Good luck. Remember the dark side has cookies. Girl scout cookies at that
Good luck!
On an optimistic note, Friend to Lover conversion IS very much possible. As Steve has helped you see, the first step is recognition to a reference point (friend zone) so you can employ the right plan.
I have converted a friend to lover and I have also failed in doing that (and ruined the relationship too). So, as M&M mentioned, be careful - sometimes it’s not worth doing it. On the other hand, life without risk is not a life. Just be sure you know what you’re getting into.
In my friend to lover conversion story, pheromones certainly did help but you still have DO the right things - touch her, isolate her, bring her back to your place (and load up on the NONE once there!)
Cheers
So, many things didn’t go well. The concert was general admission and so we got there an hour and a half before doors opened andvit was already sold out.
so we chilled at the mall. I think I got a few hits. Had a few random girls get giggly when briefly chatting
Oh did I mention after I applied my ammo I knocked it off the dresser and it shattered?
There goes a days wages. ..
Carpeted floors are your friend.
being a college student who gets 25 hours of work a month isn’t ![]()
So what else happened? That’s about the most incomplete report I ever read!![]()
Yeah, sorry, it was 2 AM and I was typing on mmy phone. I’ll update the last couple days in my journal, I’ve got some great stuff ![]()
I’ve broken out of it several times. Granted I never turned them into anything more than hookups or ONS but I was able to just get out of the friendly vibe and make things a bit more sexual. This, IME, takes a little longer than a couple of weeks but the changes in her mind seem more natural.
I mentioned in there that in no way is this a guideline but being “that guy” plenty of times got me fed up. Nowadays I still get there with some girls but a lot of the ones I meet now even if attraction isn’t there know me as a fun guy to be around.
Rad, Steve, M&M, and the others are completely spot on. It’s not methods or mones that will get you there, it’ll be how YOU value yourself. I used to make time all the time for my female friends at a moments beckon call. To be fair, I was like that with everyone. However I knew that I can still be a good guy and not lose who I was deep inside, but still keep sexual tension and keep attraction there even as friends.
Whenever I’m out, I will always talk to everyone, I’ve walked in with groups of girls, or just my guy friends and I literally will meet and be fun with everyone I know. This builds a lot of notoriety for you and if you do it naturally you’re just going to have fun and attract more women that way. Nobody wants a clown, no one wants that overly drunk guy, or the one that’s just vyeing for attention. People want the one everyone’s laughing with, flirting, and everyone is comfortable around.
I can tell you that if you look in my Journal, most of the guys know this that replied, I literally would have 3-4 good looking women talking to me and laughing and having fun. Am I being a pimp and bagging all of them, absolutely not, some have SO’s some are just friends, and some are potentials, but they all get treated equally and all love me. Have guys looked at me in disbelief on why that’s the case, all the time. I get asked if I’m bagging any of them, and simply I say no. Do some of them initial physical contact with me, yes. Are some affectionate, absolutely. Do you know what that does for me even though I’m not hooking up with any of them? Girls I meet already know my reputation, I already am at the comfort stage because there is already a DHV there. Some of these girls are HOTTER than some of those girls and the curiosity is already there about me, my job is half done, all I gotta do is not fuck it up.
This might sound like a dick thing to say, and I’m not completely immune to girl problems, but I’ve disqualified a lot of women I’ve met just because we’re not compatible and I’m not going to waste time. I’ve also hooked up with some and didn’t kiss and tell and women know that that kind of info won’t leak from me.
I know I can be picky because I worked on myself first, and still continue to do so. This is what I would suggest to you is to take all the advice given here. Be busy, do your own thing, because you SHOULD. You shouldn’t do it as a condition of trying to be more outgoing/popular, you should do it cause from personal experiences, it’s damn fun. I used to be the one who would stay home cause I was too shy/scared/unmotivated, now I can go and call someone up, go out, have a great time, and meet some girls in the process. At that point, girls will be hitting on you, and asking you why you never have time to hang out with them. I get it now, and I USED to be the one that says that.
I’m going to move all further updates to my journal. You can shut this one down, if you’d like