I’ve read somewhere (can’t remember where due to reading like 400 threads here lately), that you shouldn’t use pheromones on a regular basis. I’m not sure as to why, or how often, but would someone please fill me in on this? Thanks.![]()
This is truly an interesting question, for noobs like you and i.I would really like it to be answered please.
NONE BUILD UP is what they claim. Do a search, click on SHOW POST, for NONE BUILD UP and BUILD UP, and you can read their thoughts on the subject.
Like M said, there is an issue with -none buildup, but I think it extends beyond that. I think it’s good to take a break for two reasons:
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gives your brain a chance to reset from all of the chemical signals, thus decreasing your chances of becoming “immune” to self effects, which usually happens with prolonged pheromone use
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To remind yourself what pheromones really contribute to your every day life. If you use pheromones every day of the week, you have no neutral base to compare pheromone use to. By throwing in some “off” days, you can gauge your interaction with people and compare it to how it changes with pheromone use.
I personally don’t like to use pheros for more than 3 or 4 days max in a row. And even using this method, I have still been getting less and less self effects from -none.
Thanks Scottie. So, you say that even now you’re receiving less self effects only using for 3-4 days consecutively; does this also mean that you’re seeing less results form other people around you; and how long do you suppose you’d need to take off completely to sensitze yourself back again?
If you are around the same people every day and use the same or similar phero signature each time, over time they too may become de-sensitized to the mones. You may still get reactions, but they could be blunted reactions that aren’t as pronounced as before. And I never thought about it until you mentioned this, but I think I’ve been witnessing this exact phenomenon with a group meeting that I have 3 days/wk with the same people. I used to get profound reactions usng A314 and IH, but recently I’ve been noticing minimal responses. This could be why. Thank you for asking me this and bringing it to my attention.
But if you are around different people, then most likely decreased effectiveness should not be a problem because they have not been exposed to the pheromones for a long enough time period (I’m talking weeks, not hours or even days).
I have no idea how long you’d have to go with no pheros to return to full self effects. I’d imagine about a month would work, but then again who wants to wait a month
. I think I’m going to try using completely different pheros for a while to see if the self effects come back. I hope they do because my A314 self effects have been pretty minimal lately as well, and it used to make me feel unstoppable.
with regular use around the same people on a consistent basis, those people will become accustomed to your new phero sig. this can affect results and usage in a few ways.
for one, you may find that your sig fuses so well that it becomes you, and you no longer need many pheros. a good example is a314. if you wear it well and stay congruent throughout your usage, those around you may still hold you in high regard on days you don’t use it. after a while, this will be a natural feeling and you could perform the same duties and get the same results without using a314.
another way results can be affected, one that i recently experienced, is that nothing works anymore. this is different from the above reason in that this is more of a “second tier” outcome while the above is a “first tier” outcome, meaning you’re more likely to reach that first. my experience with this is with my girlfriend of more than a year. the early stages of our relationship was -none fueled. she grew used to that and then i moved on to mx’s, then ptives. it may seem like i’m contradicting myself down below but even with months apart at a time with our distance relationship as a “refresher,” pheros still don’t have much effect on her. this doesn’t seem like a terribly common outcome; you may find this more with people really close to you whose perceptions are harder to change.
in any case, you’ll want to have a “refresher” every so often. this can be a few times a week like scotties does or however long you deem necessary, and this interval is found through testing and observation. the length of your break will also vary with different targets – generally longer for those you see often, and shorter for those you don’t. to be selfish and use another personal example, i used to have classes with the same group of people every day last semester, and i needed about a week for each refresher period to have a clean slate. this semester we’ve started to specialize our courses so i see these people maybe once or twice a week. since naturally they’re not around me much, pheros have an instant and sometimes blatant effect.
if you use a lot of -none products, you’ll want to do as m&m suggested and read up on -none buildup. this is one of the most common ways to ghost and an easy killer of results for your other pheros.
hope this answers your questions.
repped for a perfect answer.
Can you give a link to none build up?
That’s exactly what i did, and didnt find anything.
-none tends to stick to skin and hair much longer than other pheromones. this is most likely due to its chemical composition, and the fact that -nols can be converted into -none by bacteria on skin, with enough time and heat. Buildup of -none can result in a -none OD which may result in keeping people away. Some people use witch hazel or hydrogen peroxide to clean -none application points. I personally just shower and scrub with soap, and it seems to work fine. -None also tends to stick to clothes for quite some time, so it’s best to apply it to your skin.
Which pheromones contain none here.
TUTH, IJ, Ammo, and to a smaller extent A314.
isn’t IG none based as well?
Not at all. Its rone based.
Then why do they sell androstenone alone by itself and what is androsterone exactly?
For many reasons. You can use it by itself. You can use it to mix it with other things. rone is a fatherly/mature vibe sort of pheromone. Things are sold by themselves because there are people here whom prefer to do their own thing with it rather than to be confined to the products sold as the consumer line such as the “instant’s”.
Ok, so if pheromones in particular nones are subject to build-up, then how do the guys who apply Androgel(testosterone) daily not have build-up effects?
I don’t have personal experience with Androgel, but I’ve read a few reports before of people using Androgel and some of them say that after using it for a week or so they develop a distinct musky smell and a few have reported increased attention from women while using Androgel. But you also have to keep in mind that Testosterone and Androstenone are not the same compound.