very, very true. this isn’t magic folks, it just provides you an additional arsenal and an ass is still an ass. however, my wife hates the smell of all the various pheros i have, so i wouldn’t count on the smell helping you with some women 
I gotta say I like this “Inner game” talk - very similar to some realizations I came too awhile ago (w.r.t. confidence and the art of attracting “quality” women)
Now if I was only a good gauge of what girls are good for me 
Blog was updated – it talks about getting your mind and your thoughts right so you can be congruent when your getting your actions and your game right.
Anybody on the forum read the DJ-Bible?
The Don Juan Bible: Hints, tips and articles on the art of seduction, romance, dating and courting (DJB, DJ)
90% you (+ DJ-Bible) & 10% pheromones ^^
cul8er.
So true. Mones open doors, but what you bring to the table, who you are, how you go from meeting girls will determine the outcome. It is just another POWERFUL weapon you can bring to the battle of sexes Don’t get me wrong. Having a sexy phero sig contribute much. Going up against someone with a sexy phero sig when you have none on, is equivalent to you, being a skinny dude, going up against a physically fit and muscular dude, when competing for a same, hot girl. A few more analogies include: a short dude going up against a tall dude; a poor dude going up against a rich dude; not so bright dude going up against an MD or PhD dude (very intelligent). All those factor in when girls determine what they want to do (ie pursue a relationship with you or sleep with you). Also, where they are in life and what they really want could influence her decision too.
Just like being good looking or tall doesn’t guarantee getting the girl, except generating some initial interest, mones don’t seal the deal, if you have nothing else besides that. That is why mones are~ 10% and you are the other 90% 
Hey, 10% point to the attraction doesn’t hurt though, does it 
Not bad at all, but I can definitely understand the motivation behind a post like this. I can imagine hundreds of guys if not thousands thinking they’ll buy some pheromone product and get the axe effect and not have to worry about developing their game or social skills. Worse yet they don’t even understand or recognize the subtle signs in a womans body language that indicate interest or attraction. So they are so busy looking for women that lose all self control, jump their bones and start dry humping them, that they miss out on signs of interest and decide the product is bogus because it didn’t do the work for them.
This is why I often recommend the Mystery Method, Rules of the Game, and Magic Bullets for newbies. Even if they don’t actually follow the model and use the techniques, the stuff on microcalibration and recognizing IOI’s is priceless knowledge for recognizing hits when they occur.
It’s awesome that a post from 2 years ago pops up and has a bounty of information haha.
The original post in this thread has 100% good food to feed your brain.
The bottom line: "WHAT DO YOU BRING TO TABLE?" people must ask themselves.
Great thread. I’ve found what you say very true in most aspects. Guys get this crazy idea they’ll get all sorts of rejection by pulling the trigger in many ways.
On the topic of touching, I find that if I can get her to touch me first, then bust her chops for it, (example being, “Why do you have to constantly touch me?”) it works wonders. Even if I can tease her to hitting me on the arm then accuse her of not being able to control herself it tends to go a long ways. That way the initiation is started.
As far as touching the neck…there are areas I’d never suggest anyone to start out touching, even if its lightly, based on research of male dominance and reactions from the opposite gender. Basic areas are hands, elbows, upper elbow (if things are going well.) and mid-back, (again if things are going well.)
And to the main point of pheromones…from my little experience they seem super subtle most of the time, then overtly over the top others. Something that can get the door open, but you have to have the stones to walk through.
I’ve told other guys what is the worse that can happen? She doesn’t like you? She poors a drink over your head? I’ve never once had anything even remotely close happen in my life.
Anyhow, great thread.
Thanks for putting it out there! WHen I told my friends about pheromones, they thought I meant that mones will just bring all the women to the yard.
I just want an extra tool to help me out is all
This is like 3 years old
fire I cant get to your blog for some reason
The guy disappeared from the site a couple years ago, his blog was deleted at basically at the same time that he disappeared.
I’ve wondered what happened to him - He was rather insightful… the couple of blog posts he had made were awesome too.