When you say 10% are pheromones and 90% is you, that means that you have to talk to the person you want to see the effect…am I right?
Yeah you do have to engage the person in conversation and be cogruent with your actions.
that’s correct. let’s just say pheros open the door but you’ll need to do the walking. some guys try it out and they go stand around expecting women to flock to them. this type of thinking only leads to failure and doubt. what you have to do is be proactive. be aware of reactions around you. pheros give you an edge - for example, allowing you to see the obvious IOIs from women, but you’re going to need to initiate and talk to them. be funny and cocky on top of pheros will be deadly!
Surely the 10% to 90% mix means that if you initiate the first conversation and are congruent in the way you WANT to act then you probably don’t need pheromones at all…?
As the 90% of it is you anyway, whats a little 10%?
Being congruent is a factor in pheromone use especially when using a product like A314 that gives off a strong leadership signal. I do think people are over emphasizing congruency though.
I will put this simply, You need to be open to the reactions pheromones cause.
Instant Openness is the easiest to explain this with.
Suppose you wear it and go to a club. Then you sit in a dark corner and dont look open to approachable. When someone says Hi you just give them half your attention or ignore them. Your not working with your pheromones but against them and people will take that as a signal your not interested.
Now wear the same amount of Instant Openness, Mingle around the room. You dont need to speak first. Look approachable. When someone acknowledges you with a IOI, smile acknowledge them back and it gives them the que to approach.
Being congruant dosnt mean changing who you are or being something your not. It dosnt mean you should act out of character. It means you need to be open and willing to respond to the reactions your pheromones induce.
This theory fluctuates, Yes it is a certain percentage you and a certain percentage the pheromones but at least for me and most people I know who use pheromones it can range depending on the environment and circumstances from 10% pheromones to 90% me to 50% pheromones and 50% me. The point is not to expect pheromones to do it all for you. I will admit sometimes they do do it all for me but I dont rely on that. Sometimes I will just plop my hair on top of my head, no makeup on, no shower, and just run down to get some coffee. I spray on my pheromones and really dont act congruant and they still produce hits. Usually I am in a hurry so I am not open to them at this point so they go no where but they occur.
Tisha
What is 10%? Watch the olympics. The ones on the podium, are the ones that had that extra 10%. Everyone else gave nearly their all, but others gave all 100%. That extra 10% gets you the gold. 10% of a business can make a large difference, especially to corporations.
It’s not everything, but sometimes it’s the details that matter the most, when everyone else is mostly on the same page.
You can consider it 67/33, 75/25, 59/41…it doesn’t really matter. The point is that you can do it without pheromones, but pheromones can’t do it without you. So if you are going to use pheromones, make sure to back them up. If you don’t need pheromones (I think ThomasLavoie has declared a couple times that he doesn’t need synthetic pheromones..) then you don’t need them. Whatever floats your boat. Me personally, that extra 10% is important, not because I don’t get any action without pheromones, but because I enjoy the greater intensity of interaction, essentially my quality of interaction is increased, and in this age of being in your own world due to TV/cellphones/computers/etc…I really do appreciate it when I have a chance to genuinely connect with people, sexual or not.
i’ve never really bought into that “10% mones, 90% u” equation. like Tisha mentioned, the ratio fluctuates quite a bit. in my experience the effect was never as little as 10% to begin with. there are times i feel they work so well that it’s almost 70% mones and 30% me. all i have to do is be friendly and the interaction just runs on its own.
and when ur targets are drunk? i can almost say it’s 90% mones and 10% me lol. example: went to a get together last weekend with megadose P74, TAC and CTTM2 and within 30mins of arriving i was kissed (one on the cheeck, one on the mouth) by 2 girls and got my ass pinched and slapped and grabbed and had the guys asking me questions and stuff. i didn’t do squat, i didn’t even have to initiate anything except reply ‘nice to meet u too’. (i didn’t know anybody at the party)
i remember i walked past a table that was part of the group but i didn’t know so i didn’t say hi. a girl from the table (half drunk?) threw a paperball at my back to get my attention. so naturally i went over to introduce myself with the table. the girl who threw the paperball caressed my face with her hand and smiled warmly as i was saying ‘nice to meet u’.
that was ALL mones, i know if i didn’t have that megadose mix on that girl probably wouldn’t even have noticed me walking by lol.
Maybe congruence is a ‘hygiene factor’ - you need enough of it that your phero signature makes sense. I would also bet that of the people who are drawn to explore phero use (at this stage in the process of diffusion into public awareness), congruence will be a limiting factor for a disproportionate number of users, particularly male users.
For a girl, looking open and approachable might be enough. For most men, a little bit more than that is required.
So maybe that is why there has been so much emphasis here over the years on body language, posture and voice - not to mention ‘game’ (It’s worth reading all MHarris’s old posts, particularly those on voice).
EXCELLENT QUOTE. Carve in stone. Put in FAQ. Use as sig. etc etc.
I’ll second that motion. 
I may be a rookie and all but from what I experience the first day of using ammo was no 10 percent. Im not a shy person at all and have been trying to get with this girl forever. If the results vary then ok and if I got super lucky then ok but I doubt it. These Pheros have some kick and im givin it at least a 20 % credit. But then again im just a newbie who got a hit 1st night using the stuff.
Yeah sometimes pheros can really rock. The 90/10 thing also omits the environment as well, which is very important!
In a place where there is no vibe to start with, pheros are less useful. if the social/environmental conditions are right, they can really rock. I have in fact had a few days on phero-autopilot recently, I’d have to say it was 90% pheros and 10% me. But of course the truth is more non-linear than that, you can get a really good mesh or symbiosis with your pheromones and then everything just rocks, and you can do no wrong. Sounds like you bonded with the pheros straight away, Casanova4win. Like if you hit it off with a person really well straight away, and he became your amazing wingman who steered you in the right direction every time…
You are absolutely correct. I would agree 1000 percent.