This is true beyond a doubt...

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This is 100% true in my opinion also… an example of this is in my weekend testing thread LOL Weekend testing report: Instant Jerk, Ammo, TUTH, A-nol and Instant Shine at a bar

~Haz~

It is true of women as well.

Diane

to an extent… A guy can’t act desperate to a woman… and be able to take her home… HOWEVER… i would think it’s more likely for a depserate woman to take home a guy.

Would it be true in every case? No… but i think it’s more likely for a woman to get who she wants when desperate - more so than a man

~Haz~

Yeah, getting into the sack is easy for just about any woman. That is not what most women are looking for. To get what they want, they need to be interesting, need to have something that gets more than the penis going, like the guy’s curiosity, his amazement, his intellect, and his desire to work towards something.

Getting a guy into the sack is easy. But listen up guys. She probably won’t respect you in the morning.

Diane

This is so true! :roll_eyes:

I’m not saying I want a guy who treats me like crap, but I equally loathe guys who pamper me like a fragile china doll and put me on a bloody pedestal…

I need a guy who’s confident without being a prick…someone who gives as good as he takes :roll_eyes:
Super nice aint good, but neither is super bad…

I’m going to agree with Diane here - Desperation is the quickest way to get a guy running in the opposite direction (sometimes at full sprint).

The only reason that girls desperate to get laid have less difficulty then men is that there are far more desperate men (and a desperate man will accept a desperate woman) - they are more likely to get lucky and hit on a guy who would take anyone.

Even desperate guys get laid on occasion simply because they get lucky and run into a desperate woman. Oftentimes those hookups end in deliciously destructive relationships

SPOT ON! I agree w/ you here… Without some kind of intellect or personality to go along with her… she’d be nothing more than a ONS

~Haz~

That’s the problem I have with my TG, I am head over heals and will do anything for her, but it seems to be turning her off. So you are definitely right. But can you elaborate please on the “confident without being a prick” part? & also what else are they lookin’ for? :frowning: What not to act like, and whatnot.

Oh, you know what I mean with confident without being a prick :wink: The pricks/bastards etc are the ones that walk around being way to cocky and self-assured, thinking they are God’s gift to women…When the so aren’t… They often think they are so damn attractive that you’ll just throw yourself at them :roll_eyes:

The confident without being pricks…well, they are the ones that have self confidence, but aren’t too cocky or think too highly of them selves :slight_smile:

I don’t think you should read too much into what I said… I basically think any extreme, be that too nice & whimpy, or too cocky and stuck-up, is bad…I don’t see you being either of those :wink: Just be yourself, but if you feel like your TG gets put off by you being too nice, then try control the urge of doing everything for her…It’s not easy though…it’s soo easy to get caught up in the chaos of emotions when we fall for someone :roll_eyes:

right on Diane.

only guys arent looking for respect,
they are looking for a towel :smiley:

LOL… yup!

My point is that guys that are only clamoring for sex arent’ very interesting, and they can be repellant. And if a woman does choose to bed a horn dog, doesn’t mean he will ever have access to that bit of heaven again.

Diane

OK here’s my chance to give myself a good talking to.

Being a ‘nice guy’ is a bad thing. Bring an honest, straightforward, decent guy is a good thing. Do not avoid speaking the truth because somebody might be uncomfortable with it. ‘Talking people down’ is not wrong when it is true. Don’t go out of your way to find fault, but when the subject comes up speak the plain unvarnished truth. If her ex is a worthless fool say so. Say so loud and clear and explain why.

Do this especially if you value her. Otherwise she may end up with the worthless fool.

From a recovering nice guy,