I don’t think Aplay is a bad person at all, although he could have said some things more tactfully and nicely.
Anyways, my friends: Namaste 
There has been, for the most part, a culture of respect and tactfulness within the forum.
I’ve gotten into disagreements with my share of people and we were able to resolve it without personal attacks. Tisha, Radman, Steve, Olfact, just to name a few, and we still can get along here and respect each other.
The way you come out with things, are brash and abrasive. People aren’t stupid on this forum, they can tell subtleties when it comes down to it, heck even I knew you were talking about tisha on your posts even if you didn’t specifically name her.
Remember what I told you before, the members moderate themselves, don’t get ousted for being that guy.
My bad OA
Heres a little kicker;
I havent been on this place in a while when last year I actually decided to stop using pheromones.
Why?
Because I realized that I was leaning on the pheromones to do the job of talking to women for me. And you know what? It didnt work. Pheromones wont speak at all. They dont have a brain, they dont have a mouth, they dont have a body. All they are, are little chemical messengers that can give a nudge to certain people.
So I stopped using them. I decided that I would use them very sparingly until I could bring my confidence to a level in which I would approach women most of the time, regardless if I’m wearing mones are not.
And it helped out. Bigtime. I am doing much more better than when I was first on here 6 months ago. I can approach, flirt, and close with relative effectiveness. Pheromones, like any other magic pill, isnt going to make you into a sex god. You are still captain of your ship. You are still driving.
In fact, heres a little secret that perhaps is not mentioned enough on this forum. From the “hit” posts on here, its easy to get the wrong perspective on mones.
Pheromones wont affect everyone. Or at least, not everyone will make visible reactions toward it. Pheromones are very streamlined. They will only have certain affects on certain people. Dont expect to walk into a party and have the affects of Ammo on every woman you come across.
Stories of people getting ridiculous hits such as “Oh man this girl came up to me and starting hugging me and grabbing me” Well I’m going to be honest here: Thats extremely rare, and thats probably why he or she posted it I would say, based on my experiences with mones, the ratio for people reacting towards it in a visible way seems to be about 1:7 (1 out of 7 people you meet will make a reaction towards it)
Pheromones are akin to workout supplements, guys. If you are taking a muscle enhancer, a test booster, protein, a gainer, whatever, and not working out - you are not going to see ANY results! The same thing with pheromones. If you want to attract the opposite sex, you must get in there, you must initiate, and you must take some sort of control. Period. Most women like control. Its in their DNA.
Last night is a prime example of how this kind of thing works. I had actually sprayed on just x2 IG, but by the time I came to my friend’s house, it was wearing off. (about 4 hours). My friend has these three pretty good looking chicks over with his roommates and friend. I introduce myself to them and find one of them really cute. Immediately when I get there they go “Yo these chicks are crazy!” in private. My friend is trying to get with the chick I think is cute, so I back off. I play it cool in the corner, wish him the best of luck, and have a couple drinks.
Well the night wears on and he defeats himself by standing around and acting like he doesnt know what the hell hes doing. Finally he goes trying to talk to her, but he fails. She thinks at this point, he wasnt really interested in her, and only wanted some last minute poon (which isnt too far off). So they decide to go. My friend, he gets kinda pissed.
I, who didnt have much time to begin with talking with her, decide to go outside. At that point, I was mone free (about 5 hours passed)
“So, I really liked meeting you tonight. I know I came late so we didnt have much time to talk, but I’d like to hang out with you sometime.”
“Oh? I liked meeting you too! Yeah sure lets do it!”
Thats it, got her number. Now, I know last minute number closes are a small victory, but a victory is a victory. It was really my control of the situation, and confidence, that got me her number. Will I actually hang out with her? I’m not sure. Probably not, I didnt build up enough rapport with her last night to do so. But my point is, is that sitting around waiting for something special to happen isnt going to get you anywhere. Its you taking control, and no amount of mones is going to do that for you. If I didnt walk outside, I wouldnt have gotten her number, simple as that.
Mones enhance you. They make you appear better. They make your eyes appear to shine, they make your voice appear to be deeper, and your swagger a bit more cooler. But it all comes down to you. Always.
Hey man! Thanks for being very open and honest and also critical about
the subject of mones. I really enjoy this forum in the particular way that
most controversial threads/posts (like your one below here) are not
deleted or moderated since that would create a cult vibe around here…
What I like in your post is that you are showing a healthy and realistic
approach towards the usage of mones when it comes to success with
women which also RADMAN talked about in this thread-start. I remember
the first time I found this place, I did not register because I was already
“smart” (or stupid) enough to know magic pills aint real, although, the
fantasies of them are always much better than the real deal in the world.
But one year later when I finally decided to register here I was also coming
in very skeptical and critical (which might sound cynical or even offensive
to some people and I apologize for sucking to influence your perceptions of
me in the right way!). Now, this approach has made me to expect the very
worst scenarios of mones (that they wouldn’t do a shit!) so if something
close to that would happen the contrast wouldn’t be so bad to experience.
Also, your example of the party situation is also very interesting and also
your statement of 1:7 ratio. I can also admit from my posts in my Journal
that those times when I experienced some significant “hits” (as I would
conclude then), I also did not experience any hits at all. So, I probably also
first got “7 no hits” and then “1 big hit”. But as you state, who wanna say
that 7 times the mones did not work and one time they worked? That is a
big hit to one’s ego and cognition so cognitive dissonance kicks in then!
Finally, your own statement and conclusion of mones, based on your own
experiences, is a very interesting one indeed: that mones wont affect all
people all the times. One thing that I learned from prior research (1-3) on
mones is that some kind of pheromones will have negative effects on
women when they are not ovulating and positive effects when they are
ovulating. So, if one could know this before going into a party or meeting
room where there are women, one could then test this hypothesis again!
\\ AplAy ///
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