pheromone fried rice

Wow, nailed it. I woke up this morning, smelled my hands, and thought the scent was absolutely pleasant. It’s akin to Cool Water as P51 mentioned in the pj. Light and fresh but not overly fresh like fabric softener.

Also of note, last night was the first time drinking alcohol in a few months. I knew I was going to break my streak (or dry spell, however you want to look at it :stuck_out_tongue:) and just treated it as a normal night. Luckily, my tolerance was mostly still there. I flushed harder than usual, as expected, and the -none flush probably didn’t help. The one surprising thing that happened was that I found all of my drinks to taste way too strong even though I made them myself and cut the alcohol down from my usual “party guy” standards. It’s surprising because in my circle of friends, I’m known as the guy who likes to sip on a nice tequila or scotch when everyone else needs limes and chasers and juice and stuff. I guess after so long of not tasting something that burns, the burn hits you extra hard. Woke up fine this morning, urine was a little dark, lost a few pounds from being slightly dehydrated, but no hangover or ill effects. Nice gentle reintroduction to drinking.

Off topic from mones, do you get flushed every time you drink, or only when you have food in your system?

I flush each time I drink but it’s limited to my cheeks. I think of it as a less intense “Asian flush.” Some Asians have their whole face or even parts of their body flush. Food helps with the tolerance (not getting drunk as fast) but the flushing is still there; it’s like an automatic reaction and the degree of it is determined roughly by the amount of times I drink in a given period.

For you personally, does having food in your stomach make you flush?

Woke up this morning feeling pretty good so I went to the gym to stretch and relax in the steam room. I’ve only been to the gym on a Sunday a few times so I was interested to see who I would see. The only disappointment was that I saw the Asian milf I had been pursuing with SM. It seems she still goes at the same time I do but on different days. She eyed me a few times, I guess mainly as a surprise of seeing me on a Sunday, and I smiled at her. I saw some college cuties too. Might keep this in mind for future SM testing.

It’s been almost 48 hours since my PUF MX391 app, I’ve showered once and washed my hands multiple times, and yet I can still smell FF21 on my hands. Either I didn’t scrub hard enough or something in this mix is terribly strong. :confused:

A long-awaited natural hit at the gym

Completely phero-free today. I scrubbed at my app points for PUF MX391 and there was barely a faint trace of FF21 today, which could’ve been that or a combination of my body wash and hand soap. Typical gym day.

There’s (or there was) one couple who started going at the beginning of the year. They seem eastern European, some type of foreign I cannot identify. Guy has the salt and pepper look, woman is maybe mid 30’s. I have a strong feeling they both have the same workout program on their iPods because even though they don’t work out in the same physical spot, any time I look at them they’re doing the same thing. The guy usually works out by me and his breaks are always to the second without him looking at a clock, another indicator of an audio workout program. The woman usually does a portion of the workout and then goes to the cardio machines. I’ve glanced at both of them individually more so for the awe of watching them in sync; the guy doesn’t really acknowledge me and the woman always looks away quickly.

Two weeks ago, I saw them talking together on a bench. It didn’t look like a happy talk. That feeling was reinforced when the woman started coming alone. Since then I’ve only seen the guy once. He came in wearing street clothes, talked to the woman for a few minutes, then left. It might just be a projection of my thoughts but that day, he seemed to look at me for a long time while walking out of the gym.

I don’t know if they are married or not. They seem like great people - I overheard the woman talking to a pregnant woman about kids and then later on the guy joined in - and I hope they are ok in terms of being together. Maybe the guy is busy now. It is due to the woman coming alone that these hits started so I don’t want to be proud of a bad situation but it looks like things are just taking a natural course.

The woman and I have nearly synced workout schedules. She might come on my off days, not sure. She is there before I get there and leaves before I’m done. I think when I get there, she has finished her workout portion and has moved on to cardio because I always see her on the machines. The cardio area faces away from the door but towards the free weights so she never sees me come in but always sees me after I start working out.

Each time I see her, I smile and she smiles back. Then begins a peekaboo game in the mirrors. When I walk around idly waiting for my next set, I’ll look around or in the mirrors and seem to always find her eyes. When she does her stretches after cardio, I’ll notice her in the corner of my eye looking my way. I don’t think I glance at her any more than I glance at other women but she’s definitely in the top three of women who glance at me. We’re never within talking distance and if one of us has to walk close by, we look straight ahead. It’s a rather odd and comical situation. Next thing you know, I’ll write her a note and pass it to some guy and tell him to pass it to her. :roll_eyes:

Today I walk in and see her running. I go to set up and assume she sees me. We don’t actually see each other due to some machines and people in the way. During one of my breaks, I walked out to refill my water bottle. When I rounded a machine in front of her, she glanced just out of habit and then looked away. She recognized me and did a double take, then smiled. I smiled back. I went to fill up my bottle and came back.

When I came back through the main doors, she was facing away from me as usual. I walked back towards my stuff and stopped when something caught my eye, and then I did a double take. She had rolled her workout top up from the waist to the top of her stomach just under her breasts. You know how in some comedies, a guy sees a hot girl walking the other way and looks at her and then walks into a pole or wall or something? I almost did that. I just could not believe my eyes. After a few more sets, I looked again and her top was rolled down. A few sets later I had to pee which meant walking out through the main doors. I purposely took the same path so I could meet eyes with her again. Upon my return, her top was rolled up again.

One might not consider this to be a hit. Maybe she was honestly hot and rolled up her top coinciding with the times I had to pass by her. Maybe. But, whatever the case, this is a pretty important event/hit for a few reasons.

  • She has never rolled up her top before. I’ve never even seen her wear shorts. She always has long workout pants and a full coverage wide strap tank top. Same style of workout clothes with or without the guy, hot days and cooler days.
  • On top of that, I haven’t seen many women at all bare their midriffs at the gym. There’s one super jacked athlete girl who always wears some sort of specialized gear that has her stomach showing and that’s really all I can recall of women who show stomach. Even the women who are there to show off or want to show off while working out bare more of their cleavage and backside and not their stomachs.
  • 3 months of smiling at each other and then one day she shows some skin (in what could be construed as a non-sexual way) knowing I have full view of it… again, it might be a projection of my thoughts but I think that’s too much of a coincidence to not be a hit.

Then she did her stretches and left the main area, abruptly ending that dream. I finished up my set and gathered my stuff in the locker room. When I walked out of the locker room into the lobby area, I saw a woman sitting on one of the couches facing towards the front door, away from the locker rooms. You might see where this is heading. Her hair was wet and she was wearing comfortable sweats and some sort of clog shoes; it looked like she just showered. She was looking down at her phone when I came out. Without looking up or back towards me, she got up and started walking towards the front door at nearly the same time I was passing her couch. She then looked back and saw it was me, smiled, and continued walking. I wanted to open up something terribly bad at that point and I had the perfect delivery too - I was going to ask if she was still doing the workout program I’m pretty sure she is or was doing. My mind then raced back to seeing her in a rolled up workout top and then it got jumbled from there so I couldn’t really pull up a coherent sentence.

Hit #2 came when we reached the front doors. She got there first and held it open for me but instead of walking through it and then holding it open, she opened it, stepped into the doorframe, and basically just stood there. If I didn’t shorten my last few paces, I would’ve walked right into her. I held my hand out to get the door and I was practically hugging her. She looked back and smiled one last time as I stammered “Thanks.” One of us should probably say something when we meet again in the future.

Next time, friends, next time.

Damnn.. It was getting good! Looking forward to that next time! Keep doing what you’re doing bro. I think you have some interesting stuff up your sleeve.

Go get 'em :slight_smile:

AHHHH I want to know more! It was just getting good.

Good report though!

Whenever I make mistakes, I focus more on learning from them and not so much on reflection and kicking myself. In the case of the woman at the gym, I’m doing both. :o The good thing is that I know when and where I can see her again, maybe not in such great circumstances, and I’ll be prepared.

I put on the first half spray and one full spray of P130 today. No self effects, no hits at the doctor’s office or coffee shop. I’ll start up a pj for it when something cool happens.

Brought P130 and PUF MX391 with me to the gym today. Surprisingly, I didn’t see any of the regulars today. On the flip side, without worrying too much about testing or visiting, I had a great workout.

Great final test with PUF MX391: Project UF MX391-395 pseudojournal

I’ll be starting PUF MX392 at my next gym session.

Just got back from the grocery store and two interesting possible hits.

1: Older woman, 40’s maybe, walked into the store at the same time as me. She grabbed a cart and I split off to go find a basket. She was always one section “ahead” of me so when I was going to produce, she was just leaving and then when I got to where she was going, she was just leaving there too, etc. Each time I got near, she did some sort of body language move. I didn’t really keep track but I do remember a hair flip and a leg stretch / shoe dangle thing. She also looked at me plenty of times, more than usual for a grocery store encounter.

I lost her in the dairy section and found her again in line. There was only one lane open because the store had moved to nighttime hours and shifts. She turned, saw me, then leaned over the handle of her cart (butt facing me) for the entire time the cashier was scanning her groceries.

Then things got interesting.

2: The woman had a lot of things and I only had a few items in my basket so I had to wait for the belt to move a little so that I had enough room so place a divider down and set my things on the belt. Then I bent down to put my basket underneath the belt where they usually go. When I came back up (without shifting my stance), I nearly bumped into a girl who was standing no more than a foot away from me. She was wearing soft slipper-type shoes (Toms) so I didn’t hear her come up. I was even more surprised that she was so close. When I moved up a few inches - roughly speaking - to follow my items on the belt, she moved up twice that distance. She just kept crowding into me and was so close that I couldn’t really turn to look at her without being entirely creepy or acting like I was trying to start a conversation.

I don’t really know what went on there. There’s some residual scent from the PUF MX391 but I don’t think it was enough to get sandwiched by hits while waiting to check out. Maybe I should start going to the grocery store at night more. :wink:

Hey all, just wanted to give a quick update.

Bad testing environments started up pretty much after my last update here and in the PUF pj. What seems like half the state and most of my friends came down with seasonal allergies and flu/colds. Once those people got better, the other half of the state along with me and the rest of my friends caught whatever the first group had. We all know scents and pheros don’t play well with sick people so I’ve not sprayed anything for what seems like (and pretty much is) weeks. The good thing is that since I only work part time, I’m not around groups of people that much and I escaped with only a head cold. It started last weekend and I powered through it all this week; I should be good to go by next week. Then, provided April showers don’t get in the way, testing can start up again.

Here’s what I do have for updates:

The woman at the gym with the rolled up top and such - wow, this one is a rollercoaster. She dropped off for a week or two on vacation, probably. Upon her return, I thought we could pick up where we left off with glancing at each other and all that silly business but she seemed not to know me at all. I had a haircut and wore my glasses a few times, sure, but she no longer looked around in the mirrors, looked up when I walked by, nothing. I thought maybe something had gone bad between her and the guy she used to come with. Who knows. The turnaround to this situation came a few workouts ago when I saw her pull up in the car the guy usually drives / used to drive. So, that’s somewhat of a good sign, they seem to be sharing cars even though the guy isn’t working out anymore. Gradually she started looking around again and today she looked up and smiled at me. All this sounds like a bunch of great hits but really I’m just back to where I was before. I still have not talked to her. Still, I will keep it on the burner and see what happens.

Other women at the gym - gone. All gone. The older Asian, the young ones, all disappeared. They didn’t seem like casual goers because they lasted through the New Year’s resolution and spring break pushes so I’m guessing they got bit by the sick bug at some point. The gym has been a lonely place recently.

Male friends in my life - some are gearing up for weddings, job changes, graduation, etc. Big steps for them. I get great status hits just by being supportive since I usually have advice or an ear to give. A314 is my main staple. I wear it and then purposely pass off the sig. This makes the person I’m talking to feel more “stable” as normally I would feel stable given the effects of A314.

Female friends - they come and they go. I had a friend who described his casual friends as “raindrops.” Walk one way and get a few on you, walk the other way and get some more on you, they’re all the same. I have sort of the same view on my female friends right now. Not in a playboy way, of course, but in the way that no friend in particular has anything special to offer. It’s the same story anytime I talk to them: those with SO’s have moved on to hanging out with their SO’s friends and mutual friends, those with any sort of stress in their lives carry way too much drama, and the rest get by with an occasional email or text. I actually envy those people who have a fair balance of guy/girl friends and wish I had more girl friends but if they’re all raindrops, then I would rather have just a few good ones.

Dating - bleh. I think it’s my age group. You have girls in their mid 20’s who act like they’re still 18 / 21, way too immature and inconsistent. Then you have girls who act like they’re 29 / 30 and pouncing on any guy who talks to them as “the one” because they want to hurry up and settle down. Rarely do you find a girl who just wants to hang out and if you do, her walls are up super high because she thinks all guys have ulterior motives for “just hanging out.” There are a lot of blanket statements in this paragraph and not all this applies to everyone out there. It’s just my experience. I used to go out to try to meet people. Now I go out for the experience. If I go to a concert, it’s because I want to see the band and I’ll have a great time dancing by myself and not worry about anything else. Sometimes that’s bad, sometimes that’s good. I enjoy it.

Playing the cards I’m dealt. :slight_smile:

Who is this guy? :confused:

:open_mouth:

Pheros at the gym, re-re-revisited

5-7s Spaceland neck

My best hits at the gym (that included actual conversation rather than just glances and IOI) came from Spaceland and not from the -none heavy mixes I used to wear. I thought this was strange at first and now it finally makes sense to me.

If you’re a guy working out, your muscles have the “pump” and maybe you fill out your shirt more. If you’re a girl working out, generally you might be revealing more skin through wearing workout clothes. Everyone has a slight shimmer of sweat and really, everyone “looks good” while working out.

-none, then, plays less of a role than it usually does. Sure, that girl is attracted to the guy with big arms. Something is missing to complete the link though.

Enter Spaceland, IO, and alpha -nols in general.

My first run with 5s hit me like the first phero bomb ever or the first time ever drinking. I was a complete blabbermouth. Some guy had neon shoelaces; I complimented him when normally I wouldn’t. Another guy who usually works out solo looked like he needed a spot so I motioned to him and he accepted and we got to talking - normally I follow etiquette and let solo gym goers be.

All of my hits with women came from choosing a random subject to talk about and just going with it. Most of them were regulars like me and I had this thought of “Whether I succeed or not, we’re going to see each other weekly anyway so I might as well go for it.” Some women were open right off the bat and some were reserved or weirded out but they seemed to open up the more I talked to them.

I was riding on this “a ha!” moment today and drafting the report in my head when I got another “a ha!” moment: Spaceland more or less does not have a scent. It doesn’t smell pleasant, that’s for sure, but neither does sweating while working out. It was perfect for not being obvious. All of my other mixes are scented and gave the image that I was trying too hard. I had a post last year or so about finding out that one of my good friends was talking behind my back about me wearing “cologne” (pheros) to the gym.

I probably will not waste any more Spaceland at the gym but it was a fun few times that really opened up my eyes to broader thinking. I also enjoyed the openness because it got me out of my shell that I’ve been in for a few months and allowed me to experience the joys of human conversation.

On pheros

Old: A314 R25 SBE. I started using this almost daily when I was deep in my interview phase and recently used it everyday for a week. This is highly congruent with my sig right now like with going to networking events and such. The battle to find a job is tough but I know I have the skills and I’m confident. A314 really helps exude that image to others. I think the SBE (social bonding edition) is just right for my needs. I also have the P90 edition and I can’t quite get a feel for that yet; I think it’s a little more commanding. The regular A314 is also good for my sig but I feel for casual networking, especially in tech where you see more jeans and t-shirts than suits, it could be a little strong.

New: I haven’t quite caught up yet but I see MX391 is a winner from the UF test pack. I have also found this to be true in my tests. I have a travel baggie in my suitcase with A314, MX330, and MX391. On a couple of recent trips I used only MX391 because I forgot what it was even though I kind of recognized the number. Only after I got back did I realize it was from the UF pack. It seems UF2 has little/no scent which is appealing to me - I did not mind the UF scent but it highly cut back on what colognes I could use with it. In my downtime I got to sampling various Creeds so as of now I prefer a nice cologne cover.

On life
In tough times, stick it out. Some friends of mine, both guys and girls, have broken down in tears because they’ve submitted 100+ (literally) resumes and gotten nowhere. Life today isn’t the same as it was before - much like you used to be able to walk through an airport without a ticket to go meet a deplaning passenger, you used to be able to clip a job advert from the newspaper, apply, and most likely get hired. If you are laying back and waiting for an opportunity to come to you, then yes things will be extra tough. However, if you’re making the right moves and doing your part, even if you haven’t found success yet, you will at least be closer to it than the guy who is laying back.

On (past) relationships
This entire post is a few days delayed because I’ve been stuck on how to write this portion of it. It’s not entirely important, thus why it’s last, but I just need to write it.

I initiated the breakup, yet I’m not over her. I have not admitted this ever except to this keyboard in front of me just now. We both know she’s not coming back but it’s a different feeling when you break up over logistics rather than one person doing wrong or the relationship going sour. It’s the first time in my life this type of breakup has happened and it is certainly a weird feeling.

Time, actions, and moving on will heal all.

I had some issues with the P90 edition myself. So much so that I ended up giving half of it to P51Mustang. Idle reported that it was pretty awesome, but like you, I just couldn’t get a firm grip on it. It almost seemed hostile in many instances.

In this world and economy that best thing someone can do is start a web business and there are plenty of opportunities out there to take advantage of. One thing, of the many, I have going on is buying retro clothes and goods and then reselling them on ebay and the likes. I essentially have my own consignment store all web based. The best part about it is that I get the stuff dirt cheap (if you know where to go). All I will say without revealing to much is that there are outlets that sell used clothing and they themselves have outlets that sell it by the pound. I get 100 pairs of old school levi’s for $10 and sell each one for $20 to $50 a pair. People pay top dollar for the same trends that were in 20 years ago. Those same clothes are in the second hand stores. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

Time doesn’t necessarily heal but does tend to make us forget. If you love her and want to make it work, then read above about a will and a way. You can make it work if you chose to. Since you didn’t choose to its time to move on and find something better for yourself.

I don’t know why I missed out on this excellent and honest thread, jayarea, but, I’m here now… waiting IMPATIENTLY for an update! :slight_smile:

Another great post, one of many you’ve written here (in response to my situations). Big thanks.

And you’re getting one. :smiley:

Last week, I attended a small tech talk where some new companies were presenting their products. I like to go to these events not only to network but to keep up on my industry and see what’s out there. At this event I had no pheros on.

My first hit of this chain of reports was at that event with an Asian female (high 20’s, older than me). She had a presenter badge on and I saw her a few times walking around the room. At first I didn’t pay much attention to her as she was just another presenter in a room full of presenter, but I did keep looking at her as she’s very cute and was looking great. Near the end of the night, I noticed she would glance at me occasionally and we locked eyes and smiled a few times. Again, no approach. It was not until the very end of the event in the last 45 minutes or so when they were serving drinks and sweets that an interaction occurred. I was walking past the serving area (I’ve cut sweets and most drinking out of my diet) and she kind of showed up from somewhere and said “No dessert for you?” She didn’t have a dessert either so in a flash of genius, I said to her “Come join me in line; let’s grab one together.” She smiled and agreed and we went into the line together.

While in line, we got some of the formalities out of the way and then moved on to some more fun topics. She mentioned she was from the area and I’ve been here a while so we compared notes on favorite restaurants, clubs, things like that. After we got out of line with drinks and sweets, I was expecting her to head off with other contacts or her associates (not sure if she had any) but instead she offered to find a table to sit where we could continue chatting. So far, so good, except that one cannot expect a reasonable amount of privacy at an event like this. We only got a few minutes of continuing our conversation until other people came to sit at the table and then we shifted back to the topics of the event. Once the topic completely shifted away to geek talk, we both decided to head out. We traded contact info and then she went back to her booth to start tearing it down. I did one last pass through the room and smiled and waved at her when I was walking out the door. She brushed her hair and smiled and waved back.

Over the weekend we continued contact and she invited me to a networking event series that started this past Tuesday and went until today. On each day, one company would open its doors to the public and we could get tours and listen to various executives, then wrap things up with a dinner. Very neat concept.

I hold her in high regard but I was still wary of ulterior motives such as her getting kickbacks for number of guests invited (I got a casual invite through email and didn’t see any place to list her name on the registration) and other such things, not that I necessarily mind as long as it doesn’t affect me negatively. I do think that aside from all that, she genuinely invited me because she either knows as a fellow business person the importance of networking and possibly landing a job or she wanted to talk to me more outside of a formal date, or both. I signed up and just got back from the last open house to start this report.

I have a feeling I’ll see this woman again so I’ll call her Asian Business Woman, or ABW for short.

Day 1

1d A314 R25 SBE neck
1s ishine neck
1s cttm2 neck

Typical networking pheros that have not let me down so far. The format of the open houses was to split up the attendees into two groups for easier touring and breakout sessions, then everyone would join up together for dinner. On this first day ABW and I were placed in the same group. She was very happy to see me and we were together for most of the tour and breakout session just hanging out near the back, catching up on the topics from before. Since dinner was with everyone, we had to broaden our conversation to fit the table. We still had fun talking among the group.

Hits (formal male): At this and each following event in the series, I built great rapport with at least one other guy over various topics. This was pure networking and pheros at their finest. I now have great contacts in industry and sometimes, these types of hits are more worthwhile than the babes flocking to you.

Hits (casual female): Likewise, at each event there was always at least one woman there who seemed to stick to me, beyond ABW. They all seemed to be my age or slightly older and I suspect it was more of an age thing, e.g. the younger attendees there could relate better.

Day 2 - best day

1d A314 R25 SBE neck
2s MX115 back neck

Day 1 was a warmup and practice for me. I had to feel out the vibe, ABW’s feelings, and my confidence. Day 2 was pushing my chips all in. I knew what was possible and wanted to achieve as much as possible.

Akuto scent - oh my goodness, Akuto scent. I had put on MX115 thinking it was game scent and was very pleasantly surprised to find it was Akuto. It has been a long time since I got in touch with Akuto. It immediately turned me into a hornball. A thick, spicy scent will do that. Then the memories of MX115 hits came back and I was ready to get things done before even leaving my house. I had a great feeling about this day. I kept A314 for the status and networking purposes. MX115 was all for ABW.

We arrived about the same time and went to check in together. It was then that we found out we were not in the same group this night. She looked pretty down as we walked away from the check in table. I wasn’t going to give up that easily though, especially with MX115 clouding up just in time. I leaned into her (rather closely :wink: ) and said that I would just leave my group and tag along with hers. Since dinner was pre-counted as a large group, the worst that could happen was that I wouldn’t have a chair during the speaker sessions.

I have never seen someone’s face light up so quickly. She grabbed my arm in excitement and said “Awesome!” loud enough that people around us looked over to see if anything cool just happened.

The hits from ABW came in great form. At first she kept bumping into me as we were walking around. Then it was leaning in very close to whisper to me during the speaker sessions, closer than the previous day. The best hit of the night came when I was seated at the dinner table talking to the people around me about one of the projects I had just completed. ABW had gone to close up some contacts she met during the tour much like I was doing. When she came back, she approached me from about my 5 o’clock and put her left arm around my left shoulder and her right hand on my right upper arm. Without missing a beat, she said to the group “You must be talking about jayarea’s project. Well let me tell you…” and then she proceeded to talk me up. I was in shock and awe not only from that but because her leaning in close to me and basically on me was the furthest from “casual business contact” we had gotten so far. The guys at the table seemed impressed too that this woman was so knowledgeable about my project and was willing to qualify me. After a few minutes of standing behind me, keeping her hands on me, she returned to her seat next to me and we again expanded the conversation to the other table mates who were returning as well.

As we were leaving, her arm was touching mine almost the whole way to the parking lot. She was full and probably a little happy from the wine at dinner and I could tell she really enjoyed my company. I was still going strong from the energy I got from MX115 and Akuto scent and I made sure to give her as much of those positive vibes as possible. I dropped her off at her car and told her I had a great time talking with her tonight. She opened her arms to give me a hug but then it was almost as if we both realized where we were and how inappropriate that might be so it ended up as a business-y side hug. I could still sense the enthusiasm in her voice when she said she was excited to see me the next night.

Day 3

1d A314 R25 SBE neck
2s MX115

I’ll spare the story here: we ended up not in the same group again and we decided we should stick to the plan because this night was the most popular and needed three groups instead of two so we figured scheduling would be tighter. We regrouped at dinner and got some private conversation in but again since it was such a large group, the attendees were very diverse and the conversation at the table kept jumping and we had to keep up. As dinner was winding down she looked at me with sad eyes and said she was disappointed we weren’t able to hang out as much tonight. I told her it wouldn’t be the last time she saw me and this made up cheer up and smile. When we parted in the parking lot, we ignored traditional business etiquette and gave each other a warm full body hug with my hands on her waist and her arms around my shoulders.

Funny casual female hit: An older woman who was tipsy off of the wine at check in got attached to me since I was one of the younger guys in the group. I didn’t want the pheros to go to waste so I started blatantly hitting on her and she ate it all up. It was more of an exercise to get back into flirting and working the phero sig. I had to run away from her before dinner started to get a seat by ABW. :roll_eyes:

Conclusion

Things are going well but my instincts tell me to slow play this one. I don’t even have ABW’s number yet because we did originally meet as business contacts and I want to make sure she won’t be a potential coworker, client, or worse, a competitor, before we go any further. There’s not a high chance of that happening but it’s always crazy with business.

We’ve been communicating well through email and chat and I haven’t felt much pressure from her to take it to another level, nor has she offered up her number or any meetups outside of these events. I’ll continue talking to her and see what happens.