Putative Pheromone P80 - Masculine, Grounded

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Putative Pheromone P80 - Masculine, Grounded

Interesting Combos:

4x 5mcg p80(20mcg) + 1X 2.5mcg p75(5 min later) = Focused
20mcg of p80 + 20mcg of p99 = Everything was amazing
2.5 mcg p80 + 1 spray jerk + 1 spray shine = center of attention, good vibes
2.5 p80 + 2.5 p91 = cool mix. soft yet still strong vibe.

Real User Feedback:

This …seemed much darker to me. Even at only around 18mcg I felt in a dark, pheromone fog. I felt decidedly unsociable and almost unwell maybe it just doesn’t agree with me…

There is a degree of arousal there but it’s just so damn dark that I think I’d need to be locked in a room with a ready and waiting woman to use it. Can’t imagine myself actually talking to anyone long enough to pick up with this…

I did notice that I moved in a much slower, more fluid way. Sort of like a tiger prowling around the jungle. Similar attention and looks to P75 - also as a result of my body language.

It certainly had a very masculine vibe to it, but I can see this getting intimidating really quickly. I tried at increased dosages (30mcg) and still didn’t like it. I don’t mind projecting a strong, masculine vibe, but this seemed way too serious to me- not something I could be congruent with if I was using it as an attraction tool.

• BLADE

Got my order today so started off with a try of P80 25mcg ToGo. 1/2 ml diluted with 2ml of perfumer alcohol in Togo for 5mcg a spray. First dose At 5mcg in afternoon at home, then 30min later out for a walk to shopping center and tea bite to eat.

This is a masculine phero, made me feel that I was the man, but did add an aggressive attitude to my persona. Felt like if anyone fronted me then it was on.

I walked tall with shoulders back and head high looking down on the world. Also give sexual undertones, got that elevated interest in sex with a slight but noticeable physical response in loins.

There is an initial buzzy, heading feeling but this wears off quickly and with an hour it had gone, still some effects but still present such as walking tall.

This would be good for an instant confidence booster, or just before getting some action.

2hr later and back home another 5mcg Did not get the initial buzz and high, lifted it a bit but not as much as the first dose.

• BubbleCatcher

Some months ago when I was playing with both P80 and Estratetraenol, I was surprised that they both gave me a kind of energy rush that had a very similar quality.

I, too, have always considered P80 to be masculine… I read that several places before (and since) I began testing it. That is part of why I’ve made that assumption, but it does have a fairly aggressive feeling. Perhaps, if you compare P80 with the more active aggression of P79, you could find a feminine nature in that contrast. P80 has been called Instant Dominatrix.

Then, again, estrogen is among the breakdown products of testosterone, so it is not always that straightforward…

• Warren

P80. Attention from others, positive attitude that inspires cohesion amongst friends. I have a lot more people smiling at me, waving to me even if they barely know me. All around the university, I am getting this, and conversations are a lot easier to go into and maintain.

• yogalefty

I think it’s sexy, though not by itself. It adds an impulse, intention, drive, passion, a desire to a sexy mix that might otherwise be just “pink clouds”.

• Warren

P80 has definitely got some interesting effects on me. But it doesn’t seem to be “dark” at 10 mcg. It made me respond with more masculine centeredness, confidence, and I guess the word is “boisterousness”. I found myself feeling very confident and talking too loudly. It was as if I naturally expanded in my masculine presence and all attention was on me… the wait staff looked at me while asking other people what they wanted as if I was going to answer for them. I had to defer several times to those older than me out of courtesy, lest I have been the one the wait staff expected to do all the ordering.

I also found myself “hunting” with my eyes. Noticing people around me more… and especially the female people. Even more especially, their chests and butts. It was unusual because I don’t typically focus on and stare at these body parts like this… I like them, but this was ridiculous. I wasn’t even horny! My waitress at one point noticed me looking at her cleavage while she was bent over trying to speak louder for my grandfather and began covering up, and I began wondering what was with me, staring so blatantly. Beautiful cleavage, sure, but come on… there was no tact there until I realized what I was doing, and only when she covered up did it cross my mind.

Then there was the waitress with the great behind I kept staring at. Whew, what curves. Made me want to go ask her out.

So P80 is definitely masculine, and seems to be sexual, but didn’t make me sexually aroused. It did make me focus on staring at and want to pursue women for their curves. I also got the impression that I should have worn more to get the main effect.

It was me, my grandfather and my mother. The three of us normally have much more conversation than we did today. It was mostly no talking. That also caught my attention.

• catlord17

2.5 mcg P80 did not have a very obvious effect on me, but I did notice it slightly. Most of the day we were outside at the beach or in my car with the windows rolled down. Then we had dinner together and came back here to watch a movie. She was already favorably disposed to sex, so I suspect that the 2.5 was the most I could have worn without actually turning her off…

• catlord17

…p80 does seem to have that Anone aggression. To be honest I’ve probably worn it at too high a dose - 10, 20 and 30mcgs, both solo and buffered with socials. I’ll have to dilute it if I want to test at 2.5mcgs. It’s very masculine and very intimidating to people who don’t already know you. I love the self-effects for the first 4 hours then after that, I get a bit of (Anone) rage and have to wash it off.

• WildFlower

I didn’t note any rage effects at 10 mcg .

• catlord17

P80 is the most authoritarian, put your foot down and establish the law stuff in the cabinet. When you wear P80 people tend to get your message in a very direct way. Doesn’t take too much either.

• tacitus

P80 is the most military pheromone… you feel like a sergeant, others feel that way about you

• tacitus

I 2nd this. I recommend using it with caution though simply because it is so powerful and the effects so dramatic. It turns the most alpha guy’s you know or can imagine into a shy, supplicating men. Submissive puppy dog eye contact, nervous giggly laughs etc. Might not do a lot for your popularity but if you want dominance then you want p80.

• WildFlower

P80 - It feels** too masculine to me.** I don’t use it, Wolf does. It’s grounding, forceful, and provides punch in a mix. Go easy, especially if wearing it in combination with Androstenone … unless you’re into feelin’ like Oscar De La Hoya. Trust me.

• Bella

p80 self test.

Started testing with 2.5mcgs sprayed to the neck. did not notice much in terms of self-effects. Added 2.5mcgs to my wrists, slightly noticeable effects, although I could not pinpoint it. About half an hour later added 2.5 again to my neck. The total is now at 7.5 mcgs, and I can clearly notice a sort of aggravated/ focused feeling. Not sure how to really describe it.

• Maidenfan01

P80, 2.5mcg per spray

Initial self-effects observed.

This has some sedated feelings for me. It’s actually quite different, I have a sensation that’s hard to explain right now. I gotta say I’m a little bit more relaxed and this felt full effects about half hour after application.

After some of the effects of sedation wore off, I think it might have just been my system getting a higher dosage of a product. I will do things the right way after the first initial application and start at 1x (12.5mcg)

However as the day went on and had my afternoon caffeine fix, I was able to finish the work I needed to do today. I was able to really get in gear to get things done.

About 6-7 hours after application I was still in a motivated let’s go get it mood. It was a significant difference that I can tell and it was like I had a clear focus on what I wanted to do and I went to get it done. There was no A314, there was nothing else there and I don’t know what it could have been and could this Putative have been affecting me in a way that was really making me go for what I know needs to get done.

• P51Mustang

P80 25mcg Both sides of neck
Temps mid 30’s out, 70’s indoors, moderate humidity.

I have to say there is the motivation and fun factor to this.

As for self-effects I have to say that I was more jovial and rapport was great as a result of that. I feel that this is one of those feel-good pheromones that indirectly will result in better bonding with people.

I met with several clients today and I can’t even begin to tell you how smooth the meetings went. Business was signed sealed and delivered and I couldn’t be more impressed with how this works for me. The effects on my co-workers were more fun and really just been pleasant. I’m loving how the self-effects of this putative does and I still sweet spot test, but as of now I still have 25mcg for one day, then I will try out 37.5 mcg next week.

• P51Mustang

P80 25mcg Both sides of neck.
Temps mid 30’s out, 70’s indoors, moderate humidity.

I had like two hours of sleep last night so I knew I was already cranky.

However, for some reason, I wasn’t snippy like I was. I still had some agitation but I still think that this has some factor to it that’s TAA like. While TAA is fast and sharp, I feel that this is more like smooth and mellow. It is still really early in my tests but it would be akin to the differences between IO vs IH.

• P51Mustang

P80 - 37.5mcg Both sides of the neck, back of the head.
Temps around low 30’s outside, 70’s indoors, low/moderate humidity.

This one is really interesting. It just puts me in a great mood. I sprayed it in the car and I was on my way to work this morning and I’m never happy about working on a weekend but whatever. I get about 5 minutes after application and I noticed I was a heck of a lot more upbeat, the songs playing on the radio just elevated my mood, it was like everything around was great and really happy.

I know that songs can uplift people but I’ve heard these over and over again and I can notice a good reaction to it but it’s like everything else. The effects on others have also been very pronounced. I met with two clients in a row and I closed one deal and have a great opportunity for the other one. I could have done the business for that today but one was scheduled and one wasn’t, and I wasn’t about to let the one I had an appointment with to wait for half an hour. Again it is very early to tell but because of the uplift in the mood, it really would give clients a better outlook on things and helps my job. At 37.5mcg I’ve noticed better effects than 25mcg but I’m still at the sweet spot testing ranges of this. However knowing and feeling these effects I don’t think any higher would make much of a difference and actually hinder the approach I’m trying to make.

• P51Mustang

Product: P80
Dosages: 25-37.5mcg
Application points: Neck

Self Effects:
…giving me an upbeat and go-getter responses… I had a determined that this gave me great motivation to work to push forward and get things that needed to be taken care of completed. It was great I was loving the upbeat effects along with the focus and drive with work.

…Client dealings were especially easy. I was able to do what I needed to do, someone in my field can really benefit from it, I’ve had an easier time than the A314 revisions, but over the long term, I don’t know how that would hold up.

In my really unbiased opinion, as I’ve read here that it’s the most military-like pheromone out there. As far as that, it’s more akin to a cross between A314 and IG would be. I think it’s a good medium for that, it’s not overly alpha that intimidation effect but helps in such a way that is conducive to people listening to you.

The respect/authority of it seems a bit more “comfortable” than with A314 but less jovial than IG .

• P51Mustang

good stuff. Thats some high doses there, have you tried anything lower? I notice self effects at around 7.5-10 mcgs.

• Maidenfan01

P80 is a gem that quite a few people need to pick up and test more. Great for any time you need or want to appear dominant.

• Maidenfan01

P80 10mcg sides of neck.

There are a few ups and downs with using P80 that I’ve found to be quite effective in my line of work. I had a brand new prospect which turned into a client today. There were no previous contacts and they came in for my advice. Typically with these types of situations, it takes a couple of meetings before the client either commits or decides not to go with us. **Today we completed all steps in one shot after just about 20 minutes of our conversation.

To me under normal circumstances was pretty impressive. I did notice though that I’m intolerant of petty BS and are quick to respond to it and call people out on things that we all know is BS/wrong**

• P52Mustang

P80 - 1 spray neroli 12.5 mcg /s in chest
Temp : 35-40c
Location - At home

I had my monthly and I was experiencing many symptoms of PMS. They are getting worse day by day.

Mood before testing: Was crying (on nothing), hopeless, lonesome, wanted cuddling, didn’t want to get up & go to work, had pain & was fussy. Thought of running away & hiding somewhere. Was very cranky…

Self-effects - Within 15-20 mins( I actually noted time) I was quite. Not crying & was feeling in my control. I asked myself what the hell I was crying on & then I realized I had mone on & it is doing something. I felt in control. I was not feeling any turbulence.

It was like magic happened & all the symptoms of tremulous & upset & emotional misbalance have gone. I wasn’t happy or upbeat but was very much in my solid state. Nothing was disturbing me. Not many thoughts were coming to mind. I was in a plain state of brainwork.

if I was on -10 on the scale before P80, I was at 3-4 within 20 mins of application, without realizing when I went past 0. It was like immediate shift.
As I am saying it was an emotional control, & feel good within, not really uplifting.

I was in an undisturbed state. I felt as if, whatever happens, I can take that. At one point I felt I have enough strength to undergo any circumstance. I felt a stern feeling, not aggressive.

I felt there is no point sitting like this & should do some action. I had a feeling of let whatever it is, & move on with my objective( I was kind of driven, but for what? I don’t know, I had no objective in that situation).

I was kind of carefree, about what happens as a result but was ready to go for it. ( I had no idea but what to do, so made a plan in head to go out with chic when she is back & get something. What? Again no idea. This is funny ) I waited for the chic to come back from school…

• Gracious

I started testing out p80. (1-2 sprays, 2.5mcg/spray)

It’s cool, it has a masculine vibe. It’s appears to remove self-doubt and increase focus, motivation, confidence, conversation, and mood.

…It reminds me of a314, as it is more appealing to mature individuals and is almost threatening to non-alpha or low-confidence males.

…older people responded very well with this product (30’s and up) in a very dignified, open and respectful way.

So far, the main effect of p80 I notice is motivation, confidence and instant self-doubt removal, I like it.

…I would say p80 is a good product for someone who is shy and has problems asserting themselves or would like to bring out someone’s assertive side…

• Jeiyt

So I checked out p80 some more.

It kinda sparks hyperactivity in people or something. I sprayed it at like 3 am when I was dead tired and it woke me up like coffee, just my mind but not my body. My mind was so awake and alert suddenly, even though my body was still dead.

…p80 is great for studying, or creativity. it’s like, yea military, I’ve noticed that it gives my normally wimpy contacts some self-dignity and backbones that I’ve never seen before. It’s not really a chick magnet mone but it’s cool and get’s across the room kind of attention if you keep your eyes out… Whenever I play music or draw with p80 I seem to be creating works like I have not done before, I’m really happy with this feature. In other words, it’s kind of a self-study or even lone wolf pheromone since it just locks people in their personal goals. If you have any lazy friends, wear this around them, should help out some. Peace!

• Jeiyt

P80 is cool, adds confidence, good for attraction with more matured and/or middle-eastern individuals for some reason.

I found that mixing tal and p80 kind of counteracted on me, attracting attention from very extreme levels, either too matured or not mature enough.

The same thing happened when I sprayed too much p80, must be strong, seems to overdose easy, creates this invisible forcefield like bubble around you, and unless someone is really trying to get your attention, it’s not the best thing that can happen to you, you’ll be hanging around the spooky kids all night. Think of p80 as a concentrated respect mone, any more than just a faint amount does a lot, people will give you a lot of air to breath, a lot, with any more than just a little. Paired with a314 and shine, all sorts of people are your friend all the sudden. Although, a314 and shine is cool. a314, shine, and p80 is grounded. I kind of switch it up every night just to target a diff audience.

• Jeiyt

Yea p80 is very groovy, masculine on its own, confident with shine, a less formal a314, in my opinion. Although it mixes well with a314, it’s a little strong with other pua 's or expirimones that I’ve tested thus far. Aka, the big brother mone.

• Jeiyt

Nice energy boost for like 1 hour or a bit longer at 20mcg.

• idontknow

p80: get’s salute from men often. high respect. very dominant. masculine. attracts competition and men in general, women like it also but it makes them competitive which in some environments makes them a bit shy. eliminates self-doubt. this mone I would have to put in a self-study category. it’s good for staying productive. very motivational. brings out the strong masculine in all surrounding subjects. good for competition, confidence. it kind of overpowers the effects of pretty much all other mones I’ve noticed. it also has a mood booster. feel-good positive aura. best for competition or getting shit done. men actually respond very well for this. I’ve paired it with jerk and it makes a good mix of going out and meeting all sorts.

• Jeiyt

p80 is actually more like a supercharged confidence. it’s like a super -none without any negative effects on men, guys actually love being around this shit, makes them super competitive and respectful. can be too strong for girls in non-intimate or competitive environments. p80 is a “get up and do shit” mone, so when people sniff this they just absorb the confidence thing and start doing shit, so I’ve noticed thus far.

• Jeiyt

At home, 5mcg of p80 really brought out my shy girl roommates.(housemates? -Mod) I have two female roommates that are almost my age, mid 20’s and they are not from my country and are really shy of most people. They all the sudden just started chilling in the kitchen and talking to me and really trying to get me involved with them, very confident, open and relaxed.

p80 also seems to make guys really gay around me, either that or there are way more closet homos than you’d think.

p80 is very environmental and rapport influenced. In intimate situations it really works on girls you know well, on the street it works well with girls you don’t know. If there is too much going on in small areas, it scares off girls you don’t know so well and makes guys act really gay…

it seems to really target introverted people. even like really old women, little girls, social outcasts and mentally challenged girls get really confident around me on this. doesn’t really target hot chicks unless you already know them or are active in trying to interact with them, but if you ignore a hot chick on this, right away they just take it personal. in fact, if you don’t make a hot chick the center of your focus on this, they kind of take it personal and act as if they can’t even be around you.

• Jeiyt

I would have to say the p80 really helped to build rapport with everyone and I’ve only been living there for a week or so…

I’m a straight shooter, but ever since p80, seriously, people are telling me that I’m making people gay. sorry about that, I just like how it sharpens the mind. and lateley I’ve seen some pretty gay things, but seriously, the p80 only makes me straighter, it’s kind of funny but weird at the same time.

• Jeiyt

p80 i’ve noticed tightens muscles

• Jeiyt

P80 is an interesting Molecule. It is a very assertive molecule which gives you oomph and motivation to take action. Combined with eRone it is very, as said by other members, Militant. Ultimate Status hybrid is with eRone. On its own it is a driving molecule, great for men. It also layers very well with other molecules and can produce fantastic. I encourage everyone to mix it with eRone once to see the respect level.

• KIMBA

I used P80 on its own today,4 sprays. I get the impression this is a much more friendly,refined masculinity than that signalled by P75 which to me seemed much more raw. I felt a certain degree of self confidence ( P75 had a perceptible pop in contrast) and the women at work were unusually friendly but not in a sexual way. The younger men were also extremely friendly - I did not get this vibe from the one alpha male i met however though he was not hostile - just slightly wary. Bear in mind i do not present with an aura of aggressive masculinity by any means normally. I get the impression that this is more a status rather than sexual mone and the effect it gives seems akin to the effects described for IG - though I have not tried IG out yet.

• Placidus

P80 always put me in action and firm mode.

• Gracious