Try it with something less social!
2 spots of the Malay Jasmine and TUTH/A314 was getting me copious kino off a stalwart lady of Irish literature just a couple of hours back - and that’s the second time she’s got seriously touchy/feely on me with a phero/botanicals mix.
Oh, so Hedione is actually considered something cheap compared with Jasmine Fragrance? I didn’t know that.
If I get some Jasmine, what results should I look for? Should I mix it with perfume alcohol? Or can it just be applied pure?
I probably missed this in a post somewhere are you dabbing your hedione or spraying?
Could I get a link to that Malaysia jasmine. I’m trying to figure out which one to get.
With the Hedione, its spraying.
With the Jasmine its a roll-on or spots off the end of a glass rod.
This is the Malay Jasmine:
JASMINE ATTAR PERFUME OIL (3ML) | eBay
I’m actually getting to like it a lot, once it settles down
I’m just using a couple of spots at about 4-o’clock to my ears, sometimes a third spot to the middle of my throat. I think that gives the best carry-off with throat apps.
Man, I received my perfumer’s alcohol today (Hedione will be in a different shipment from another supplier since it was easier to have alcohol separately delivered from inside my country because of HazMat issues with customs). However the data sheet MSDS of the perfumer’s alcohol sounds like a toxic product with which any contact should be avoided at all cost, including skin contact, like flush the area and consult a doctor. I understand one should not drink the thing, but if the point of this product is to use it as a dilution base 1:3 for perfume making, and it is sold as perfume making alcohol, is it safe, or will I turn into a toxic pumpkin? Any thoughts from those who already used perfumer’s alcohol and did look at the MSDS?
Well, I got confused searching about all this and with the prices, so I decided to purchase one of the designer fragrances that supposedly include Hedione.
I went to a shop to test Eau Sauvage, I liked the smell, but something about it smelled too old for me. So I went for the next option CK One. I tested it and I liked it, plus it was the cheaper among Eau Sauvage, Acqua di Gio, Invictus, 1 Million, etc.
I bought a 100 Ml + 20 Ml bottles for 42.12 euros. Very cheap considering the cost of the others.
I am not sure how to best test my results with it.
Start with one spray and keep your eyes and ears open. 
You think 1 spray of CK One would be enough to start testing? That would be way less than what most people use as perfume I would assume? If you think 1 spray of this Eau de Toilette is at least somewhat likely to yield some results that makes me very hopeful Mobocaster.
BUt then it’s hard to know which hits are coming from the pheromone receptors and which are coming from the amazing fragrance that emanates from these perfumes haha =)
PS: Where do I apply that spray?
Yes - Or at least its a baseline to start testing with. You then go up and down over a range of doses as the situation and any money involved requires.
Evaluating hits is something that comes with time and practice, so you need to work on that too but I’d reckon that Hedione (and natural alternatives) will be phenomenally active at levels well below the threshold of scent.
Do you really need to be told where to apply cologne! 
Don’t get too hung-up on app points - so long as it has good circulation to promote diffusion and is open to the air to diffuse, its a viable spot. Also see the excellent app point sticky.
2 sprays 2x TUTH and 3 spots Swiss Jasmine.
Random Polish woman, 30s, slim, tanned, attractive, just decided my tie was good but “not perfect” and re-tied it for me - Carefully and pleasantly! 
just wondering if it matters to dilute the hedione or not? i got mine in today and i used a few dabs on my wrist/neck/behind ears. seems to have some subtle effects when paired with my dial magnetic however it’s kind of tough to say for sure until i do more testing
I’d say dilute it. It’s how it works in perfumes after all, diluted with alcohol. The supposed effects and traditional use in parfumery of hedione is also not so much it’s scent itself, but a way of providing wholeness/harmony or binding to a mix. It’s said that some scent-compositions first come to life with added hedione or IsoEsuper.
I’ve have used between 5-10 small drops of hedione in a togo bottle filled to approximately 4ml and it added nicely to my pherocologne
I’ve been dabbing the hedione. A couple to the chest and one behind each ear. Usually cover with dabs of Eau Sauvage behind the ears.
Seems to have an effect.
Note that in perfume, I understand the concentration can reach 35%
Of the scent concentrate, not the entire volume of the perfume. Just to clarify for those that consider adding hedione for the hype and don’t know already.
1 spray IJ, 15mcg P93 and two spots ASAQ Jasmine.
Two teenageers sat beside me 16-18 - the first was into an immediate DIHL/stare-out before her ass hit the seat and her friend (back to me) was quickly and very decidedly fidgety in her seat - that kind-of leg/ass action that suggests things are a little bit hot, looking round to check me-out constantly, hair flicks and she’s very fair skinned in an off the shoulder top - Her shoulders/upper arms have got a lot redder since she sat down. Her friend is more difficult to judge - pretty girl but too much makeup/fake tan.
Now normally IJ would be driving girls like this away, THe P93 might help quite a bit but I’m recognising quite a bit more comfort/moderation than I’d otherwise have.
Oh and they are now talking about/comparing/checking-out tits, and not the feathered variety!
Brazillian fallout tonight. Waiting for her to finish work.
From the moment I cam-in and she snuck-up behind me then grabbed me, she’s been very very openly flirting/dishing-up the kino whilst positively dancing about me.
Now she’s normally flirty in a look-don’t touch way when I meet her at work but every time I’ve met her with Jasmine/Hedione, she’s been far more physical and extrovertly playful. Also her boss is much more relaxed/pleasant - greeting me with a wink/big smile that maybe says something too.
So today its 2xIJ to the throat, 3 drops A314 in the usual places and 4 1.5cm spots of swiss Jasmine - 2 to the throat, 2 to the back of my head.
Tell me I will not be too late home - I still have plenty to do before going on holiday on Saturday morning! :o
I have received my hedione and have prepared a 33% mix in perfumer’s alcohol. The first time I have used it the smell was marvelous. I will eventually tell the story in my journal. Then the next day, volume in bottle seems to have dropped by 50% and now the thing only smelled strong alcohol upon application, no jasmine odor whatsoever. I have used teflon tape and electrical tape to seal the togo bottle when I made the mix… And I would think alcohol is more volatile than hedione. However the funny thing is that the thing is still wet an cold on skin 30 minutes after application and still no jasmine odor. No trace of leak in my pocket. Anyone has experienced the same problem? I am more and more tempted to attempt pure dabs instead on wasting product this way. Or is it possible i am spraying almost pure hedione with leftover alcohol and that very concentrated hedione smells squat? That’s the feeling I got when I smelled the pure hedione bottle I received, no smell at all before I had diluted it 33%.
So, as I understand it, Jasmine is the same as Hedione, but Hedione is artifically made and Jasmine is natural? And if I buy this Jasmine, for instance this one:
JASMINE ATTAR PERFUME OIL (3ML) | eBay
I should dilute it before usage? What happens if I use it without diluting? And which is the “best” product for attracting women? Hedione or Jasmine? Do you have a link so I can buy and try?
I use two dabs directly out of the bottle for the hedione. It has the faintest smell to me.
Is a dab like a drop or is it more than that?