she says she learns through stories with girlfriends, talking to guy friends, and reading whatever cosmo publishes. she’s also run the bases (kissing, touching, oral sex) but has never hit the proverbial “home run.” i respect that. i also had to change my game plan for the night. usually when two people make plans late at night, it’s for one main reason. tonight was going to be different. i had to really call on p96 to work the comfort angle, not necessarily because i was hoping to get lucky, but because i wanted to establish a good baseline relationship.
i pour a light drink for us when we got back, and throughout the night we just had one more. again as i anticipated, the night was light on alcohol. she’s seen my kitchen and living room; tonight she wanted a tour of the rest of the place. i read between the lines and figured she wanted to see where she was sleeping tonight (my room) and sure enough, that’s what she wanted. she paid no attention to me showing off my roommate’s room. as soon as i turned on the lights to my room, she walked in and started looking around.
i was a little unsure about how to proceed at this point. if she wasn’t sexually reserved, i might’ve joked with something like “and this is where you can crash tonight, with me.” that might’ve been ok with her but i didn’t want to be too forward and seem like a horndog. all through the night i had second guesses about everything - kino, kiss her or not, cuddle or not - and i always played it safe; i think while it wasn’t all that much fun, it did build bridges to future meetings.
typical chatting over drinks. the first time we sat down, i sat in the middle of the couch and she leaned up against the armrest. after getting up and making drinks again, she sat in her old spot and i sat close to her with our arms and legs slightly touching. she sat up straight this time and near the end of her drink, leaned slightly in towards me. then came the big fork in the road. our eyes got droopy, conversation slowed, and it was time for bed.
i first said that she should get to bed and she replied that i probably wasn’t good to drive. i wasn’t, but i think she needed confirmation that she was staying over instead of just assuming. i said i wasn’t planning on driving and that she could crash at my place. fork #1 maneuvered. second fork was where: couch or my bed? she originally didn’t really want to move from the couch so i went to grab a pillow and blanket (again, playing it safe). as i returned, she was standing and asking if i had an extra blanket. i think she was hoping i didn’t, and that the only choice was to share a bed and blanket. i brought it out and she got cozy, and then came the third fork: actually let her sleep out on the couch when there’s a perfectly good bed and bed partner waiting, or try to convince her to share a bed with me without seeming creepy? this is where i took my biggest chance and didn’t play it safe. i could’ve easily just said “ok, good night” and walked away, but i stayed and hung around to talk more. i don’t think i could’ve lived it down if a pretty girl came over willingly to hang out with me and she ended up on the couch while i ended up alone in bed.
she was also in no mood to be on the couch. she kept alluding to how comfortable my bed looks, how it might get cold alone outside in the living room, etc. long story short, i said “well, just come join me” a few times and eventually she agreed. i change, she changes, and we hop into bed.
from here until the morning, it was basically a g-rated movie. a little bit of tickling and playful slaps, a few attempts at rolling each other off the bed. let’s break it down:
- cuddling: a few times while we were wrestling, my arm was under her head and her butt and backside were tucked up into me. we could’ve easily laid to rest in this position. unlike the paragraph above where i took my biggest chance, this is where i played it the most safe. each time, i “wrestled” myself out of that position and we just rolled over separately. i slightly wonder what would’ve happened if i didn’t do this (kissing, touching, basically everything below and after that) but i hope she can respect me for starting slow. again, i only have her word that she’s not a sexual person, and i’m going solely off that.
- kissing: because there was no cuddling, it was hard to get a kiss in. suddenly springing in for a kiss as i’ve done with some other girls would’ve just been awkward. she did ask for mouthwash and again i wonder what would’ve happened, but it’s water under the bridge now.
- sexual touching: she did not make any attempts to touch me sexually so largely i returned that respect. a few times during tickle fights, i would tickle her kneecap and then run my fingers slowly up her inner thigh. she didn’t mind, as in she didn’t brush my hand away, but she was ticklish and it didn’t elicit a sexual response. this was a big moot point; as awkward as it would’ve been to kiss without cuddling, it would’ve been more awkward to touch sexually with kissing or cuddling.
as we slept, our bodies touched occasionally. it was a bit more than just needing a place to sleep, but still a very slow start. in the morning she showered and i took her home. (snoopy: it went well, and it went only ok; it’s all relative 
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since everything was closed last night, we kinda made plans to hang out again earlier tonight. this could easily turn into a three-night report; i figured i should get the first two nights up before i forget. if we do hang out and it becomes obvious that we are staying together again, i will step it up a little bit. i at least want to cuddle; we’ve bumped into and touched each other enough to basically already be cuddling. kissing would be nice too, maybe a few soft kisses on her neck while cuddling to start. i like kissing. the hardest part and the thing i’m least worried about is the sexual touching. if it gets there i’ll deal with it then, but for now she’s running the pace on that one.
conclusion
- sm is sexual. every test i run comes to this conclusion.
- snoopy, and others wondering about adding p96 to this: <= 25mcg will do the trick. i don’t notice much difference between 1s at 25mcg and 1.5s at 37.5mcg, and if it’s too strong of a half spray it’s pretty much like getting another full spray anyway, so it’s more efficient to round down to 1s / 25mcg. that’s my personal sweet spot for my circumstances; a lower dosage would be a good baseline and from there you can add as necessary.
- i think sm gets better the more you know a girl. it’s rather forward and may be a bit strong for a first or second date. when it comes time for sex and you need something to push her over the edge, sm plus a softener like p96 will be the magic trick. as you progress into more sex, a blast of sm by itself seems to amp up the vibe even more.
- testing p96 is bittersweet. it works so well that i hate to use it on everyday tests. i’ve heard of the “big four” putatives - p74, p79, p83, p86 - and i think if there’s not already a “big five,” then p96 should be the fifth member of that group. if you wore all five at once, girls would probably combust upon your touch.
hopefully i have more to report at some point down the line. this seems like it could be an interesting endeavor.
Seems to me like it went pretty well! I’m glad to ‘read’ that things are working out with the two of you!
personal update: A is the “wildest” girl i’ve ever talked to. jfg and i had a long conversation today about being careful and not setting myself up for failure. she’s ok with me talking to A but she warned me about how some of her/A’s other mutual guy friends also tried to get somewhere with A and failed, and some of them took it too personally and got hurt.
i touched on this briefly in the sm report thread but i see this girl as a challenge. i’m not trying to “break her in” or anything of the sort, but this is my first venture outside of my comfort zone. again, normally i don’t talk to girls like A. my exes and other girls i talked to were fairly “predictable” in a way: go on some dates, sex after a few dates, and the sex was good. A is totally different - she’s pretty and she knows guys line up to talk to her, and she has no problem jumping from third base with one guy to third base with another guy. i can also tell from her personality and actions that she’ll also “use” guys while she’s with them. i.e. “i need to put up a bookshelf; can you come over and do it for me and then we’ll hang out?”
i will keep talking to A, always keeping my wits about me, just to see what happens. if i get burned, i get burned - it’ll make me stronger in case i come across this in my future pursuits (or it’ll make me smarter to know not to pursue this in the first place haha). along with keeping jfg updated i’ll keep you guys updated and any keen readers can provide input, possibly correcting a mistake before it happens.
all told, it’s fun to be back in the game again. the flirting, the randomness of picking sides of the bed to sleep on, it’s all good.
Good luck! It seems like you have a pretty solid idea of what you are up against. Can’t wait to read how things go.
A challenge is a great thing just as long as you know. Sounds like you, my friend, are in a great place. Love your blog 
personal update: this might sound a bit vain - apologies if it comes off that way - but it’s an integral part of my recent elevated spirits and i just want to share it.
i received a huge boost to my confidence the other night while hanging out with A. in the third consecutive night, when we were at my place, i had taken off my jacket and kept my short sleeved shirt on. it’s not a tight shirt by any means, but it is form-fitting and my arms and chest “look” like they fill it out, even if i’m not all that huge. as i was shaking the cocktail shaker up and down, naturally my biceps flexed and i noticed A kept staring at my arms. it was unmentioned, and i didn’t really expect her to mention anything about it, so i let it pass.
later that night as we were cuddling in bed, she had her hand on my chest at a few points. while we were still relatively awake, she said “you have a nice body.” i laughed and said “as do you.” then, at the beginning of our midnight walk when she had her arm looped in mine, she squeezed my bicep a few times.
i’m not built like a greek god and actually my self-confidence regarding my image has always been a little low. i’ve never walked around shirtless in front of any girl, at pool parties i spend most of the time in the pool, and phero testing at the gym is a proven testing ground because i know girls are looking at me for the pheros i’m wearing, definitely not for my body type.
the first night with A, i kept my shirt on going to bed, removed it later after we both got hot tickling each other, and put it back on in the morning before she was fully awake and could see straight. the second night, her glances at me and her compliment really boosted my spirits and made it all worth it: a little over a year of busting my butt at the gym, eating right, generally staying fit and undoing all those high school pig-out fests and college drinking binges. going to bed that night, i hopped in without a shirt and felt good about her touching me and having lots of skin contact as we cuddled. the next morning, for just a few minutes, i walked around without a shirt in plain view of her. first time ever doing so in front of a “random” girl. it might’ve just been my good mood, but i think i detected the faintest glance at me in the mirror when i walked by the bathroom. 
after i became single, i worked extra hard at the gym to “polish off those feathers” and get my external image looking right. however, i think the biggest asset to looking like you feel, is to feel good about yourself internally. confidence is key: you know you’ve worked hard, you know you’re doing the right things, you know you have every right to show off your new self. also, removing self-placed competition works wonders: there will always be that guy who is more muscular than you at the gym, or leaner and more cut. you’re not out there to compete with them. you compete with what you see in the mirror. once that number on scale drops (or your muscle density increases) you know you’ve come out on top. this works for the people you’re with too. i used to care what people thought. around girlfriends, i would think “i’m sure she doesn’t want to associate with someone [me] who looks like that.” around friends, i would think “i don’t want to be that laggard who drives girls away from talking to my group at the pool.” keeping reality in check (i’m not signing up for a bodybuilding contest anytime soon) that self-doubt has to be removed. here’s me; take it or leave it. as long as the people you’re with aren’t doused in vanity, they won’t care. your friends are with you because they enjoy hanging out with you. your girl/guy is with you because they see something special about you. looks might only matter for that .0001 passing second when someone glances and thinks “wow, that person is looking good” (and this can be fixed by dressing to your style and carrying yourself well); after that, it’s your personality, your knowledge, your inner self that has to do the talking.
Hell yea dude! great post.
Not vain at all. Super awesome to read this too. Got my vote
I couldn’t agree more!
wow, thanks for the all the support and nominations! you guys keep the good vibes going; i hope they come back around to you. 
quick test: p78 @ 12.5 mcg
had to give a presentation today and i remembered my p78 tests from many moons ago. it still works in that it helps me focus and get things done.
before the presentation i met up with some other people who had to give the same presentation. none of us had our slides ready so we sat around and worked on them while casually chatting. even with light talking, i focused primarily on my slides and making them look nice. the work atmosphere was the same all around the room: friendly chatting, serious work.
between that and my presentation time, i sat alone for a while to eat a snack and rehearse my presentation, and by rehearse i mean make up. :o i started making my slides this morning so my “script” was still a work in progress. again, i was focused and concentrating. right before i left for my presentation i had something to say for each slide.
i was collected during my presentation. i tripped up a bit during q&a but i don’t think any amount of p78 would’ve helped me there.
it’s nice how p78 somehow just helps me focus on the task at hand. the tangy grapefruit scent is great for perking me up and giving me a boost at the start.
You ever notice that it gives you a slow sensual feeling when wearing it around that range?
no, but i think i can see where that would come from. pretty much every time i’ve worn it, i’ve had something to accomplish. i think the first time, i had to do lots of cleaning and decided to put it on to see how it would affect me. i cleaned really well, so the next time was right before a test, and i focused really well, etc.
the main feeling is almost like determination or a steady but gentle and constant nudge. if i were doing nothing at the time, i could see how that nudge might turn into a sensual or euphoric feeling. definitely if i was with a girl and we were in the mood, perhaps that might lead to some fun as well - though i will say, alone, it’s not really a disinhibitor or attractant.
personal update but slightly phero related…
a wee bit of a problem
earlier tonight i get an urgent text from jfg: “bars. tonight. you and me.” any other girl and i would think “yeeeeeah, solo time!” but since it was jfg, i figured it was not going to be pretty.
it wasn’t. she wanted to talk about A so we picked a complete hole in the wall with nobody in it for quieter conversation. a quick catch up and hello and off she went.
the story goes that earlier this week, jfg began having suspicions about A. they’re friends, yes, but not “good” friends, not like typical girlfriend let’s-do-everything-together friends. sadly it started with the two great nights i mentioned in the p96+sm thread - the second part of this post: snoopy's mix plus p96: a comprehensive multi-night report and all of this post: snoopy's mix plus p96: a comprehensive multi-night report - #7 by jayarea
during those two nights, A had told me she wasn’t doing anything, so we should hang out. on the other hand, she told jfg she was at some house party. truth is, neither of those are true 
she was at a different house party than the one she told jfg she was at. (if you didn’t follow that, the gist is that she’s shady about her actions) jfg found out the truth early this week and decided to dig a little deeper.
the worst part is, there’s more to that third statement in the above paragraph. she was at an undisclosed house party with some other guy. here i am thinking (at the time) “it’s the weekend and we’re both not doing anything, we should fix that.” nope. i was guy #2 (and maybe #3, or more?) of the night.
right after jfg dropped this on me i was a bit in shock and i think she thought i felt bad, so she said “well, to your advantage, she didn’t stay long at the house party with the other guy; she spent most of the night, and slept over, with you.” i was more shocked than hurt but i guess jfg does have a point there. we paused to drink a little bit more before she continued.
so i’m guy #2 of friday night. that’s cool. this is casual dating, this is social life, we’re not attached in any way and we’re free to see other people. i get that. then came the real shocker: jfg said A did this again (be shady about her location/activity, how i was guy #2+ of the night, etc) saturday night.
seriously? this came as a shocker for one main reason: i thought we bonded well on friday night. we talked and laughed and shared experiences, and had so much fun that we made plans for saturday night to continue our conversations. knowing what i know now, she either lined me up as “the next guy” starting the night before, or she made plans with me first and then double booked with some guy before me.
editor’s note: i know i use a lot of “jfg said…” and “jfg heard…” this isn’t high school he-said-she-said stuff. jfg personally asked some of our mutual friends (who were at parties with A, or didn’t see her at the parties she said she was at) and some of A’s old guy pursuits and they all confirmed this. i trust jfg and know better than to try anything with her for fear of losing a good friend, so when she says “hey, getting with A is a mistake” it’s pretty alarming to me.
we both knew A is a social flirty butterfly. i went into this knowing she would talk to other guys, as is her full right to do so. but for her to literally double book guys for a night, one after the other, and be shady about where she is… that’s just too much for me.
now it was my turn to talk. jfg asked me what i thought about all this. here are the main points of my reply:
- it all makes sense now. in the two posts i linked above, we didn’t start hanging out til late at night, close to last call time at the bars. previously i had thought we were both bored and sluggish to make plans, and not really connecting until last minute. turns out she was rather occupied and not free until that time. jfg also took this time to reevaluate her friendship with A - her rhetorical question was “what if something happened, and i went to look for A at house party #1 when in reality she was at house party #2?”
- her “player-ness” is almost to the point where it’s out of line. for her to basically say “yeah, i had a great time tonight getting to know you and telling you about myself, let’s do this again tomorrow night, but after i hang out with another guy” is something i can’t handle. how do i know i’m getting to know the real A, and not some canned response? what if this is the real A? then she’s a social butterfly i can’t catch, and pursuing her with my time and resources isn’t worth it.
- i mention this in a few posts above this one: she’s the type of girl to “use” a guy. not necessarily sexually, but for miscellaneous reasons - “come over, let’s watch a movie together, but there’s a box with an unassembled bookshelf in the middle of my living room and it’d be great if you could put that up for me and get that out of the way.” if it boiled down to A just enjoying being around lots of guys only for their company, i could maybe handle still talking to her. but to know she uses them (me for someone to drink with and a place to sleep at night, other guys for who knows what), i just feel like it’s a lose-lose situation.
in my opinion, she’s too deep in her “have fun” stage for me, or pheros, to make any impact. it started out as a challenge, but given the fact i’ve never dealt with this type of girl before, and my flirting/relationship skills, i now know this is a challenge i will never win. sometimes you hold 'em, sometimes you fold 'em. take the loss and move on.
jfg agrees. towards the end of the night she kept saying “you can do better.” this wasn’t meant to make me feel better, though partially it might’ve been, but it was more of an anti-A campaign. she said i’m a great conversationalist, a charming guy, etc, and these qualities that girls look for shouldn’t be wasted on someone who won’t appreciate them fully. i thought to myself and about writing this report, “also, pheros shouldn’t be wasted on someone who can’t appreciate them or on whom they have no effect.” what good is a314 if my elevated status in her eyes doesn’t make me any better than the next guy? what good is any sort of attractant if she’s deep-set in maintaining her “non-sexuality” so she can continue bouncing between guys?
in conclusion, jfg and i decided i should cut my losses and move on. basically, it was fun while it lasted, it was a learning experience, it really opened my eyes, and i should leave it at that. i had a few emails come in while typing this report from our mutual friends after hearing jfg and i talked which basically said the same thing. A is having fun right now, and you can’t change someone; it’s better to pick your battles wisely and pursue a girl who will eventually come around.
so… back to square one. still single, no targets in mind, just out to have fun.
Hey man sorry to hear that
But you are better off.
Girls like that just wanna do what they wanna do whenever they want. I’ve had multiple friends that did that to other guys and you know what, in the end they’ve complained about how they coulda had something good.
You know what they say, you get another hand as soon as you fold.
Good luck bud, plenty of em out there. Trust me.