To be less harmless and more polarizing

Excellent point Evolver. Without the pheromones I would not have even noticed what he was doing or even cared. So that definitely is a self-effect. I would say that I was in fact slightly annoyed but not too much so. As far as his argument with the bartender, that is a different story.

It’s funny that you mention drunk people being affected by pheromones. Without pheromones I can get into conversations much easier with sober women than drunk women. In fact, drunk women usually don’t want anything to do with me without pheromones. But with pheromones, drunk women seem much more interested in interacting with me.

Went to my local bar - pretty empty

I went to my local bar last night and it was pretty empty. There was a guy a couple seats to my right, my favorite female bartender, and some other customers at the other end of the bar.

I wore the following pheromones:
1 Spray TUTH to my stomach about an hour before I left my apartment.
1 drop of A314 to my wrists right before I left my apartment.

I had a fun time chatting with the bartender and the guy to my right who was a friend of the bartender. Actually they did most of the talking but they definitely made an effort to include me in the conversation. I’m not sure if the pheromones helped at all or not. But I do suspect that people are more likely to include me in their conversations with pheromones than without. I just don’t really have enough solid evidence to back this feeling up yet. I have had nice conversations with this bartender without pheromones in the past too though.

With A314 and -none I do feel less invisible than without.

Met Friend, No Hits

I met a friend of mine for a drink tonight. We get together once every couple of months and hang out to talk. Occassionally she invites me out to hang out with her social group.

I wore the following:
1 spray of TUTH to my stomach an hour before I went out
1 drop of A314 to my wrists.

I definitely have no intension of getting involved with this particular friend for several reasons. First of all she is Lesbian. Secondly, she is in a committed long term relationship and I have met her partner several times. Thirdly she sets me up on dates with her female acquaintences from time to time. In any case I put on the pheromones because I want to see if I would get hits from other women.

The night played out like a typical night would for me me without any pheromones. My friend and I got a booth and we talked for a couple of hours. After we split up and left, I went to a bar across the street. I sat next to this cute girl and chatted with her on and off for about an hour. She enjoyed talking to me but there were so signs of attraction. I briefly chatted with the bartender but she really didn’t have any interest in chatting with me but she was friendly to me. This is how people typically react to me without pheromones on.

Anyway, my friend invited me to a BBQ she is having this weekend. I have met her group of friends 3 or 4 times over the last couple of years so I know them all. I have not hung out with this social group since I started wearing pheromones. My friend hinted that one of her friends likes me. But this girl is in a long distance relationship so I don’t know what to make of this. In any case this girl is going to be at the BBQ and I have talked to her a few times over the last two years. She is pretty shy.

My dilemma is whether to wear the Instant Jerk or not. I have loved the hits I get with Instant Jerk when among strangers. But this social group is used to me without pheromones. I might rub them the wrong way by wearing instant jerk. On the other hand this group is not part of my normal social life so it won’t be too big of a loss if I irritate them somehow. On the other hand, I’m not sure if I want to take that risk. Maybe I’ll use the Instant jerk and buffer it with Instant honesty and Instant Openness to weaken it a bit. Of course that would lessen the potential hits. I just don’t know what I’m going to do yet.

I know exactly what you mean. It’s such a dilemma. Do You want to come off as the mature, respectable man? Do you want to be the ladykiller? Too many choices.

Hit from a gay men and an elderly woman :frowning:

Last night I went out to Manhattan again. I got more female attention again than I used to without pheromones but it wasn’t a great night. Unfortunately my two biggest “hits” of the night where a gay guy who was aggressively and blatantly hitting on me and an old lady on the subway ride home who kept telling me how our country is getting worse while she kept on touching me and flipping her hair.

I went out with the following pheromones:
3/4 Spray of Instant Jerk on my neck(Partially missed my neck)
3 drops of A314 (Wanted 2 drops but 3 came out)

I screwed myself up my scripting some conversation this week before going out. It never works for me and always makes my interactions with women worse. I don’t know what possessed me to try it again.

I go to this upscale hotel bar that had a party sponsored by Patron. I go to the bar and order a drink. There are two women to my left and one on them starts really playing with her hair quite a lot. I don’t know if it’s for me or just because she is talking to her friend but I approach anyway. So I start a conversation with them and they both show interest. The both give me really good eye contact and appear very attentive. So I go into my scripted conversation and within a minute they lose interest. I saw the interest drain right out of their eyes just like that. So I excused myself and walked over to the other side of the bar.

So I go to the other side of the bar and I see another girl make eye contact with me and she plays with her hair a bit so I start a conversation with her and she shows strong interest with her eyes. Then I do my scripted conversation again and in less than a minutes, here interest just drains away and she ejects. So I ditch the scripted conversation stuff.

I saw this one girl make strong eye contact with me about 5 or 6 times. But she was in a conversation the whole time. I lingered for about 10 minutes waiting for their conversation to end but it never did. The guy was a major talker. I wish I could talk like that.

So, I ejected and went to this place that has live music. It was just a 5 dollar cover but the band was excellent. They were the most versatile cover band I remember seeing. I think they did 1 or 2 original songs too.

I hang out at the bar for about 10 minutes and I get no hits. Then I walk over to the dance floor where people are hanging out and I get no hits. Then I walk over to the other side of the dance floor and linger. I see one girl look at me but she never looked again so I don’t think that was a hit.

So I go upstairs and walk through the bar are and the lounge area but it’s pretty empty. Then I go back downstairs and people are dancing on the dance floor area so I join in. I immediately get a hit from a girl on the dance floor. She bumps into me several times and looks at me. So I begin to ponder how to open her but she only lingers for a few minutes then moves away before I have a chance to open her.

This cute girl with a pony tail bumps into me pretty hard as she walks by and then turns around and gives me a very flirty look. I freeze and don’t act on it. I eventually see her and her group gradually moving closer to me. But when she is standing a few feet from me, this meathead stands between us and starts talking to her. Eventually they move away and start dancing.

Another girl gives me several looks and bumps into me quite a few times. By the time I’m ready to open her, she is dancing with another guy. I casually observed them the rest of the night because I wanted to see if I could learn something from this guy. They danced for like an hour and he kept on pulling her close to him. He kept trying to kiss her over and over and she kept on turning her face to the side. I would have given up the first try but this guy was persistent. Later in the evening, they were making out and she had her arms around him squeezing him tightly. I guess she was just playing hard to get.

I see another woman at the railing look at me and I decided to do a completely straight forward direct approach. I tell her something to the effect that she is attractive and I want to get to know her. She gives me good eye contact and smiles. I have a tough time reading her. She seems to like my approach but then she tells me that she has to go to the bathroom really really really bad. Yet she continues standing there despite holding in her pee. I joking tell her that she should go to the bathroom then because we don’t want a mess on the dance floor. (That was a stupid thing to say.) She says, “yeah” and walks away.

Then I’m dancing on the dance floor and this gay guy is dancing with a beautiful woman. He motions me to come over and I shake my head no. Then he ditches the girl, comes up to me, puts his arm around me and starts rubbing my chest with his other hand while making suggestive remarks. I freeze, become uncomfortable, and my whole body stiffens up in discomfort. Then I start pulling myself away from him. At that point I think he realized that I was straight and left to get a drink.

I walk through the downstairs bar area and I see this woman look at me as I walk by. So, I stop and linger for a while and I open her with a super direct approach and I kiss her hand. She tells me she is flattered and she points to her husband. Oops. But she has this huge smile on her face and she continues talking to me. So we chat for a few minutes and I excuse myself. It’s already late and I take the subway home.

Then of course on the way home a crazy old lady opens up on the subway. If she was my age, I would definitely say she was giving me strong IOIs. But I don’t know what to make of what she was doing considering she was in her 70s or 80s.

Since I suck at small talk and I’m not a great conversationalist I’m thinking about being really direct and suggestive right up front and see how that works for me.

I had been thinking since I asked you about why you dropped all the PUA material. My two scents is that you have to uncover what is the principle behind the story telling and that has to do with DHV.

For some reason some PUA try to disregard the good listener approach. Excuse me, but that’s an ageless Human Relationships principle taught by Dale Carnegie and embraced by many, many successful men in history. The one that asks the questions directs the conversation. Therefore, instead of wasting your time with canned stories, work with questions. I have done that and it works magic. I have tons of them now and they are great openers, but above all, they are great conversation triggers.

IDEM as the above.

Instant Openess has made me more prone to small talk but still after 15 minutes I get anxious.

I met once someone that happens to be married to a friend of mine now. However, in the previous 4 to 6 months before meeting my friend he nailed 24 four laides. When I asked for the secrets of the master, he had just one to share: you have to be bluntly honest. The piece that he didn’t share is the delivery but as he was sharing that we walked into a restaurant. The hostess was hyper hot. She asked: “A table for two?” and with the most aloof but charming attitude he just replied, “or for three, if you care joining us, my friend is single”.

This morning I start chating with a lady in her 50’s that gave me some IOI’s. I told to myself it is all about practice. At some point I was testing the waters and made a comment. She looked at me and said: “Are you charming me?” I hesitated for a bit. Usually this is the point where the game tends to be over as they unvover the plot, I excuse myself and not know what to do. I deny it and blame it on my yellow shirt (go figure why that was a good excuse, but she bought in). The conversations moved on, but then I thought what a heck, I am just training with this one. So, i threw a blunt direct charming projectile. I asked her to remove her glasses, and said something in the lines: “You had the must beautiful, youthful, blue eyes”. She looked at me. Smile. And then I added. “And by the way, yes, I am charming you”. She was disarmed, she looked away, turned back and said: “Honesty, direct honesty, that so rare and charming in a man”. That’s the beauty of older ladies, they share the pearls of wisdom.

So, I am reading you right now and I am saying to myself, What a heck, make it or brake it. Tonight is Jerk Friday (I am testing the Instant Jerk again), this is maybe a more congruent behiavour for this product.

I have to agree with vangelis, this is a good approach and what I teach my guys.

I also can not stress enough… BUFFER YOUR FKING -NONE. LMFAO

seriously guys, “I bomb out… with my buffer out”… get it?

Small amounts can be nice for acceptance… but bombs.. get action and results…

Vangelis, how do you ask your questions without coming across like you are interviewing the girl? Do you have any examples of questions that can be used at the beginning of the conversation to trigger a deeper conversation?

I agree that I should be buffering my -NONE. I do have instant Openness and instant honesty. The reason I haven’t lately is because I get more hits when I don’t buffer my -NONE. But in the long run I will probably switch back to buffering my -NONE because it probably improve the interactions I have.

Birthday Group

Last night I went out with the following mix:
1 Spray Instant Jerk to my throat
1 Spray Instant Openess to my throat
2 Drops of A314 to my Wrists
1 Spray Instant Honesty 2X to my Wrists

I think when I buffer with the socials my hits are less intense but it’s more likely that a whole group will like me. But more experimenting is necessary to prove this.

Also, over the course of the night I got more IOIs than I did without pheromones but not as many as I have in the past when I didn’t buffer with Androstenol.

My best hit came at the first venue which is a small lounge with a nice bar and a dance floor. I go to the bar and order a drink. There are three girls to the right of me and within a minute of ordering my drinks, one of the girls leans back into me as she takes picture with her friends.

That was a pretty clear IOI so I start a conversation with the group. I ask them what they are doing shots of and we discuss Tequila briefly. Then they inform me that the girl on our far right is celebrating her birthday and all three of them are giving me great eye contact. Then they decide to dance and one of them deliberately touches my shoulder as they walk to the dance floor area.

So basically there are these three girls plus one more that shows up later.
Girl#1 - Gave me the initial IOI
Girl#2 - Girl who touched me on the shoulder while going to the dance floor
Girl#3 - Birthday Girl (likes me)
Girl#4 - Shows up later (likes me too)

So I sit at the bar for about 5 minutes pondering what I should do. Then a bar worker comes by and takes away all the stools because they are converting from a bar to a club.

So I go on to the dance floor and dance near the three girls. They all turn to face me so I face them and continue to dance. Then they form circle with me so the four of us are in a dance circle dancing. Then girl#3 stops dancing, comes up to me, introduces herself, and we exchange names. Then we continue to dance in the dance circle.

Then girl#2 shouts something to me and points to an area on the dance floor. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do but I move to where she was pointing and then girl#1 and girl#2 make a sandwich out of me and start grinding me for a little while.

Then girl#3 starts dancing in front of me and she is giving me really strong eye contact. We dance together a little bit but I really suck at dancing with others. (I could barely dance on my own.) We dance for about 10 minutes with brief touch at times but it’s mostly just dancing in front of each other.

Then girl#4 shows up with a bunch of guys who are all there for the birthday of girl#3. Girl#3 introduces me to girl#4 but not to any of the guys thankfully. Then the girls start to dance with each other but they are not giving me any attention anymore. I’m sort of dancing off to the side by myself.

What’s really interesting is girl#4 walks over to me and tries to strike up a conversation but it was hard due to the loud music and her accent. Then she returns to her group and I continue dancing where I was.

Now, the really unusual thing happens. Girl#4 proceeds to give me more IOIs over the next half an hour than any other girl I can remember. She continually looks back at me over and over again. I lost count but it was definitely over 20 times which is very unusual. I think the most I have ever seen a girl glance back at me ever was 2 or 3 times. This was a very very unusual case and I wonder if it was a strange effect of the pheromones.

I’m thinking to myself that if I had any game at all or any skill at all with women, this would be a sure thing. I just didn’t know what to do with the whole group there and the fact that girl#3 had been showing me lots of interest before girl#4.

I reach a point where I really don’t know what to do to handle this situation with the big group. So I decide to eject and change venues. I figure I’ll number close one of the girls to gauge how well I did. So I decide to number close girl#3 instead of girl#4.

So I walk over to girl#3 and she stops dancing and looks at me. I tell her that it was nice meeting her and I hold out my hand. She shakes my hand and our hands don’t let go for at least 30 seconds as we continue to talk. I tell her that I would like to meet her for a drink next week and she asks me when I’m going dancing again. This might be a rejection. It might be a polite way of her telling me that she doesn’t want to go on a date with me. Anyway, I get her number and leave.

I went to the next 2 clubs and nothing really interesting happened. I got some IOIs from girls but no solid hits. I did a lot of dancing but I do think that the pheromones are more powerful without the socials than with.

Yet 2 of my best interactions with groups of women happened while wearing a socials. Yet the hits seem more frequent without the socials. It all seems like an unfortunate trade off that must be made.

Also, with the socials I generally have to do the approaching. But I definitely had more woman approach me in the past when I go out with the -None + A314 unbuffered. I have to look back through my journal but I don’t think I have been approached by any women when wearing any Androstenol based product. Yet approaching seems easier with the Androstenol based products. This is all so tricky to figure out.

Haircut & no hits

Today I went out with the following Pheromones:

1 Spray of TUTH to my throat.
1 Drop of A314 to my wrists.
1 Spray of Instant Openess to my throat
1 Spray of Instant Honesty 2X to my throat.

I walked around the Lower East Side for about an hour, got my haircut, went to trader joes and took the subway home.

People seemed to react the same to me today as they usually do without pheromones.

Engaged Woman, married woman, drama, and guilt

Last night decided it for me. Whenever I go out to a club or any type of bar that is a meat market, I’m definately not going to buffer my Androstenone with Androstenol. But I’m always going to enhance it with A314.

Last night I went out with the following pheromones:
1 Spray of Instant Jerk to my throat
1 Spray of TUTH to my upper chest, lower throat
2 Drops of A314 to my wrists

I went to Webster Hall last night. Normally I don’t name the venues that I go to because I want to be sure that I retain my anonymity. But since there are thousands of people in this night club, it’s unlikely that I can be identified. :slight_smile: It’s also not the best place to test pheromones because it’s a really weird place and weird things always happen there with or without pheromones. I had been there twice without pheromones in the past and the first time I had my only one night stand of my life. The second time I ended up making out with a college girl the entire night. So I expect that my experiences below could have happened without pheromones. The only difference was that the girls I interacted with last night were better looking than the women I met at Webster Hall without pheromones.

I have to go on a little rant about Webster Hall before I begin just in case people actually read this post. I’ll start off by saying that if you are a guy, Webster Hall is good between the hours of 10:30 PM and 12:30 AM. There are a lot of hot women during these hours and most of the guys are old and/or creepy so the competition is not that bad. If you are a woman, this club will suck for you at all hours so don’t go. After 1AM, the place is about 75% guys and 25% women. After 2AM, the place is about 90% guys and 10% women. I think most of the women leave fairly early when they get sick of all the f#cking creepy guys in that place groping them - it’s really a bad place. This place is also a complete meat market which is good if you are a guy. All night long you seen couples who just met making out and possibly more all around. The club is 19 & over but the people in the club range from 19 to 50. It is really the weirdest crowd I have ever seen in a nightclub. Also, lots of guys walk around without shirts on later in the night. WTF!

So, I get to Webster hall, grab a drink at the bar on the main dance floor and just dance for about 5 minutes near the bar where I got my drink. Nothing happens so I move to the other side of the dance floor and do another 5 minutes of dancing. Nothing happens again. So I move to the middle of the dance floor near a stage where people are dancing.

This really good looking girl (girl#1) comes up to me and dances right in front of me with super intense eye contact for about 10 seconds and returns to her group. Then she comes up to me an starts dancing with me again a few minutes later. She is a really good dancer and I suck at dancing. So she proceeds to do all these fancy dance moves pretending that I’m the one leading her but in reality I’m just confused and I really don’t know what I’m doing. This amuses her and she has a big smile on her face. She continues giving me intense eye contact and our bodies make lots of contact. After about 20 minutes of this, my drink is gone and I’m getting thirsty. I suggest we go to the bar and get a drink. So, she agrees and I take her hand and walk with her to the bar. She just wants a water and I decided to get a water too. The whole time we are at the bar we are holding ands and she is asking me rapport questions. She is clearly attracted to me. I finally suggest that we try a bar in the room on the other side of the level. So we are holding hands and when we walk by her friends she stops holding my hand and goes to her friends.

So, I go and get two waters and then I return to the area and give her her water. Then we dance a bit but she eventually leaves me and she starts dirty dancing with her female friends. I figure that she realized that I don’t know how to dance.

So, I’m dancing by myself again in the general area for about 10 minutes. I see another cute girl (girl#2) about 5 feet in front of me staring at me. She proceeds to come right in front of me and she is dancing in front of me. So I move closer to her to the point where our bodies are almost touching. Then She puts her arms around me and starts dirty dancing.

Now, I realize the true power of the pheromones. She is looking at me like she is in love and she tells me how hot I am and least a few times right there and then several times over the next hour. Now, I’m a decent looking guy who is in very good shape for my age. But I’m not “hot” by any stretch of the imagination. It would actually be totally unrealistic to consider me “hot”. I also think this was a powerful pheromone hit because this girl was completely sober!

So, we dirty dance for at least 10 minutes and she has her arms around me like she was in love. This situation felt exactly like the one last week with the Norwegian blonde girl I was dancing with. I was a little aggressive with escalation with the Norwegian blond girl and I think I scared her off. This time I decided to play it cool and this girl her grope and touch me as much as she
wanted to without me escalating back. I just played it cool and took a patient approach.

Then all of a sudden girl#1 is sitting on the back of a couch facing us watching us dance. She shouts at us and takes a picture of us. I ask girl#2 if she knows girl#1 and girl#2 tells me that she is best friends with girl#1. They have known each other for 20 years. F#ck me. This is just bad luck.

Then girl#1 starts dirty dancing with both of us for a few minutes. Then she pulls girl#2 away from me and starts dancing with her about six feet away from me. After about a minute of dancing, girl#2 ditches her best friend, runs back to me, and grabs on to me like we are long lost lovers reunited after being apart for years. Sweet! So girl#1 retreats back to where she was and watches me dance with her best friend.

So I’m dancing with girl#2 again for a couple of minutes. She then suggests that we go to the bar to get a drink. We go to one bar on the main level and it’s way to crowded. So, I suggest we go to the bar near the basement dance floor so we go down there.

All of a sudden, I became confident my smoothness kicked in. For the rest of the time I spent with this girl, I knew exactly what to say and I became a good conversationalist. It kills me that this happens so infrequently. (Most of the time I am tongue tied with women with a completely blank mind. )

We are talking and flirting while we are waiting at the bar. She gives me a little kiss on the lips and then she says that there is something that she has to tell me and she looks embarrassed. I say, “OK, what is it?” She then tells me with an embarrassed look, “I am older than you.” I ask her how old she is and she tells me she is 32. I roll my eyes and tell her that I have her beaten by almost a half a decade. She doesn’t believe me and she cards me later on. Anyway, we get a drink and proceed to the main level.

I see this bench and I sit on it and pull her in front of me so she is facing me. She has her hands on me and we are talking very intimately and we kiss each other. Then her friends find us they say to her, “Where the fu#k have you been?” Girl#1 is standing right there watching us. She tells her friends to go away and they reluctantly walk away. Then she proceeds to tell me that this is a bachlorette party and that girl#1 is getting married tomorrow. What? Why the hell was she dirty dancing with me and walking around the place holding hands earlier?

Now the big bombshell comes. Girl#2 proceeds to tell me that she is married. She says that it would not be good if her friends see us together so we should find an area that is more private. I suggest that we go upstairs. We go the next level up which in hind site might have been a mistake because there were still lots of people there. I should have taken her to the top level that has a little dance floor and places to sit.

So, we find a place to sit down and we start dirty talking and making out. She tells me that if she got divorced, she would totally date me. Then she starts asking me if I’m commitment phobic and she tells me that a lot of men are. So, I’m wondering if this girl is planning on divorcing her husband and is looking for a boyfriend first. I hope not because part of my goal with pheromones is to not be perceived as being relationship material. If a freaking married women is considering me relationship material then that means that I have not been able to shake that image. F#ck!

So, we kiss some more and it’s getting really hot. The chemistry between us is completely at the max. The amount of sexual tension between us that was not being resolved was incredible. I can guarantee that her panties were completely soaked by the way she was acting.

Then she asks me if I’m on Facebook. But then we notice an angry girl standing right there over us. She was not one of the girls in girl#2’s group. But judging by the way she reacted, I think she was a mutual friend of her and her husband.

Girl#2 gets this completely panicked look on her face. She says something like, “I am fu#cked. I know that girl. I am so fu#ked. Oh my God. I am so f#cked.”

So the angry girl motions girl#2 to follow her. I decide not to follow because it would look bad for her if I walk down with her. So, she stops and looks at me. I tell her to meet me at the main dance floor near the bar. She says, “OK” and then follows the angry girl.

So, I wait at the bar for about a half an hour but she doesn’t find me and I don’t see any of the girls in the group for the rest of the night. My guess is that they decided to eject from the venue and go into damage control mode to save girl#2’s ass. I felt this incredible sense of guilt and I was hoping that her friends are able to damage control the situation. On the other hand, what are married and engaged women doing going to seedy nightclubs flirting and hitting on strange men? Girl#2 was quite sober and was aware of everything that she was doing? What the hell is she doing passionately kissing a guy she doesn’t even know while being married?

I might be ruined for life now. If I ever get married and my wife has a late night out with her girlfriends at a nightclub, I’m probably going to think about this night. But if I tell her that going to a nightclub with her girlfriends is inappropriate, I will be labeled the jealous husband. Maybe it’s better to not get married in this day and age.

Anyway, once I stopped waiting waiting for girl#2, I spent the rest of the night moving from place to place in the nightclub trying to find another woman. But the nightclub turned to crap and was mostly guys. The women who where there completely had their guard up and were unapproachable. I would have ejected earlier but it was supposed to rain all night. I stayed till 4AM and had no hits the entire rest of the night. :frowning: I was wondering if my pheromones had evaporated. I kept on smelling my wrists to see if I could smell the A314 scent but I couldn’t anymore. :roll_eyes:

MetalTree, you the man. That was a really cool last post. Crazy hits and crazy experiences. I’m sorry that it turned out poorly but you have to know that you learned something from that experience. Even if you didn’t…you got some proof that you’re desirable.

Thanks pherophreak.

A ton more Crazy hits and crazy experiences have happened to me with pheromones in my life than ever happened without. Now that I know how effective pheromones are in changing my vibe, I never want to go out without them again.

If Instant Jerk was ever discontinued, I could replace it with Raw Power (when it comes out), The Edge, or NPA. But if A314 was ever discontinued, I don’t know what I would do. I don’t think that would be replaceable.

I bet there would be a black market for Alpha314. 200$ for a bottle, 250$ if its unopened. I would probably buy it.

Hell yeah, I’d pay that much for it if I had to.

Shh…
They might be watching.

Local Bar - No Real Hits

So, I went to my local bar tonight and I’m kind of drunk now. But I can still type so I’ll make my report. :slight_smile:

Tonight I work following:
1 Spray Instant Jerk to my throat
1 Spray Instant Honesty 2X to my throat on top of the Instant Jerk
1 Drop of A314 divided between my wrists.
1 Spray of Instant Honesty 2X divided between my wrists.

So, I go to my local bar expecting to see my favorite bartender but she is not there. She was replaced tonight by a bartender who I also am fond of but I’ve been avoiding her recently. One day when I went into the bar in the past, she was there as a customer. I didn’t recognize her and she got really pissed off at me for not recognizing her. But tonight she was friendly so she must have forgotten about that thankfully.

So, I sat at the bar for a couple of hours and had 4 drinks. The bartender chatted with me on and off but it was the same pattern as my pre-pheromone days. The bar wasn’t that crowded and there were no hits tonight.

As I was walking home, I walked by an old-man’s bar that is on the way home and I saw a blonde girl sitting at the bar. Of course, I had to go in but it turned out to be a waste. She was there with a guy. I end up drinking a fifth drink and I chatted with the old man next to me for about an hour. The old man really enjoyed talking to me so maybe the Instant Honesty did work. Hehe.

The best part of the night was when I left the bar. The blond girl looked at me in the eyes and said bye as I was walking out even though I didn’t talk to her and I was pretty drunk. That made me happy for some reason. Maybe because I’m so used to being invisible that it was nice to actually be noticed. :slight_smile:

What you said about being a bad talker…I’m in a similar situation and I have to recommend Spaceland. It’s been unbelievable for me as far self effects. One example..I went to this club last weekend and I ran into an old friend of mine there who introduced me to these two girls he was with who I didn’t know. Long story short, I ended up spending almost all my time there (about 4 hours) talking to these two girls about all sorts of things…it just flowed and it was pretty amazing considering that I’m no conversationalist, especially with women. I only had 1 spray Spaceland to hair, 60 mcg P83 to neck, 1 drop A314 wrists and 1 TUTH to chest.

60mcg P83! That probably had a helping hand in letting the words flow. So long as P83 really does what I suspect.