You really think so?
Diane
MX135… That is a good stand alone for wowing him, but my guess is you already did that with the rescue.
I don’t wanna mock your gaydar or anything but this really sounds like he holds you in high regard and wants to woo you. What gay fella would put this much energy into a woman he’s met once? A a team-mate calling someone “one of the girls” is just dick waving, put down, competition, boy games. It doesn’t mean anything.
I guess in this case, I’d want to wear something sweet and mellow, but still keep that strong edge that he was so obviously attracted to in the first place. So, maybe 2 x MX135 and 1 x MX134 and 12.5 - 25.0 mcg betanol and a touch of TAH (back of your head, woman!) to make you a really mysterious and complex girl.
I think P91 is too social and hippy for a first date.
Diane
Totally agreed re p91. 
He was called “one of the girls” by a girl. I’d not listen to that comment if it was made by a man, for the same reasons you stated above. By a girl, as a dismissive, “oh, he’s just one of us girls!” … that could mean something…
DO mock the gay-dar. It has failed me in the past, numerous times. I think I had set it up in my head for so long that he is gay that I am having a very hard time shifting away from that thought process. There is nothing wrong with him - he’s a great guy. But I have never thought about him in this way. It’s a bit mind boggling for me.
He wasn’t a part of the rescue - met this one at my conference. He’s CT, like me. He was impressed with my story of the rescue, and then revealed (after I made a total goober of myself explaining really simplistic medical stuff) that he was a Medic before he was CT… :o
This whole thing started last month because he wanted to “get together to chat about business.”
That turned to dinner…
to cocktails…
to live music…
to dancing…
to him driving…
to random crackberry “just wanted to say hi” emails…
to now we have a second “date/mtg” lined up…
Sadly…
I have no MX134! 
Are you kidding - I’d have bathed in it for my conference if I did.) Can I get it airlifted to my loc, stat?? 
Your mix sounds great, aside from that glaring exception on my part!
Soft and girly mones are what I am working with. The most “aggressive” one I have is IS/a - out of TAL even. MX135 works pretty well with me, but while I have had great success using it as a base for a mix in the past, I know that’s not advised, since it’s already a ginormous mix.
Yes - I’m struggling to shake a man at the moment who I met bar hopping in February.
There’s been nothing, nothing at all between us. We met, had some drinks, exchanged business cards - that’s all.
I enjoy meeting people. It’s my business. I go out and like to be among people. I like to have fun evenings and meet new people, but I rarely keep in contact with most of them.
This one wont go away.
Guess what I was wearing?
Cops! Lots and lots o’ cops
and my shiny new Beta-nol.
I get emails, chain mail forwarded, text messages, invites out every week… I stopped politely declining and am just ignoring now… it doesn’t stop…
So yes. I think so.
Ah, but may I remind you that one point does not a trend make? I’ve had a few stalkers before I found pheromones.
MX134 we think (Lor and I) is the old version of A314 minus the Androstenone and with the addition of TAH.
I think they are calling it MX300 now.
Diane
Oh, very true. 
But I’d like to not test this one out, if ya know what I mean…
I’ll have to add it to my order next time. You guys certainly love it over in Lor’s journal. You were talking about it (maybe?) having -rone? Is that in A314?
Old A314 has … 9 pheros?
Sorry, I know very little about the men’s line. :o
Androsterone is the main pheromone in A314.
I have 50 mcg/spray Androsterone that I dilute for testing. I’m really liking it.
Androsterone is a pheromone derivative of testosterone, and the one that gives the aura and vibe of uber leadership and confidence and alphaness. It has a really nice, clean, melon smell to it, even in higher concentration.
Diane
of course YOU would say that …
hehehehe im a p86 whore
goes off to put on some more and passes out from ODing
cops and betanol never made someone “stalk” me.
and you would think i might meet a stalker in a bar…but NOOOO
WHY WONT ANYONE STALK ME !!!
DAMN YOU,STALKERS!
on a side note,
i usually add betanol to everything.
seriously.
and cops to me is like wearing musk.
not the big deal everyone makes it out to be,
just that it keeps me looking female and spritely
when im wearing all those other man-smells LOL.
Diane
sheesh, its like talking about pizza and now i want one…
goes to put some p86 on and curses remmy
yeah, and I remember your betanol OD’s at the bar too…
I do remember when you forgot the betanol and then thought that maybe it was the key ingredient.
I like it too - I’m just wary now. Once burned… 1000 times wary in my world.
However, yes, i will probably go with your suggestion and wear those two.
And yes, Remmy, a little p86 - I do like it too ! Not as much as you though…
Any p74 or est??
I remember now - you were comparing it to p80 not too long ago. (i really should know more about the mens line - I will start doing some research)
You love it 'cause your hubby is a big -rone producing guy, yes?
So you’re -rone tests are going well? Any fun stuff to share yet?
Just that I was surprised at the body euphoria I experienced with it. But I’m on a bit of a pheromone holiday at the moment while I’m focusing on getting a very important project going.
Androsterone is one that deserves my full attention. I’ll give it that when I have the time. But being ADD, I have to keep focused on one important thing at a time or I get really ditsy and lost. My poor husband! I’m so glad he loves me.
Diane
my jumpy reply that kinda answers everyone’s
awww thats so cute diane im glad he loves u too
i usually have really negative reactions from androstenone (its the molec in turn up the heat. right?).. i think it’s cuz i tend to over-do it a bit and get super cranky.. but im getting a bit jealous from all the good alphaness that sillykitty is getting and reconsidering trying A314..
and yes, EST. def. but dont use too much cuz we have to save it until later p74 is a fun molecule also.. but i kinda feel like if ur gna have EST on, its kinda pointless to put on p74.. thats just me tho
oh i loove copulins. i dont care that im 23 and makes a ton already i still love it. i only had one negative reaction that i can think of. and i honestly think that woman who yelled at me wouldve done so regardless of wheteher i was wearing cops or not. i feel like cops let me be the scary alpha female wearing mx300 (or is/a) and lets me get away with it
Yeah, Androstenone is my least favorite of all the molecules. I get irritable and anxious around it too.
Androsterone is fast becoming one of my favorites.
I agree about the P74. It is more for group social. Est, though, I think I’d save for later.
I bet you are right about the cops and the bitch (hey! is that a new name for a new movie?).
Diane
Not Gay!!
I KNEW IT! LOLOLOLZ!
Diane
Oookaayyyy… Friday Night…
Now that I am juiced up on margaritas I can type it out. Please forgive me if this is unintelligible. This bartender makes them strong.
So all day Friday I was nervous. Nervous about him being gay/not gay, what it meant if he wasn’t, what I should do if he was/wasnt… I’m not really at a point in my life where welcoming another person in or starting a real serious relationship, however innocuous it starts, is real feasible right now. This is true, even with my unending crush on Medic Mc Steamy Muscles. So I was nervous.
I chose to wear Mx135 (2 sprays), p74, (100mcg), p86 (50mcg), cops and instant honesty. I also bathed in TAH much, much earlier in the day, hoping for the lasting, loving, beautiful effect to persist.
Well, first the TAH - at high doses (100mcg) it lasts. either as a phero or as a biological by-product. I was in the TAH frame of mind for 24-26 hours after application. I was happy, peaceful, content, womanly - and around my date, I was utterly content to take the backseat. I was thrilled to be the woman, with the man in control, leading the way. I didn’t even consciously think about it.
How did this effect my date? Weeelllll…
I think I found another TAL responder!
Makes sense, as that’s the stuff I was wearing when he met me. I should be very pleased with this, as TAL is more naturally me. But, I love that TAH frame!
Why do I think this?
When we first linked up on Friday night, I was in ultimate TAH mode - happy, calm, loving, womanly, docile and ready for him to take the lead. We had a very awkward first 45 mins driving to the restaurant and sitting inside, trying to make small talk. I wasn’t feeling awkward - I was happily letting him take the lead. He, on the other hand, was struggleing to find something to say. His eyes were darting around, he was looking around the restaurant, disinterested in me. Not nerves - disinterest.
Finally we started talking about work. That brought us back to the same page. Now, I was able to really shine. For every work thing I talked about, he was far, far more shocked than he should have been. It was almost as if my abilities were doubted, and him hearing me tell of my adventures kept building value in his eyes, despite the incongruence of my TAH docile vibes and my stories of intrigue and danger.
Leaving the restaurant, he gave me a very, very confused look and said I was a very intriguing woman.That hung in the air for a while.
I have to agree with Wrlprchnx from Lor’s journal - he’s the kind of guy who likes Alpha woman. He wants a strong, equal woman by his side. My soft, “be a loving woman companion” vibe was not what he wanted. My stories and experiences (me) was - but the TAH vibe was most def not. As I was venting, he was turning away - he wanted the strong, commanding, partnering leader type woman.
He wants to be fed to my lions.
So we head off to the music venue, and because I am me and weird sticks to me, “something” happens. He has to get on the blackberry and the cell and respond to the crisis, but its all good now. The world was saved.
We get there right as the window of my pheros is closing. They wear off quick like on me, so I had packed the mx135 to reapply. I decided not to.
We grabbed some beers and listened to the pre-band, which was awesome, then moved off to the side wall to watch the main show. During the interim, we got to chat again, this time “back to me” and him responding to that.
Well…
Suddenly he is enthralled. He cannot keep his eyes or his hands away from me. Its lite, innocent touches. Very gentlemanly. We talk and talk and talk, all about everything. Suddenly, the comments come out:
“You are trouble, aren’t you?”
“I love women like that”
“You are pretty incredible” and
“I like your nose.” WTF??
The innocent touches turned into dancing… Which got fun and exciting.
He was an utter gentleman though. It was a classy, classy, FUN date. Once we finally got on the same page, it was awesome!!
After 3 beers, I asked him why Christa called him “one of the girls.” He had a horrified look on. “I don’t know why…why?” Well… Cause I thought you were gay up until, ooooh, 4pm today. . He was shocked. Utterly floored. Laughed his ass off. We had a good chuckle. He still doesn’t know why she said that about him.
We have another date set for Saturday. We’ll spend the day together sightseeing in a nearby ocean town, then dinner and music and dancing again. Perfect.
He asked me email when I got home last night, to show I got home safely. (We r both crackberry fanatics). How sweet. I did, and he responded with glowing, wonderful words:
“…tonight exceeded my greatest expectations…”
“…such a wonderful time…”
“…really looking forward to seeing you again…”
I got another “hey what’s up” email today from him. That’s when we set up the next Sat date. Again, he mentioned how wonderful an evening he had.
I do like him. He’s very nice, very fun, very kind. He’s very hot. We have very, very similar interests and thoughts. We have a good, jibing humor. We understand each others work.
I could see this developing, if given time and energy.
Do I have that to give?
We’ll see. It will really drive itself, won’t it?
Ironically enough, we did talk business during dinner. we had some really good chats about future trainings and development. He has some really forward thinking plans. It was exciting to be a part of it. I think that part will go great.
Is it Saturday yet???