if you mind sharing the info, please answer the poll. If you’re open to talking..then please answer these questions:
1- Are you single?
2- Have you been getting laid more often since you started using pheromones? (Hits, smiles, numbers, DIHL..all this doesn’t count what counts is your cucumber in her muffin)
That is a great poll saifz, to really see some public opinion about products effectiveness in general.
1-no, i think it wasn’t the pheromones that got her, but pheromones would have gave me a lot more chances with other ladies if i wanted
2-im mostly wearing social products, sometimes attraction product just the fun of testing them out, since im not gonna cheat ever
So maybe another poll option for people in relationship that can get laid but choose not to?
Currently I’ve got a girl, and yes I was wearing pheromones when we hooked up. (Alter Ego to be precise.) And I definitely think pheromones helped in the whole process.
But I ended up choosing "I get a lot of female attention, but I’m not yet in their pants" because quite frankly I think it describes my situation a wee bit better. I mean since I’ve been using pheromones the attention I’ve received from the ladies has skyrocketed, But I don’t take full advantage of that attention because as a personal preference I’d rather be in a loving relationship than having sex with random strangers. …call me crazy, that’s just how I roll.
First of all, it’s easy to get sex if that’s all you want. The problem is that sex usually comes with baggage, so getting more sex is not usually good. You want to save yourself for only the best and the worthy, and those are far 'n few between. Pheromone use affords you enough edge you can be increasingly discriminating about your partners. So increasingly better partners but less quantity for me. If you can get the best, why bother with the rest? So I can’t say pheromone use has gotten me more sex, merely better partners, and partners I like to keep around. It simply makes the process of human interactions flow better and, if I’m so inclined, I can more easily steer things my way. Most of the time I keep it in my pants.
However I must say the most significant life improvement brought on by pheromones is the ease of interactions in my social and professional life. And the little edge up allows me to focus more on substance and quality, rather than focusing on wiggling in or competing. It allows me to be more productive and that beats the shit outta the momentary thrill of a little honey on the old stinger.
I’ve got to agree wholeheartedly here. Even though I’m in the process of getting to that point, I understand… grok, even, that when you can take a meta look at your social and professional life and be happy and secure with it, the satisfaction can flow through your entire person. Compare the quality of life between someone who hates their job and is antisocial with someone who enjoys doing what they do for a living and is surrounded by friends.
Sex is great, don’t get me wrong, but sex only addresses a small part of a person’s needs in life. Yeah, we’d like to think it’s much bigger, and for you young bucks out there, it probably is. Speaking for myself, I’d rather have goodness in all facets of my life than to have constantly great sex while the rest of my life is shit.
I’ve said before and I will say again – pheromones do not get you more sex. Not to be overly harsh here but to even have that kind of a thought pattern is very immature and shows a “lack” of social intellect as well as a underlying sex frustration.
What pheromones WILL do is put you in more situations where you CAN have sex if you WANT to if you don’t get in your own way. Still – you have to talk to people and you have to make it happen. Pheromones can make things a lot easier to ‘happen’ – but not if your off in the corner – well at least not “usually”. lol.
I realize that people come to pheromones for different reasons. For me it’s because I am fascinated by them and am a social artist and also take great interest in testing something that i consider to be cutting edge technology. I realize for others – particularly those who are sexually frustrated – that they come to the pheromones as a magic pill to make women take on the roll of men so that they don’t have to. Sorry guys. Pheromones arn’t for the most part gonna solve your backbone problem. They can make women a little less subtle though if your interacting and paying attention.
I voted for "I get a lot of female attention, but I’m not yet in their pants", although to do so, I have to disregard last Saturday night.
As Fire & Ice so rightly says, and as many others have said, pheros give you the opportunity…but you have to grab it. But they do definitely give you more opportunites.
Great poll!
In answer to your questions:
1, Yes (divorced)
2, Well, I’ve definitely had more opportunity for more cucumber action, but the actual level is about the same (hey, I’m not easy, you know!)
The poll didnt really have a choice for my situtation. But it would be I have gotten hits. But I havnt really tried it with social increase.
I’m spending a little more time just being my same self for about a week or so more. to do my experiemnt right. I will get into that in my journal. When I mean myself, is just seeing if anyone reacts different toward me.
I’m in no hurry to increase my sex, still havning had none, I really dont miss it. after the many years it gets easy being a virgin. But i wouldnt mind at least increasing it when my health is at the point I could have it. I mostly have felt to have more social time with woman which I have not had in my life.
IMO these two paragraphs contradict each other a little, don’t they? If you do take the opportunities that pheromones provide, you will have more sex, right? Of course you have to do the work, but if you do pheromones will get you more sex…
Im one of the ones who answered the poll with the answer – have more sex.The point I continue to try to make is that pheromones are not going to make up for any deficiencies – they just enhance what you already are. A lot of virgins or men who are sexually frustrated seem to come to them, think they can put them on, and that then they wont have to face their fears and stare down their limitations – guys with no backbones can take pheromones and solve all their character flaws. Guys who wish that women would come up to THEM and approach THEM and propose sex. Nope. It just doesn’t work that way most of the time.
Pheromones don’t = sex – you do and your ability to screen for women you are “compatible” with and have chemistry with are what determines “sex”. Pheromones just help YOU but if who YOU are isn’t attractive than the pheromones can’t overpower that. They ENHANCE what’s already there. Therefor I find this poll to be completely useless for indicating effectiveness of pheromones in general. It all depends on what person is answering the poll, not the pheromones. A more suitable question might be – what pheromone seems to get you the most hits?
They won’t get you sex, they can "help" you to get sex but the whole thread in general is a very immature and oversimplified way of looking at it in the first place. Sex is a natural and normal thing that happens between two human beings who get lost in the moment for all sorts of different reasons and circumstances – not something triggered to automatically happen or to “get” when you apply some “pheromones”. Im all for science and Im all for testing – but lets not get carried away and forget the human elements in all of this.
I’ve been saying this here too FandI. While I do agree with you whole heartedly about them not getting you laid, in that same aspact wearing nice clothes wont either.
Going to the gym, eating healthy, driving a fancy car, living in an expensive house, wearing nice clothes, even mad game wont get you laid unless you, and only you, capitalize on all the assets you have.
Look guys what FIRE AND ICE is saying is the same thing that many of us have been saying. pheromones are a tool. Consider it like a hammer. In the hands of an amature it might not get a house built or even a nail driven, but a master craftsman? Now he could build you a castle. Learn how they work and use them correctly and they could work wonders. The key here though is YOU and not the pheromones. You still need to put in the work.
SteveO, one thing I’ve been getting more of since I got into pheromones, besides more phone numbers…is FLAKES!
pick up is easier now, but i guess something I can’t touch exactly is going wrong… and by flakes i don’t mean girl not showing up, i mean not being able to get to a second meeting or a date whatever u call it.. part of it can be my laziness and ego..if im texting a girl back and forth and she doesn’t respond to one of my texts..i delete her number. or it could be that my game over text is not congruent with my presence in person.. I don’t call girls because I get nervous over the phone..
It’s always funny when our fellow forum friends think we are getting tons of numbers and such, but a lot of those numbers don’t get called. I have one particular bar that is my favorite, and I have pretty much every girls number in there but I wont call them. Then there are the countless others who do flake.
I only report about the good hits not the hundreds that dont work out for me.
exactly. Something pickup teachers talk about is that you NEED to follow up with your numbers, call the girl..if she didn’t answer leave a message, if she didn’t call back, u try in a couple of weeks.. ugh, I don’t go that far..
I realized my situation is a mix of wanting something so bad, and in the same time not taking enough action or sometimes letting opportunities slide..
for example I’m frustrated somewhat and I wanna get laid. in the same time there’s that girl that asked me out, got her number..texted a couple of times, but I’m not so excited to see her. I think she’s boring still I wouldn’t mind sexing her but my self is not in peace with the idea of having sex with someone I don’t truely appreciate as a person.. i think that’s why I’m not getting laid randomly, because I am not looking for a relationship but in the same time myself and my programming from culture and all tells me its wrong, eventhough I want to do it..at some level I’m not in peace with it.
there’s also that cute blonde girl in one of my classes who’s waiting for me to talk to her, can tell from her subtle cues.. but I just never did.. and then I get horny, go out and do cold approaches.. get numbers, and get flakes…while instead I can try to have sex with these two girls..but then again I’m not sure I’m emotionally ready to handle the situations and their side of the emotions..