"REVERSE" Phero guide???

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Hello all, let me start by saying how helpful reading all the guides from all you phero experts has been!

It seems that everyone happens on this phero-world for different reasons; they come in with different expectations and goals that pheromones will do.

I think most people are men (or women) who want to help their odds in the dating or night club scene. They want to use pheros to up interest in them with the population of the opposite sex as a whole.

For the above mentioned situation, there is a world of information here.

But some people, as in my case, happen upon pheromones for a different reason; not to up their odds with all females, but simply to assist in the attraction of that ONE special girl only. I myself ended up here upon attempting to reconcile a 4 year relationship that had gone sour.

I have had a few shots at this, with little to no luck. But I think I may had been coming on to strong to early, both with my phero choice (-none) and my “strategy.”

It seems to be obvious that different pheros work for different targets, because different girls are looking for different things in a mate. For example; my ex is a very shy, sweet, soft spoken female. Now If I went out with her bathed in Instant Jerk and Turn up the Heat, she would probably be disgusted because that’s not what she is looking for. Now if I went out with a girl who wanted a “bad boy” that combo might work well.

What I was wondering is if any of you knew of a sort of “reverse” phero guide. One based on a specific target type. such as:

Target: shy, sweet, not very sexual by nature
Use: Instant Honesty, Instant Openess
Stay away from, or use with caution: Turn up the heat

Does anyone else think this is a good idea?

I’m sure that all this info is probably here somewhere, but It seems like its scattered and fragmented throughout this and the smartmones site.

Maybe some of you phero-gods like tisha23 can comment on this idea.

I’ve also read here that pheros can affect different races differently, maybe this could be included?

If I knew all this info I would compile it myself, but I’m very new and don’t want to steer anyone the wrong way. Maybe I could start to compile this info with the assistance, or review of someone like tisha23

I just know that this type of guide would be very helpful to me, and most likely others. I’d love to contribute to this wonderful community!

Comments?

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Best of luck with it all as seems like a worthwhile project your working on.
I think your reconing is fine as far as your interest in the less dominant pheromones for your target.
I would probably go for some Instant Female Magic some TAA and later in the date add a little P83 . Starting off with a base of Instant Gentleman or one drop A314 could be interesting. :slight_smile:

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here’s a good read on the effects on different races: Analysis on each pheromone and its effect on different races

phero use also depends on how you carry yourself, your environment, etc. i find that instead of reverse engineering the target, it’s a bit more successful to take into account all the underlying factors (again, your personality, environment, the target) and forward engineer a good phero mix.

as with all things, your mileage may vary.

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I’m not a God … I’m a Goddess :stuck_out_tongue:

Ok Now that we have that straightened out …

You were with this girl for 4 years and that is a little different.

Even though she is not conscious of it she knows your natural mone signature. Attraction was already present or she would not have been with you for 4 years. Sometimes it takes repeated exposure for those closet to us to react. They have preconceived notions and while mones will make them “feel” and react, it takes longer for them to process the feeling.

I think your correct in staying away from the heavier sexual products like TUTH. It would just make you look like a horn dog

Alot depends on why you broke up to. I understand you may not want to share that but how does she feel about you now. Is she mad at you for something or did things just grow stale.

If she is pissed, displeased, upset, at you for something I would go with IG, IFM, Ishine and IH

If things just got stale or she wanted to spread her wings or something like that then I would go with A little AMMO IH and Ishine.

If its both of course you cant wear all those and I would suggest
AMMO IFM and IH

Now if you feel she started to lack respect for you or not take your relationship seriously then some A314 as Terry mentioned would be good but since she is shy and sweet she may feel that you have moved beyond her. IG will cover the respect part if needed.

Im am a bit torn on the P83… Terry can you elaborate on that, What does P83 do for you ?

Tisha

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Also, if there is something she discovered about you that made her realise you are not ‘The One’ for her, you would first have to resolve that to have a chance with her again.

From what I see around me, men in general are a lot more willing to get back with an ex than women. I usually see it as a closed off chapter. I would need a pretty good reason to consider dating an ex again, and be sure that he was not just sexually attracted but really had deep feelings for me.

I think with nones, it can seem like you are out for just sex. That could make a girl more cautious, especially if she is not interested in sex without love. I like the suggestion of Instant Gentleman and the socials.

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I agree with everything Tisha said.

To comment on the p83, I would stay away from it. at least at first.

P83 tends to make people do what they really want deep down without a thought to consequences. It doesn’t sound like this girl is seeing you in your best light right now, so maybe right now she doesn’t feel she wants to be with you. It may actually speed up the process of you two breaking the bond forever. for this reason i would stay away from it.

If however, you start to turn on the charm, and head back into her good graces, this might be a great non -none option to help restart a sexual relationship.

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Wow thanks guys! (and goddesses) :slight_smile:

So much to comment on…

We broke up because we are both college students and I moved to a city about 1.5 hours away to start at a new school. No big fight or cheating or anything. We both kinda took each other for granted and after a few months we both just let our relationship slip away. We both had trouble prioritizing time for each other, we both became very busy. But our parents live in the same town and we are often home for weekends and breaks.

Here is a quote from another thread on me and her starting with our first meeting after the break-up;

I considered the Instant Gentleman , but I am 4 years older than her, and the description says

“Also useful when you want to seem older and wiser than your actual age.”

With my next order I was thinking of getting some A314.

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Tisha, I have only been doing some forum research on the P83, and from what i have learned it appears like it sorta turns up the heat in a non threatening manner when added to a pheromone application.
I have seen some very good reveiws from users who have added P83 to their nols and even Androstenone applications.

I am thinking of ordering some and experimenting with it as something to add to my socialising mixes, and also to see how my female friends may also relate to its influence.

I have not yet made up my mind as to what strength would be best suited for me, But from what i have seen it appears that the P83 is certainly a dynamic substance.

And if it tends to reveal someones true colours then well and good i would say, what will be will be, when all said and done, at the end of the day.

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Oh, well then. Your situation isn’t nearly as dire as I was imagining it to be.

In your situation, my mix would be:

mix part 1:
A314 x1
p83 15-20mcg

mix part 2:
CTTM x2
IFM x1(to back of neck)
or
IO x2
IH x2
IFM x1(to back of neck)

step 3: THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP
your date: I actually feel a little excited for you, because from what you described in that second posts says that she still has interest in you. Your work is 80% over(no, the other 20% isn’t pheromones).

The problem with your last date, was that you went to dinner. a rather hands off event, and if the right amount of comfort isn’t there, it can be rather sterile. Next time you go out with her do something that involves you touching her.

Ideas that have worked for me have been going to the driving range, go karts, and my personal favorite, ice skating. Ice skating is great because lots of people just simply can’t do it. that means she will cling to you for dear life for the entire time you are there. when she falls down, she will laugh hysterically, and It wont ever come across her mind you are trying to “pull moves” on her. Overall it will just be much easier for her to slip back into being comfortable touching you, laughing with you, and in general enjoying life together. Thats why you were dating her to begin with right?

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I think your best bet would be to go heavy on the socials and very light (or none) on the -none. In this situation you want her to remember the good times you had, the connections. I know there could’ve been physical connections too, but you can add -none later if it goes well. What you want to do on this date is get her to remember how great you are, not that you were smokin hot. (although it helps..)

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Thanks Terry I can see P83 after the first couple of get togethers as it brings out her desires more. Inhibitions can be left behind. When I use it I find myself saying the next day. “Good Goddess, I cant believe I did/said that” LOL I think since this giel is shy she needs to be eased into that feeling. JMO

I wanna just remind Damon that you dont mix these in the same bottle. Layer them if you decide to go with this. I would keep in more simple though and go with Ammo IH and Ishine.

Tisha