I am attending a new years party with mixed adult & mid 20’s people. I am in my early 20’s & I am trying to find a mix that’s social & gain respect from the adults. I was think IO with a314. I am afraid that a314 might be too intimidating, but the IO will hopefully lighten it up. I mainly care about the respect than social aspect atm. Any ideas?
IO and A314 more or less cancel each other out, so wearing them together in a mix is usually a waste of both products.
Check the store page for A314 - You will see that IO is the product advised for when you need to tone it right down.
IH/IS and A314 is a totally different matter though, or just IS/A314 - both good social/respect mixes where each coponent complements the other nicely.
Go with IG, much better suited for a new years party, A314 is too serious for a young guy like you to be using in a social environment. I agree with mobo as well , A314 and IO seems to send out conflicting signals. IG on its own or IG + P74 would be my recommendation.
For a single mix, Wolf from LAL is an excellent option. I have reason to believe this mix contains P74, epi -rone, and alpha -rone, so it’s very similar to Ghost’s recommendation of IG + P74. At $30 for a 10mL, it’s also a slightly better value.
Hey Mobo!
How would IO & a314 cancel each other out if it’s advertised on a314’s page?
Advised! IO is the product to use to tone-down A314. Or rather, it effectively wrecks it altogether - in fact you get next to nothing from both products.
Its the Alphanol that seems to be the weakening phero here.
my go to androtics mix is IG+P74.this mix is versatile as hell anywhere anytime.light respect with attraction and guys will become buddy buddy with you.for night wear,use abit of enone in the mix.if you prefer standalone go for wolf from lal.it’s an alpha blend but approachable and friendly,also a good social with attraction.and last but not least it’s also a confidence booster.try to dab some just under your nose for maximum selfies
I have used an A314 + IO combo before to some success
Definitely know what Mobo is getting at though with the cancelling out thing
The way I’d describe it, is you still get some A314 effects but the IO completely changes what message it is intended to project
But hey its all experimenting… a rone/nol mix can give that “cool social guy” impression
I’d still go for it
Have you considered mx297?
Mackie
If you want that, IG/IO is a far better combo IMO.
Interesting thread - recently, for me the need of such a like mix has occured also. I repeatedely failed with my choice of mixes on several occasions. Social events, meetings with friends, outings and so forth …
Not so long ago, when I chased my current girlfriend, I relied heavily on
alpha signatures (A314, to which she responds well, paired up with either none/ammo/tuth and a1, sometimes IH).
Within my circle of friends though, those mixes and especially Alpha-stuff or even Ammo does not work so well. It’s just not who I am or who I was when those long-standing friendships initially formed.
(Had a rather disastrous evening last week after christmas with a hefty dose of A314+Ammo+p75 … what in hell was i thinking? Never felt so much scepticism, confusedness and even repulsion from some of my friends)
Will surely use another approach next time, no mones or a lighter, socila mix. Still, when my girl joins us, I’d like to set me apart within the group. I’m thinking of using IG for respect/sociability + IS for positive/friendly vibe
What would u guys say about IG+IS+p75 (2,5 mcg)…is that social enough with maybe the right amount of masculinity/sensuality I so like to radiate?
Curious.. what happened? Heavy shit testing?
Using mones in a group of long-time friends can be tricky, especially status mones. You might hurt some people’s ego…
Yep, heavy shit-testing by one guy especially - actually no wonder here -
he was a friend once, though not very close, often opposing political views/ outlook in general, wich lead to being not so friendly anymore, but still the same circle, you know how it is. He’s some shifty fellow, scheming against me and the like. Fortunately, I’m the better liked in the group so it usually gets him nowhere. I guess he sensed the the shifting dynamics on that evening (mones making me nearly unbearable to even my closest friends) and tried to capitalize on it. Tried to provoke me , defamed me and the like. All very subtle and guised as irony, but some very serious insults. At least thats how I take it if someone questions your convictions, merits, skills and general outlook. Was prepared to punch him. He is taller and broader, but stiff and slow and gutless. I’m rather fit and have some real fighting experience. I demanded he either stops and leaves or I’d make his eyes water.
Ironically, i guess not least because of my mones he then submitted. Sure, he mocked my behaviour, said I was pathetic relying on violence, if I had not the wits for arguement and the like …but he backed down, left with two of the group, 9 rest stayed with me. Went to the toilet and washed down the mones … After we discussed the evening, we agreed that I was overly weird, cocky, someone else, a stranger, seeming sick and so on but that he was by far the greater dick.
Strange evening, felt like 10 years back when being 20. Felt unreal in that I did not feel or realize that I was acting or talking any different than usual.
Woops, A314 + P75 AND Ammo is too much huh? Would’ve guessed so.
As a suggestion: wear some Mx297 next time if you have to win back some of your friends gradually. Even after going all alpha dog on the other dude they will love you. Why do I say this? I’m in a similar situation. Same old friends circle, and I also have one guy that is always subtly trying to provoke me and make me look bad in front of the rest. He’s one of those wanna be alpha’s that needs to feel like he is the best man in the room… Any competition and he gets cranky… With Mx297 on, I’m always the one who looks good in the end, and I don’t even have to play AMOG 
Just laugh all the attacks and shit tests away… it works. Even more effective than uber competitive alpha behaviour… can be interpreted as an act of overcompensation.
The origininal poster should also consider Mx297 by the way! It’s less intimidating and much more on the social side than A314, that’s for sure!
Very true. Normally, that’s what I’d do. Can seem very weak and pathetic when you go through the roof just because of some mockery. But as said, was sort of an overdue culminating of a longer lingering hostility. Situation already seems to turn out in my favour if I judge the reactions so far.
The mones I wore were actually:
3 sprays of A314b
3 sprays of 2,5 p75
3 sprays of Ammo
That’s simply too much I guess, don’t know why I did that, stank like sh… as well.
Well today is new years eve and a my choice for celebration tonight is just some Shine
to get into good mood. Happy new year to you Himeros, and all the other pherofreaks!
Very true. Normally, that’s what I’d do. Can seem very weak and pathetic when you go through the roof just because of some mockery. But as said, was sort of an overdue culminating of a longer lingering hostility. Situation already seems to turn out in my favour if I judge the reactions so far.
The mones I wore were actually:
3 sprays of A314b
3 sprays of 2,5 p75
3 sprays of Ammo
That’s simply too much I guess, don’t know why I did that, stank like sh… as well.
Well today is new years eve and a my choice for celebration tonight is just some Shine
to get into good mood. Happy new year to you Himeros, and all the other pherofreaks!
Yeah I can see that mix go wrong, especially around friends! I remember wearing a A314/b + Ammo + IS mix in a 2:2:2 ratio. Even intimidated my uncle, who is physically AND socially alpha as fuck. He’s the the kind of guy that always shit tests all the new members to the family… With this mix he was quiet around me 
I’m rocking Mx297 solo tonight. Will keep some TUTH in my pocket. Happy new year!
I would consider a314 + ammo would be too strong of a mix?
What’s P74 do?
Don’t know what that is or does?