PUA: Break down this Text Convo.

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The name of the game is to breakdown text or IM convo’s and enhance our internet game as this is an evolution of pickup.

Here is mine for tonight, I had talked with her once not very long but a random friend add that I am trying to turn into a meet.

10:38pmNina

you dont even know what tomorrow is :S

10:39pmGabriel

but I know you got your shit together
you gotta be prepared
lol
what is tomarrow anyway?
10:40pmNina

haha well thank you but its not me
my mom is gettin surery
surgery
10:40pmGabriel

ouch oh well, hope your mom is gonna be ok
serious?
10:41pmNina

ummm idk
well its a not so difficult one but bc her age and size…it makes in complicated ya know?
10:42pmGabriel

thats tough, I really do hope it all goes well for her
10:43pmNina

me too
thanks
10:43pmGabriel

and school?
hows that for you
done?
10:43pmNina

done
it went very very well
10:44pmGabriel

that’s excellent
how much longer do you have or are you already done?
10:46pmNina

im dont
done
i have grades and everything
10:46pmGabriel

wow that’s quick
10:47pmNina

well we finished on the 7th
10:47pmGabriel

ahh
we are still going on down here
friday is last day for finals
10:48pmNina

nice
how you think your doin?
10:48pmGabriel

im doing ok
i will be out next may
engineering degree
10:48pmNina

me too
bus admin
10:48pmGabriel

then europe for 8 months
10:48pmNina

with a minor in international business
10:48pmGabriel

that sounds awsome
are you going to travel?

10:52pmNina was tagged in a photo.

10:56pmNina

this summer?
yes
10:56pmGabriel

after you graduat
im doing the whole euro go out thing
10:57pmNina

hopefully i can find a business/place to work where i can travel
10:57pmGabriel

thats what I want
i love to travel
10:58pmNina

me too!
lol i think thats why i road tris
trip*
10:58pmGabriel

heh
well here is a question
do you like to travel, or would you like a job where you stay somewhere for a couple of months then travel to a different country or city?
11:01pmNina

either
as long as i dont have a fam im down for anything
11:01pmGabriel

cool
that’s a hard personality to find
most people want to settle down and have kids
i just want to travel and meet people
11:03pmNina

yes!
idk i love to travel and experience different cultures
11:05pmGabriel

im the same way
my best friend in highschool was a host family for exchange students
I am very attracted to accents lol
and I have a texas southern accent lol it’s weird
but learning so much, it really makes me want to travel
11:06pmNina

i have fes at my house
we have has 4 and next year we will have a girl from spain
11:07pmGabriel

…
that’s cool
11:07pmNina

well you mentioned foreign exchange students…
11:07pmGabriel

only thing I hated was the girls from finland, she would walk around after a shower naked
they do crazy stuff
but the food they can make is great
11:08pmNina

awesome
wait…you hated her waitin around naked?
HAHA
11:08pmGabriel

LOL
your silly
I didn;t say it like that
it was awkward is all
I mean the girl would stop and carry a conversation
lol
I have some crazy stories
11:09pmNina

HAHA
11:10pmGabriel

like… woah stories, I dated them during high school to say the least lol I was alwayse over at his house anyway it always kinda happened
that’s something new about me
11:10pmNina

it always kinda happened?
11:11pmGabriel

I never dated an american untill I was 22
11:11pmNina

wow!
11:11pmGabriel

no no I am not some kind of ladies man lol
11:11pmNina

i havent dated a white boy since…15?
11:11pmGabriel

haha
don’t tell me you are another eva longoria with black guys…
somepeople will just stick with a race and that’s it for life ya know
11:13pmNina

oh no
usually just mexicans or at least they are part
11:13pmGabriel

lol ok good I’m safe then HAHA
11:13pmNina

im not closed minded but idk…just have an attraction for…non white boys? lol
11:14pmGabriel

heh I know what you mean
I was recently dating a girl from a small town in Taiwan
talk about different
11:15pmNina

yeah. how was that?
11:15pmGabriel

I guess I am attracted to different girls, well different from what I am used to
Well, I will not be one to kiss and tell, but it was very nice, she was here for 4 months and then she went back home
11:16pmNina

ic
11:16pmGabriel

I guess you could tally up my attraction to personality, eyes, smile, and semi pale skin
what about you? what do you look for?
11:17pmNina

eh idk
11:17pmGabriel

is that so?
11:18pmNina

they just have to be nice and funny, affectionate, easy to get along with me and others
stuff like that
smart not a jackass
11:18pmGabriel

hows cocky funny?
11:18pmNina

i know it when i see it
i dont like cocky guys…but confidence is good
11:19pmGabriel

confidence is the key to cocky with the ability to be funny and interesting
I have confidence but I am not a jackass about it, I am firmly aware of my limitations and I stay within them… unless there is patron… then all bets are off
11:19pmNina

well as long as they dont take it overboard
11:20pmGabriel

I understand what you mean
11:21pmNina

yeah im a pretty easy going girl. im able to get along with most anyway
anyone*
11:24pmGabriel

well that’s alwayse good
I have lots of friends from very diverse groups, so the trait of getting along with everyone is good to have
I’ve got to go, meeting a friend of mine at Ihop, we should talk more ya?
11:25pmNina

sounds good
11:25pmGabriel

I’m glad we actually “talked” it was nice
ttyl
11:26pmNina

haha yes. ttyl

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You started out strong with small talk but in the end you came off as less then confident and like your were trying to impress her by verbally social proofing. Social proofing dosnt work verbally. Notice how suddenly her responses became short and clipped around 11:14 PM

To a women it comes off as your trying to hard to impress which shows a lack of self confidence and pulls you out of the Alpha catogory.

Now around 11:18 she trys to convey this and you then push the subject by being cocky

At this point she signs off and says to herself NOT !! Thats what the HAHA was for.

Not trying to be harsh but you asked. Oh and before you think, Well your a girl what do you know about PUA. I would have to say probably more then most the men. After all women have been practicing it since the beginning of time.

Tisha

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I’m just going to back up Tish on this one. I have the same feeling.

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I can’t believe you guys read all that!

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Once again dj, I’d go with tish on this, if you notice, all the time you were asking about her, you were getting fairly long, detailed answers. As soon as you started ‘hiding’ details about the girl from Taiwan, she noticed that you were dangling the bait and backed right off. Had it been face to face, you would have noticed and bailed out of the set. I get the distinct impression that, up to this point, she was gaming you

Online game is a bitch because you are only getting 10% of the communication. Read back through it and imagine it was a club scene, now pick up the point where she crossed her legs away from you and started to tap her foot :wink: You’ll spot it.

If you think of PUA as playing the ladies at their own game, you won’t go far wrong. As Tisha said, they’ve been doing if for thousands of years and, as a result, even the likes of Mystery and Gambler (and there’s no doubt how good they are) will always be at some disadvantage.

The other thing I noticed is that your attention slipped around 10:43/ 10:44. You asked whether she had done with school, she said that she had and you asked again whether she had done! Most girls I know would have picked up on this and the alarms would have started ringing.

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It really is true, If you really want to see it observe a 5 year old girl wrap her father around her tiny little finger. We are born to it, its a natural instinct that we have been practicing since birth.

My Best friend is male and his grand daughter does it to him all the time. I laugh my ass off. He never noticed till I pointed it out and he is a PUA. She is gonna be a handful when she grows up LOL

Tisha

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And this is why I post, I want insight.

Diamond I ment Overall wise not semester wise, which is why is sounds like the same question twice.

  1. I do not talk about the sexual of past partners with possible future partners, should I change this rule?

  2. As far as the 11:18 bit, I picked up on that too which is why I bailed, but I dragged it out too long. I should have nixed the looking for bit, but I talk to her perhaps once a week for like 15 minutes.

  3. I have to admit, she made it quite difficult I should have ended 8 minutes earlier.

Thanks for the advice all, Tisha you know how it is. It’s all about improving, this girl is across the country, if I can not practice on that, the ones closer will never meet up LOL.

-DJ

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11:16 is where I thought it all fell apart

(her response was ic), after which you essentially carried the convo (she stopped asking questions)

If I was talking to a guy and he mentioned this chick from Taiwan he dated who was all weird and stuff but then gave a vague throwaway answer when I asked how… well I would assume he was lieing about dating the girl from Taiwan

When she said ic is where I see Diamonds “legs being crossed” at the club

she checked out because (imo) she thought you were BSing her and trying to impress her with your foreign girl stories.

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Thats what I figured as well, Most people do not understand about host families.

I figured she would understand as she was a host family for 4 girls… They get pretty wild.

And yea it’s all true, did’t date an american until 22, dated foreign exchange students. Taiwan girl took classes in a building I worked in, that was fun since her apartment was above mine, I live across the street from our university.

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Text msg is for small talk. You are right that you should have ended it much much quicker.

Dont wait for response immediately log off

Oh and when she started with:

your response should have been:

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Steve - you’re infested.

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Dang! that is a looong conversation to fiddle into a phone with text. Yet it could have been said in 10 minutes of phonetalk or five in person.