The OFFICIAL MX466-MX470 Discussion Thread

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX466-MX470?

This MX Pack is a 5-bottle bundle, value priced at $49.95 for Reporting Users. Official Store Announcement thread here.

To avoid influencing your feedback, we say as little as possible about effects or specifics. Here’s what we can tell you:

Love Pack 1 is intended for anyone who wants a little more love and warmth in their life. You can safely wear these mixes in most social situations. If one of these mixes were to sell at retail, they would range between $20 - 40 apiece.

Currently available in a two separate flavors:

MX466 - MX470: Vanilla
MX487 - MX491: Blue Summer

Status: Currently in Production

Feedback Embargo: In Effect. MORE reports needed to unlock THIS thread!

Fragrance: Vanilla
Audience: For All Humankind (Particularly Ladies)
Formulator: Androtics
Related Products: MX487 - MX491

Release Date: Nov. 2014
Production Run: First Batch
Pricing Convention: Read here about Bias-Corrected First Run Pricing. “How Much Does An MX Cost?”

Get MX here: Androtics Direct :: Experimental Test Mixes :: MX Mix Packs :: MX466 - MX470

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to “staying power,” or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency- How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage- Sillage refers to your “vapor trail.” Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

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MX466
4 sprays to the neck

Nov. 29, 2014
First time trying it.
At a party with friends and acquaintances and their young kids (initially).

Fragrance: The vanilla was not bad. It kinda smelled a bit plain, like vanilla ice cream or nilla wafers. Kinda desserty. A little boring for my taste. I don’t prefer it on its own, but it might be a nice addition to tone down an overly sharp or strong fragrance (maybe a grapefruit gone wrong, or something).

Selfies: Didn’t really notice much this time around. Maybe a bit introverted and mellow, but only very slightly. Perhaps a tad of that p96 sort of endearing feel.

Upon entering, I was physically besieged by 2 of my pint-sized buddies, an 8-year-old girl and her 10-year-old brother. After a minute, they ran off to play with their friends, but soon came back to launch their bodies at my upper back, and wrap themselves around my legs! This is not unusual behavior for them, but they are not generally so energetic about it, and I’ve never known them to abandon fun with friends to surprise-attack me! They only called off the barrage when their friends threatened to exclude them from the next activity.

I joined the adults, some of whom were starting up a board game. 5 of us played: 3 ladies, an 11-year-old boy, and a married man. My 10-year-old buddy weaseled his way into teaming up with one of the ladies, and didn’t seem to have any more particular draw toward me. The married man, however, was looking to get himself into trouble. He sat right next to me, and that dude was macking on me majorly for the next 2 hours! The turd’s wife was in the next room supervising their kids! He ran the whole gambit from sly and coy to feisty and saucy, and showing off. I happen to think that one of the most ignoble things a person can do is play the field when they are in a monogamous life partnership. I didn’t want to embarrass anyone, though, so I acted as though he weren’t doing what he was doing. I ignored his efforts, and treated him like any random person. This certainly frustrated him, and he eventually started acting a little spitefully toward me. His wife finally appeared and decided it was time to get the kids home, so he left unceremoniously. He needs to get his shit together.

Aside from that, I didn’t really notice much. Just the usual hugs from old faces and polite small-talk with acquaintances. I hung out with people late into the night without reapplying. Perhaps a smaller setting might be better to observe effects.

I don’t think the effects lasted for very long, though there weren’t very obvious effects to observe. The smell was so mild, it seemed to have faded completely after only a few hours. It couldn’t have had very good dispersion, and it certainly didn’t have much staying power. I didn’t get any compliments on the smell, which is usually one way that I gage target effectiveness. But, of course, men (especially those in relationships) are less likely to comment on another woman’s fragrance.

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MX467
4 sprays to the neck

Dec. 3, 2014
Laid back setting with 6 friends

Fragrance: rather flat. Not much depth, I barely smelled anything at all. No complexity of scent, not much warmth. It faded pretty quickly.

Selfies: nothing, really. No noticeable change in emotion or perception. Slight anxiety 3 hours after application.

I had intended to do test #2 with MX466 tonight, but I accidentally left it in my other jacket. So I grabbed some MX467 instead. It seemed like a pretty normal night. One person said I seemed less stressed than usual, but I had just shared some very good news. Nobody commented on how I smelled or looked, nobody paid me any extra attention. Of course, people talked about things that were important to them, and we enjoyed hanging out, but nothing out of the ordinary, or particularly geared toward me.

Conclusion: I think this one might be the placebo.

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MX466
4 sprays to the neck initially
2 sprays to the wrists 2 hours later

Dec. 6, 2014
At a party at a brewery with 3 friends I know very well (one of them being A Touch Of Sunset, and the rest were all strangers to me, but they mostly knew each other

As soon as I walked in, Sunset gave me a hug and raved about how good I smelled. Very good sign. To me, this means that the mones are making me olfactorily noticeable. Personally, I’m a bit indifferent toward basic vanilla, but the mones in this mix give the smell a bit of an edge so it’s not as boring.

I did notice, this time, that I definitely felt cozy and cuddly. There weren’t enough seats where we were, so I took my “Little Sister’s” seat (she’s not really my little sister, we just decided one day that we were sisters), and she sat on my lap. She’s a 28-y/o brunette. She’s usually kinda stiff and uncomfortable with physical contact in general, but tonight she was perfectly happy and content to hang out on my lap.

I felt a bit lovey, so I rubbed her back a bit and kept feeling her hair. I actually noticed hair a lot that night, which is blatantly characteristic of a particular molecule I’ve tested a bit. I played with my “Little Sis’s” hair, I complemented Sunset on her hair, I stared for a while (hopefully not uncomfortably) at the bangs of the girl next to me, I stared at the dreads of the guy across from me, and I marveled at the gorgeous flaming red curls of the hotter-than-me bitch who arrived some time later. And, of course, I had to rave to our waitress about how much I loved her bubblegum-pink dreads.

This mix is a bit introverting, for sure. I didn’t know most of the people there, so I knew I needed to turn on the charm. But I just couldn’t do it! I just wanted to cuddle with my Sis and enjoy everyone’s company! It’s like I couldn’t bring myself to be outgoing and engaging at all. Complete mental block. But then alcohol happened, and that fixed the problem. I was laughing and socializing in no time.

One guy in particular moved seats so he was sitting across from me (that’s the dude with dreads…he had been previously sitting far away). Any time he looked at me, he’d get a little nervous, and he’d sometimes opt to address the girl next to me (he was meeting both of us for the first time) when he seemed like he was about to say something to me. I recognized this as an IOI, and he probably felt like the girl next to me was a bit more accessible, or closer to his league, or something. So I busted through that and made him talk to me. We were laughing and smiling in no time! Despite his nerves, we seemed to have pretty good chemistry! If my attention drifted, he’d default back to addressing the other girl, but I noticed him making deliberate efforts to win back my attention. Not sure if it was the MX466, but this is the second time that a guy has given me strong IOI’s and fought for my attention while I was wearing it.

2 hours after application, and with 2 glasses of mead in me, I applied the 2 extra sprays (because alcohol decided it was a good idea, so why the hell not?) to my wrists under the table (slick move, eh?). Dreads dude invited me to a future party at his place, and really wanted me there! He kept checking back with me to make sure I was really going to come. My answer continued to be yes. After I got home that night, I realized that he neglected to get any sort of contact info for me, and I forgot to offer any! Lol, I guess he’ll have to hunt me down through mutual contacts!

I don’t know when it actually started, but around the 5 or 6-hour mark, I realized that the mones had given me a headache. I knew it was the mones and not the alcohol, because I became particularly averse to whiffs of what I was wearing. I washed my app points when I got home, and the headache started to fade. I think I noticed this the last time I wore MX466, but I didn’t pay attention to it. I’m wondering if this is a crash, or if there is some sort of undesirable break-down happening.

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Thanks Miss Dragon!

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MX468
4 sprays to neck/chest

Dec. 13, 2014
Laid back setting with 2 friends at a house with friend’s family milling around

Fragrance: Warmer than MX467, not as warm as MX466. Had a bit of a synthetic smell, almost like vanilla car freshener. A bit chemical-y. I couldn’t tell if I liked it or not.

Selfies: Definitely not as introverting as MX466. I almost didn’t know what to do with myself. I felt social and casual, yet for some reason I felt an inclination toward posturing. I had to keep reminding myself to not do or say anything that might make others feel alienated. I could feel a tendency toward hogging the spotlight, but I hope I kept myself in check so that others didn’t catch on.

Some people were going to hang out at Fangirl’s house. It’s about a 20 min drive, and Uke Friend and I live near each other, so we carpooled. He and his girlfriend are taking a break from their relationship at the moment, so he’s been giving me some more friend time lately. Applied the mones just before getting in his car, so the sig was pretty fresh and confined for the first 20 min. He and I have both had some pretty heavy topics occupying us lately, so we definitely got into deep waters conversationally. Not sure how the mones influenced the interaction. I definitely didn’t feel any particular bonding. But I also wasn’t aloof. I ended up saying more than I had intended to, but I felt a bit emotionally sterile. There wasn’t quite as much understanding/agreement between us as there usually is. Heh was expressing some concerns about a future situation, and I offered a bit of advice and perspective. He is usually very receptive to my input, but this time he just flat out told me he thought I was wrong. I tried to rephrase things to better express what I meant, but I felt like I just couldn’t find the words to accurately convey my thoughts. Actually, most of the night I felt like I wasn’t expressing myself very well. I had a hard time coming up with the words to say what I meant.

Fangirl lives with her large family, so they were generally milling about while the 3 of us hung out. None of our other friends showed up. I wasn’t feeling particularly engaging, but I wasn’t entirely unsocial. I felt like I wanted to chat with some of Fangirl’s siblings, but I had absolutely no inspiration about what to say or how to go about it. So I mostly just avoided eye contact. Kinda awkward, I know. My actions were in opposition to my intentions.

One of Fangirl’s brothers has a bit of a crush on me. Not something he’d be inclined to do anything about, but he tends to hover and be ever-so-slightly admiring and show-offy. We have a lot of similar interests. I don’t know how old he actually is, but based on his birth order, I am quite certain he’s a bit young for me. Somewhere in his early 20’s.

He pretty much didn’t care or pay attention to me tonight, until he went to fetch a ping-pong that had fallen behind the futon I was sitting on. He had to lean right behind me, and I’m pretty sure he got exposed to my cloud. This is probably 2.5 hours after application. After that moment, he pretty deliberately stayed in orbit of me the rest of the night. In my peripheral vision, I saw him unabashedly watching me. I was to the side and a bit behind him, but he had his head fully turned toward me for a few minutes straight. It’s as if that moment of entering my cloud flipped a switch in him. He eventually abandoned his ping-pong game to sit at our table and watch us play the game we were playing. We invited him to join in with us, but he declined. He really didn’t talk or interact in any way, just sat and watched. He eventually must’ve felt a little awkward sitting silently at our table while he watched us have fun, and he got up and laid on a couch a few feet away. Nobody else was in the room by that time, only the 4 of us, so he was just hanging out on the couch by himself for a while. He doesn’t normally act this awkwardly. When Uke Friend and I decided it was time to head home, the brother journeyed up to the front door with us. He hung out near the entry way as we were putting on our shoes and coats and saying our goodbyes. He still didn’t interact or say anything, just stayed in orbit. It’s like my cloud made him the reluctant victim of an invisible tether. Strange.

Uke Friend and I did some more in-depth and personal talking on the ride back. Still didn’t feel much bonding.

I definitely don’t have this one figured out. I’ll do some more testing, but unless I unearth some secret for wielding this one, I’m not so sure it will become a favorite.

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MX469
4 sprays to neck/jawline

Dec. 17, 2014
Hanging out with 5 friends

Fragrance: The vanilla was on the mild side. Had some warm notes to it. Even though the scent was mild, the fragrance lingered well.

Selfies: Subtle, not real noticeable. I think I felt an initial softening. Not exactly introverting, not exactly mellowing.

Definitely had bonding effects. This one seemed to gather people around me, but not in an irresistible magnetic way, more like a cozy nesting. It seemed to make people talkative, but not in a manic IO way, and not a soul-bearing IH way. Just a pleasant sharing way, knowing that people care about the things you have to say, even if it’s not exciting or important. I didn’t personally feel much need to talk, I just enjoyed the togetherness. It might be good to use in prickly family environments. Maybe I’ll try it at Christmas!

The effects were definitely not intense, they were subtle. Like when one person with a headache had been insisting on going to bed, he instead cozied up and hung out a little longer. When a married couple knew that their better judgement would be to go home and get some sleep, they instead wavered until deciding to initiate a low-intensity board game. And it was probably the most friendly, considerate gameplay we’ve ever had.

This seems to be the most stable mix in this series that I’ve tried so far. I haven’t gotten to MX470 yet, though. I’ll have to play with the dosages and environments to see if this is a good strength in other situations, or if the dosing needs to be pushed.

I started to feel a bit tired and drawn at roughly the 2-hour mark. I wonder if this has a hint of TAA in it.

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Oh you dratted embargo.

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Amendment to MX469 on Dec. 17

There was definitely soul-bearing going on! At one point, we transitioned from regrettable drinking stories into troubled upbringings and the failures of our parents! We were gathered together pretty closely at that point, each person engrossed in what the other was saying, and everyone felt free to speak up. It didn’t feel heavy or intense, so that’s probably why I didn’t recall it as being soul-bearing.

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Great posts yes we’ve got them Miss Dragon!

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We appreciate your full attention on the MX466 and MX487 pack. These will be part of a planned special offer release post New Year. Special pricing as well. Much checking ongoing to get it all done up in the shop so the orders go through properly. We’ll have more to say on this later.

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MX469
3 sprays to neck

Dec. 30, 2014
Family meeting

Fragrance: this time, the smell seemed a bit musky, but not like a warm tone. Like a mild cool-toned musk, if that makes sense. It had a little bit of that synthetic smell.

I’m not really finding this one to be particularly useful in the situations I’m using it in. I put on the 3 sprays just before walking into a meeting with my dad, brother, uncle, grandma, and some medical professionals. As I hugged my grandma, she commented on the fragrance and said it smelled nice. Trust me, if she disliked it, she would’ve said so. I felt the effects myself, but just ever so mildly. It was slightly pleasant, slightly endearing. We were all cooped up in a room together for a half hour before the meeting, so there should’ve been plenty of time for effects to take hold. But during the meeting, people got upset with each other, arguing happened, there was posturing and annoyances. It wasn’t a brawl or anything, but I highly doubt that anyone aside from myself felt any effects at all. When everyone else left, my brother and I stayed behind with my dad. The two of them got into a heated argument, to the point that my brother threatened to leave and never come back. Thank goodness I was there, I talked some sense into both of them.

I’m not saying that this mix is a dud. The fact that I felt a little bit of selfies shows me that there’s at least something going on. But the dose might have to really be pushed, like to maybe at least 6 sprays. And it might need to be used in one-on-one situations that are predisposed to pleasantness. I suppose I’ll test at least one more time, probably with a dose upwards of 6 sprays. I don’t foresee this one becoming a favorite, though, I’ve seen better results with straight p96.

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I have tested MX466 three times on its own, two sprays to the neck, throat area. I have purposely tested when I knew I’d be alone, because I find I can be more aware of self effects this way.

I don’t know if it’s me, this MX smells nice, a little sweet and not too heavy, but I get absolutely nothing from it. This doesn’t happen often, so I think I will continue with the other MXs in this pack on my own, and then introduce them when I am with my friend. Perhaps the effects on him will be more pronounced.

I never give up on an MX unless if turns me into a She-Demon like P91 did, so there will be more testing of this.

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Testing

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That’s Vanilla? Really? It’s fantastic. Can I get that on anything I want? I’ve only tested two in the pack so far. MX467 is very sensual and cuddly in self-effects and effects on others. The scent has great longevity!

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Vanilla is a standard option for putatives. I will see on Vanilla Dream as a fragrance custom. Hoping to get some queries answered on forum once some of Brian’s other duties are sorted.

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MX470

Not much to say yet. The first time I tried it, I hung out in a house that was so cold, everyone was shivering and bundling up. I could barely smell the MX470 myself, and it was on my neck. Second time I tried it, I fell asleep before I even had time to do much interacting. I plan to give it another try tonight, if I can manage to get out.

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Thank you. :slight_smile:

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mx469

Love the smell- this is the Vanilla I love not the other cheap vanilla I keep getting, I can’t figure it out!

2 sprays, applied to wrist, then rubbed wrists together and wiped my neck

no self effects

three separate dates, three different guys

Immediate physical affection, great eye contact, sexual, no compliments, but a lot of snuggling and playful flirtation (joking around, play fighting, etc). All commented on how great I smelled. (no cover scent used) Also felt them open up and admit some deep secrets. Got a sense of insecurity from all the dates “Someone else will steal you from me if we go there” or “if you still wanna see me again” and “if you want to meet up with someone else that’s fine, just don’t lie about it” This was a big problem for 2 of the dates who got hostile/angry but made the softie/vulnerable guy feel more “safe” somehow (don’t ask me how?)

Quickly turning into a favorite of mine.