I’ve found that TAC solo greatly helps with falling asleep.
Falling asleep? P77 looks like a sandman for me.
Thanks Justintime. I’m in my late 40s so my natural none production must not be very high. All the same I’m going easy on the none heavy mixes. At least with this group of younger people.
Was wondering if the Shine oil is a good idea or not. I understand that a314, p74 and IH are a basic fallout mix. Thought the Shine might add some extra youthfulness but don’t know if it will damage any potential fallout effects.
I haven’t mixed my Hedione with the EOs because I use the EOs as a cover scent on top of the spray mones. Mones like Honesty and Shine oils are in Stealth, so don’t really need covering. I read that Hedione can affect negatively some mones if sprayed on top or mixed in, so I always apply the Hedione to a different area.
It’s a challenge finding sufficient real estate to apply all these things. Would be easier if I lived in the Caribbean. Could put mones on neck, arms, chest, back and lower legs. Look out Caribbean girls!
Have ordered some Iso E Super and will see how that works. Doesn’t agree with some people health wise, so will have to check that first.
Also bought some fragrances from the agarscents website recently. One (an ambergris based scent) was nice - astringent, marine, bracing and masculine. The second was unpleasant and the third was disgusting. Not a great hit rate! But one of the free samples they sent smelled great, so I’ve ordered a full size version. Full size for them means 3ml (!). It’s a little shocking to buy fragrances that cost about 60 times more per ml than a regular store bought fragrance.
Also bought samples elsewhere of Armani Code cologne and Cartier’s D?claration d’un Soir Intense. The Code smelled good to me but made my chest go all tight after application to the backs of my hands. Same effect the next day when I sniffed the Code sprayer.
The Cartier was less to my tastes, having a floral, rose based scent, but on the upside, didn’t cause breathing problems like the Code did. A reasonably sophisticated floral scent.
Warm, dark and mysterious scents are good for me. I’m not into the fruity, chocolatey, honey, foody scents that seem so popular these days. I want to cause arousal and intrigue with scents, not cause food hunger. Of course, if one day Androtics releases a new mix called Instant Chubbiness, based on a new phero called Faterone or Obesenol, I’ll have to (ahem) eat my words.
I also bought a fragrance from ASAQ. Supposed to be a quality product. Discovered afterward that ASAQ is a Saudi Arabian company. Given that Saudi Arabia has similar attitudes to religion, law and tolerance as Islamic State has, I don’t feel comfortable to purchase from them again.
I got some 5ml spray bottles from ebay. Like togos but a slightly different design. They put out a great little spray - almost as much as the spray from a 30ml bottle, and with very fine droplets. My other 5ml ebay bottles, the ones with a glass bottle inside a metal case, put out a tiny spray by comparison. The benefit of the bigger spray with smaller droplets is that the liquid is less likely to form little streams on the skin that trickle down your neck and chest, IME.
I’ve tried Justintime’s technique of wrapping teflon tape around the screw threads of a togo before screwing the sprayer back on. Discovered you need three hands to do this properly, so am using carpentry clamps when doing this from now on.
Tried eating celery again. Felt great for a few days until my prostate started complaining so have had to go easy on the celery. White Willow herb is great for the prostate (but not enough to fully offset the effects of celery).
Thanks Jdub, I’ll try TAC for sleep if I get insomnia again. Good suggestion.
Hey Conjurator, thanks for the p77 suggestion. I have that mone but haven’t had time to try it yet.
Today:
9.30am:
3 drops a314
10mcg p130
Eo mix
Worked in front of computer with a male client early 30s today for a couple hours. Got a very positive response from him. He complimented me at least twice on my professional skills. I guess that mix is erone-heavy and male-friendly. He also looked Asian or part Asian, so this is another of my mixes that seems to work well on Asians.
Three drops a314 work well for me, unless I’m with younger people, when 2 drops seem OK if well buffered or moderated.
The IShine should actually go very well with the A314, IH, and P74 with no issues at all. I actually use IShine with Enone and A314 as my base mix pretty much and then switch the others out once in a while.
I actually got some ISO E Super a while back and made a mix with Ammo and Hedione and it was just a disaster all together. The ISO is very power full and has a woody undertone to it and found it is best when used with certain colognes to embrace a more woody main scent. It’s molecular structure and weight is very similar to Hedione and other pheromone molecules.
I have also found the same exact thing with celery where my prostate throws a fit so I stopped eating and juicing the stuff altogether, I even have a saw palmetto based supplement I take to help with this and I still can not eat the stuff.
I tend to stick more with the spray pheromones due to the real estate issue myself as I layer some of the mones over each other because with the oils I am limited to that spot and the only oil based one I use usually is A314.
I am also adding some tags to your journal and hope it helps get this thing more hits and views.
10am
A314 3 drops below ears
IG 2 sprays to throat
TAC 4 sprays to throat
IH 4 sprays to backs of hands
Hedione 1 drop to wrists
Eo mix to throat over IG & TAC
Good meeting with Asian clients again. - female 20s and female 30s. They had the same awed respect for me. They treat me like I’m some kind of god. We have a business relationship and I have work I need to deliver to them, but the way they treated me, you would think that I was THEIR client, not the other way round.
I added an extra drop of a314. I also used TAC and IH in spray format, not as oils, so I wasn’t sure how to convert from drops of oil to sprays.
I was looking back at my old orders from Androtics back in 2009, when I first started using mones. I used only the instants line exclusively - Ammo, TUTH, IO, IH, IS, IG. That’s all. Back then, you couldn’t get the Stealth fragrance, only unfragranced. I used some EO mix in perfumer’s alcohol as a cover spray. I found the recipe for the EO mix on the net, then boosted one or two oils to suit my own preferences. And like an idiot, I sprayed the mones onto my hair only, thereby reducing diffusion and causing massive none buildup, which turned me into a cougar magnet. Which is fine, considering I was older than all of the women I bedded.
I got the usual compliments about my EO mix (plus mones) from various women. Except from one girl in her 20s, who I ended up having an ill-starred relationship with. She said the smell was disgusting, so I stopped using the EO mix and also the mones. Big mistake. Our sex life went downhill from there. She may have in fact been referring to the none buildup as much as the EO mix, something which I didn’t understand at the time.
Those Androtics instant sprays do really work. I can vouch for it from my personal experience. My game was mostly crap, yet still I managed to get laid with some very attractive women. I often applied the classic spray of TUTH below the navel, which encouraged some enthusiastic cocksucking from the cougars.
I remember one woman saying to me that I was really great in bed. I was OK in bed before mones, but mones definitely kicked it up a notch or five. I ended things with the same woman a few months later. Amicably. We had dinner together in our favorite restaurant, then I walked her to her car. Inside the car, we had a little chat and I kissed her good bye. But my mones must have had an effect on her. She became really quite amorous. Nothing extreme, just some very heavy petting. Heavy petting that went on for about two hours, that is. She wouldn’t come home with me, since I had just dumped her, but she couldn’t let me out of her car either. Funny situation. The blue balls afterward were not so funny, though.
The first time we had a date, we spent a great evening out then ended up in her car. Encouraged by my magnetic presence and my none buildup, she proceeded to give me a great blowjob and gracefully swallowed the result, which always puts a smile on your face. I think it’s kind of disrespectful to the man when a girl doesn’t swallow. Plus university research proves that semen contains hormones that are beneficial for a woman’s wellbeing. Women who either swallowed or had sex without a condom had better moods and a more positive mental outlook than women who didn’t swallow or had sex with a condom. I like to think that I made substantial contributions to that woman’s wellbeing for the few months we were together 
Another late 30s cougar made the first move on me. I think it was our second date, but I’m not sure. I’m used to making the first move, but Ammo + cougar = fun and games, that’s for sure. I ended things with her two or three months later too. We caught up a couple weeks later and went to see a movie or a show, can’t remember which. I walked her to her car and we sat and talked for a while. While my mones completely filled the air in her little subcompact car. We ended up necking for a couple of hours. Eventually I was able to convince her that we should go back to her place. That ended up being the last time we had sex together, but it was a great way to end things, because it was a great night of sex.
I think mones are a little like getting some basic game techniques for the first time. They open the door to new sexual experiences but it’s still up to you to not only walk through the door, but hold it together on the other side. I got laid but I didn’t fully change my beta attitudes, which came back to bite me later. Maybe if I’d used a314 back then things would have been different.
If I were a brand new user again, starting from scratch, I’d still start with the Instant line from Androtics, but I’d make sure that I also used a314 on a very frequent basis.
I still got laid plenty of times before starting to use mones, but using mones helped me to seduce way better looking women than I had before. Slim, beautiful, sexy females that other men lusted after.
I used to use a whole bunch of mones together. Ammo was a staple. Initially Ammo regular, then Heavy Ammo. It was combined with IO, IH and usually IS. TUTH was the sweetener and blowjob encourager when I was reasonably certain that the evening would end in sex. IG become a regular part of the mix, although sometimes I wore it alone or with some IH, especially if I met some girl’s parents.
7.15am
A314 2 drops below ears
IH spray 3 sprays spread across backs of both hands.
Shine oil 2 drops to back of neck
P74 15mcg to throat
P130 2 sprays to throat
Hedione 1 drop to wrists
Eo mix cover
Accidentally applied Hedione below ears, where a314 normally goes. Wiped it off with soap and water as soon as I realized my mistake, but maybe removal was not fully effective.
After applying all mones, felt quite irritable. Became irritated with my gf and was irritated going to work. Not a bitchy kind of irritation - more a “don’t fuck with me or else” kind of attitude. Not ideal. I don’t associate this with any of the mones I applied.
I think it was the combination of Hedione underneath the a314 that caused the irritability. I’ve heard that Hedione should not be mixed with mones because it boosts some mones and flattens others unequally. Maybe that is what happened with the a314. The Hedione threw the a314 out of balance somehow.
I felt OK prior to the Hedione + mones, then was vaguely irritable for the first half of the day. Must be more careful when applying mones in a hurry in the morning, especially when feeling a little tired. Hedione is fine for me as long as it is applied on its own area - preferably on the hands or wrists, or back of neck if necessary.
10.30am
4 drops a314 (by mistake)
4 drops Molecule C oil
4 drops p96 oil
Working with a new male client about 10 years older than me. He came in all cocky because that’s his nature. But after about 30 minutes of working with him, he became totally respectful and almost submissive, which seemed quite out of character for him. I was with him for about three hours and that continued for the duration.
Fragrance review: Arabian Nights by Jesus Del Pozo
Applied in the evening on the back of my left hand as a test.
According to Fragrantica, the main accords in this scent are woody, then oud, then amber/warm spicy/balsamic. This is a scent from Spain.
Initial scent was very floral - rose and something else. That disappointed me greatly but things soon improved. The floral top notes died away to be replaced with very woody scents. Cedarwood, sandalwood and oudh. The initial feminine topnotes were replaced by more masculine heart notes. My gf said it smelled quite masculine.
I showered a few hours later and scrubbed the back of my hand thoroughly. After drying myself I could still smell the scent on my hand. Very tenacious! Like enone, but even harder to remove.
I really liked this scent. I hope the woodiness is artificial since woody essential oils are antibacterial and therefore bad for use over mones. Will have to test it and find out.
how many mcg in a drop?
10mcg per drop, Von_phero. Supposed to hit slower yet harder than sprays, according to mobocaster and others. Certainly the initial self effects are nothing to speak of, IME.
I’ve been layering some of the new stealth oils. I’m used to layering sprays, but layering oils is a new experience. Haven’t layered any of them with a314 yet though. Have layered Honesty and Shine oils, plus Molecule C and p96 oils.
You are the very first I have heard of that is trying to layer the oils and am very interested in this and hearing more. If Conj reads this and has a few oils I wouldn’t be surprised if he try’s some crazy stunt with layering the oils to LOL.
10am
A314 4 drops below ears
P96 oil 4 drops, 2 of them layered over a314.
Eo mix nearby but not covering oils.
Good respect hits from my sister and gf. I got maybe a little too alpha in my driving technique on the road. Three drops a314 might be better in this situation in future.
Went to convenience store around 4pm. Attractive Chinese girl late 20s working there. Mild DIHL when she started serving me. She touched my hand unnecessarily with hers for a second or two when giving me my change. Unusual for a reserved looking and fairly precise and careful girl. She was quite precise about the transaction in other respects.
Layering oils seems OK at this stage. Have already layered Honesty and Shine oils on hands without any problems and with generally positive results. Will try this a314 and p96 oil layering again soon.
The fact that I’m still getting more hits from Asian girls might be due to to the erone heavy mixes I’ve been using. Because of my age, maybe I need to add some enone (eg via TUTH or Ammo) to see more results from Caucasians. I’m half Asian, half Caucasian myself, so that is probably an important factor too. I should read Jdub & Justintime’s race code project thread again.
5mcg TUTH, 20mcg TAC to throat at midnight.
Next morning blowjob. I instigated it but she complied willingly and actually thanked me after she had swallowed.
Fragrance report: Akkad Lubin
This is a unisex perfume. When I applied it, I thought it smelled feminine, but my girlfriend’s first response was that it seemed masculine. The fact that we had just had sex an hour before might have colored her response, however.
According to Fragrantica, Akkad by Lubin is an Oriental Spicy fragrance for women and men. Akkad was launched in 2012. The nose behind this fragrance is Delphine Thierry. Top notes are mandarin orange, bergamot and clary sage; middle notes are cardamom, elemi, olibanum and styrax; base notes are amber, labdanum, vanila and patchouli.
Once this dried down after 15 minutes, I started to appreciate it more. But after a couple of hours I decided it wasn’t for me and ended up washing it off. Definitely prefer the Arabian Nights by Jesus Del Pozo so far, because it smells more masculine and woody.
Yesterday:
8am
P74 20mcg to backs of hands
IH 4 sprays to backs of hands
Arabian Nights cologne cover spray
Evening:
One half drop Agarscents Agar Musk to wrists. Agar refers to oudh or oud. The scent smelled terrible and stinky at the start, but after 30 mins or so, turned into a lovely smooth, warm and dark scent. Sillage not great but longevity very good. Sillage is improved by putting a drop onto the palms of your hands then wiping them on your clothes, being careful to avoid fabrics that might stain.
I slept with a half drop on my wrists overnight. Woke up the next morning with a much more serious and long duration hardon than usual. Unfortunately GF was dead tired from*the long day and late night before, so didn’t wake her. Wore 10mcg TAC on my throat as well for improving sleep quality. I’ve worn the TAC before for sleep (thanks to Jdub’s suggestion, which worked great) but never noticed any sexual self effects from the TAC. So it must be down to the Agar Musk. Whether it is the oud component of the Agar Musk or the musk component that is responsible for the substantial libido boost, I don’t know. Could be a synergistic effect that involves both. I have another fragrance that is musk without oud, so I’ll try that soon.
Today:
Wore the agar musk oil on skin and on clothes, to boost sillage. Felt mentally confused and anxious after application. These negative effects increased as the day wore on. Pity because the scent is amazing. Unfortunately I think that real oud is not for me. Fake oud is safer. I can’t wear a fragrance that makes me confused and anxious. Arabian Nights and similar commercial fragrances are mostly synthetic, so they are probably a safer choice.
Also wore IH 4 sprays and 20mcg p74 on backs of hands. Maybe too much IH? This is meant to be a fallout mix for 18-20 caucasian females. I’m getting some initial signs of fallout from a skinny young brunette, as well as from a big boned young redhead the day before. The brunette is a little more obvious than the redhead in terms of IOIs. But they are both choosing to sit in the seats closest to me now, which is cute. And they are giving me occasional shy little smiles. I’ll see what happens over time. Omitting the a314 this week was probably a good idea, which I got from one of mobocaster’s posts.
Later in the afternoon, I washed off all the Agar Musk and applied 2x a314 below ears, 20mcg p74 to backs of hands and IH 2 sprays to backs of hands, with Arabian Nights as cover. Felt much better than when I was covered in Agar Musk. Felt like myself again. Had good interactions with clients, both male and female.
Used alcohol wipes to clean off the Agar Musk earlier. They are meant for cleaning eyeglasses, computer screens and camera lenses. Since they come in a little flat sachet, they are easy to carry. Even easier than a small bottle of hand sanitizer. And they worked quite well to remove the Agar Musk, which is quite tenacious.
sounds like you got your libido issues sorted out (-; by the way I wouldn’t say it was the pheromones giving you a boner when you wake up… You should have one naturally every morning… its a sign of better health in my books..
You’re striking my curiosity with that Agar musk. I’ll definitely try to get my hands on some. Thanks.
Yes you’re right, Von phero. There might have been another, non-nutritional cause of my libido issues, one which I’m in the process of tracking down. It will take some time, so I’ll know more eventually.
Conjurator, I bought the Agar Musk from eBay. Agarscents’ ebay shop is called Agaressence, from memory. Or you can also buy from their Etsy shop. Just search for Agarscents on either platform.
Yes the Agar Musk was a great scent, IMO. I also have their Kashmiri Musk Ultimate, which is another great scent. I’ll do a report on that when I’ve worn it for a whole day.
Unlike Arabian vendors like ASAQ, Arabian Oud, Al Rehab, Al Jamal or Swiss Arabian, Agarscents only use natural ingredients. This is clearly discernible in their fragrances. They are more expensive but smell cleaner. The scents might not have the sillage of a modern chemical scent like 1 Million, but their animal warmth and subtlety is sufficient compensation. Plus applying them to your clothes like I did will boost the sillage.
I recently tried a scent called Jannet El Firdaus from Swiss Arabian. I got a really bad headache from the scent. It wasn’t a bad fragrance. It resembles a fougere. A relatively high class one. But there are some chemical components that caused a strong headache for me.
Natural animalic scents like the ones from Agarscents are in a completely different class. Some of them smell bad in the bottle but good on the skin after 30 minutes or so. That’s true of some artificial scents too, of course. But moreso with the animalics. And some animalics are just too out there for some people to wear. Some guys like wearing some animalics more than their women like smelling them. The only way to know is to test.
I have a Black Ambergris Indian Ocean scent that I’ll try soon too. Ambergris is a clearly masculine scent to my nose.
Yesterday:
2 sprays a314b to backs of hands
2 sprays IH to same
20mcg p74 to same
Often when I wear a314b spray I get great self effects. It must be the synergistic combination of the a314 and the Akuto fragrance. I get cocky and funny without trying. C&F is usually extremely difficult for me. My game basically sucks ass. But not when I put a314b on my hands. Weird, huh?
I was working with a client, an 18 year old girl. Her parents are Asian. Her father was sitting near her for the entire session. I had to make an effort to rein in my C&F vibe so that I didn’t make her laugh too much. Inside I felt free, powerful and willing to challenge convention. But I had to restrain myself externally.
A314 x3
P96 oil x4
Nice service from 20s brunette in restaurant. Helpful, friendly and smiling. And respectful at the same time.
Even more respect from a 20s Indian girl server in the same restaurant. Apparently erone hits Indians in a similar way to Asians.
Colognes:
I’ve realized that pheromones are a gateway drug to ridiculously expensive colognes. Initially I thought my mones expenditure was a little excessive. Then it got worse. Then it got even worse. Then I discovered high end colognes and animalics.
When you see an upmarket commercial fragrance that costs $400 a bottle and say to yourself, “Well it must be good then,” that’s a sign that you’re possibly beyond help.
I tried Agarscents’ Black Ambergris Indian Ocean Solide Parfum Naturel 7ml. This is not a ridiculously expensive cologne. Quite cheap at $35.50. You only get 7ml though, which makes it about five times more expensive than your average $100 bottle of cologne. The Solide Parfum is meant to be stronger than a regular Parfum. According to this, the list in diminishing order of strength goes Solide Parfum, Parfum, Eau de Parfum, Eau de Toilette, Eau de Cologne, Aftershave.
This Solide Parfum didn’t have super intense strength, despite what the description said. The spray is quite small but you still need more than one spray per application. The fragrance was pretty good though. Very different from what I had expected from merely sniffing the sprayer, however. Much softer, smoother and sweeter than expected. I have been contemplating giving this one to my GF, due to its sweetness and softness. I’ve heard that sweet colognes are very popular among teenage boys these days, but I’m not a teenager.
Yves Saint Laurent M7 Oud Absolu cologne:
Fragrantica says: La Collection M7 Oud Absolu by Yves Saint Laurent is a Oriental Woody fragrance for men. La Collection M7 Oud Absolu was launched in 2011. Top note is mandarin orange; middle note is patchouli; base notes are french labdanum, myrhh and agarwood (oud).
I say: Goes on fairly intense and sweet, which is not surprising. After 10 to 20 minutes it starts to calm down. Despite its sweetness, it’s enjoyable. Fragrantica user polls rate its sillage as Moderate, which I would agree with. As a mones user, I’d prefer stronger sillage, although there seem to be two schools of thought on that one. Some like big sillage so that their mones attract attention right away. Others in crowded bars or clubs feel that excessive sillage means that other guys can “steal” their mones signature. In effect, a girl might respond to a nearby guy thinking that he is the a314/Ammo/IH/IS-wearing stud of her dreams, when in fact she is inadvertently smelling your mones. I’m not experienced enough yet to make this distinction, but others have written about mone cloud theft before.
Although it has “oud” in the name, the only oud it contains is synthetic, otherwise I wouldn’t even be testing it, after my bad physical reaction to genuine oud (despite loving its smell).
The longer I wear this scent, the better it smells. Still more feminine and sweet than I would like, though. But at least it is warm and dark.
No negative physical reactions to this cologne - no breathing problems, no headache etc. Which is good news.
Overall I’m liking this scent. Would I buy a whole bottle of it? Not sure yet. I’d have to wear it a few more times to know. Since I have a 5ml sample bottle, I’ve easily got a few more tries with it.
Today I got hold of a tola (a 12ml bottle) of Musk Al Ghazal by Al Haramain. It’s meant to smell like Black Musk from deer, but uses no actual deer ingredients. Initial sniffing of the bottle is good. Not super dark and animalic, but not light, fluffy or feminine like white musk usually is. Plus it is very cheap. Shipping from the UK cost more than the item itself. Will report on that another time.
Made a new EO mix yesterday. 10 drops Vanilla, 10 drops Jasmine (3%, not absolute), 10 drops Neroli. Mixed into 30ml perfumer’s alcohol. This doesn’t have the sillage of Androtics’ Neroli fragrance, but at least it contains a decent amount of Neroli and smells a little similar. Plus it makes you feel pretty good, thanks to the Neroli and the Vanilla. Unless you apply too much - then you get a headache. I think the number of drops I used needs to be revised downwards in future versions. 30 drops of EO in 30ml of PA is probably excessive.
5.40pm:
15mcg p74 to hands
2 sprays IH to hands
2 sprays a314b to hands
Cologne (YSL M7 Oud Absolu) to hands
7.20pm:
2 sprays Ammo 2x to neck
Cologne (YSL M7 Oud Absolu) beside Ammo app points
Scene:
Small birthday party for a female friend. About 15 people were there. Everyone was sitting down around a big table, although it was fairly casual.
Took me a while to get into the swing of things, because my socializing skills are very rusty. Late 30s/early 40s woman 7/10 with a very hot bod smiled at me. I smiled back at her but didn’t go over and open her. I probably should have but I was not feeling very confident at that stage.
When a couple of seats opened up, I went and sat next to a blonde who looked like 30-32 (but was in fact 40 years old). Trim, 8/10.
Talked to her and a guy sitting next to her. I assumed they might have been a couple, but they were not.
Another guy came into the group and introduced himself. Very friendly, alpha kind of guy. It was a real education just watching how he carried himself and seeing how he was able to open us in a relaxed, friendly, confident way. Some beta guys mistakenly think that alpha = asshole, but that’s not true. Sometimes it is, but often it is not.
The blonde I was sitting next to seemed increasingly interested in me, although the alpha guy was interested in her. Since the blonde already knew I was taken, I didn’t push things. The 8/10 brunette looked my way a few times. I was meaning to go talk to her but she left before I had a chance to.
So although it sounds like a disastrous night, I regard it as fairly successful. I got IOIs from two of the three best looking women there. The best looking woman there (a 9/10) happened to be a glamorous late 30s early 40s blonde lesbian who was there with her girlfriend.
I view the evening as a confidence building exercise for myself. Baby steps. I realize that true confidence should come from within and should exist independently of any IOIs from women, hot or not. But realistically, getting those IOIs is a simple way of rebuilding my confidence and improving my game.
I went there looking fairly smart yet casual. Even the alpha guy said that I looked stylish. Looking a lot younger than my age also helps. I’m working on myself in many different ways. The Ammo and a314b (plus residual IH and p74) certainly helped. Even wearing a cologne that I liked was helping to boost my confidence.
I feel that for me (and for many other guys) breaking out of the beta mindset is one of the central challenges of my life. I’ve had very strong alpha confidence in the past, but it was shaken by various life events and my responses to them. Because I work with a lot of women in my professional life, it is a priority to learn how to deal with them in a more alpha way. Of the people I’ve met who have ever screwed me over (personally or professionally), virtually all have been female. I’d say that points to a problem within me. But it is a problem that I am in the process of resolving.
Didn’t mean to get so heavy. But overall I’m pleased with the mones and pleased with the various steps I’ve been taking to improve myself. They are both working.
Brief cologne report:
Discovered another cologne I really like. It’s Dior Homme Intense. To me it smells like half way between YSL M7 Oud Absolu and Androtics’ Akuto fragrance (as used in the a314b spray). I’m a big fan of the Akuto fragrance, as are many others here. Plus I like my m7 Oud Absolu. So Dior Homme Intense might be a good compromise.
Summer Ammo stealth 4x to throat
1 drop a314 spread beneath both ears
Dior Homme Parfum cover spray
The Dior Homme Parfum has quite impressive sillage, so it helped to spread the Ammo mones well. From memory it was applied beside the Ammo app points, but I’m not 100% sure.
I always get great self effects from Dior Homme Parfum (DHP) (and from Dior Homme Intense (DHI)) and that day was no exception. Combined with the lesser self effects of the Summer Ammo, I felt pretty good.
Went to train station to wait for a train. Sat down between a couple and a slim blonde female early 40s. Felt her gaze on me but didn’t look at her. Should have checked her out properly and given her the (masterful) eye.
When train arrived, i went in with several other people. I found a group of four empty seats, made up of two pairs of seats facing each other. I sat down in a window seat facing forward. Ten seconds later, the blonde sat beside me.
That’s unusual because normally people would choose the diagonally opposite seat in order to have the maximum personal space. But she didn’t.
She got off a few stops later. A late 20s brunette came and took her spot, again sitting beside me. Once might be a coincidence but twice is curious.
Because I’m older, I can get away with 4 sprays of Summer Ammo, but a younger man couldn’t. And I guess the extra steering mone/s in Summer Ammo also made it more acceptable to younger females. Apparently it contains p130 which achieves this effect.
I need to take advantage of the leverage that mones give me and start opening the women who give me IOIs. I’m so unused to these IOIs in recent years that I’m always surprised when a woman notices me. The mones are opening the door for me but I’m not walking through. Yet.
Fragrance report
Valentino Uomo
Nice refined scent. A “gourmand” scent, meaning someone who loves their food, because it smells sweet and makes you think of eating.
Some people say it is like Dior Homme Intense. But to me it smells more like YSL M7 Oud Absolu.
Valentino Uomo, despite its name, is also a slightly feminine scent which could be worn by a woman if she wanted.
Unlike the other two scents I mentioned, this one doesn’t change much on drydown. It remains more or less the same.
After wearing it on the back of my hand and sniffing it from time to time, I found I had a slight headache. I don’t remember getting a headache from DHI or YSL M7 OA, so that’s something different. The headache might disappear with repeated wearing of this scent, so I could try it again another day and see how it goes.
The longer I wore this, the more feminine it smelled. After an hour, it smelled like a woman’s fragrance more than a man’s.
Nice enough cologne but I’ll pass on this one. Too feminine and too headachey for me. Some people think that DHI is more feminine than this one. That’s a matter of personal opinion, I guess. For me, Valentino Uomo is more feminine than DHI.
But Valentino Uomo is a popular scent because of it has a lot of obvious appeal, so you should check it out for yourself if you’re interested. Buy a small sample or test it out in a department store before shelling out for a whole bottle.
Been a while since I posted. I’ve been exploring the dark side (non-Androtics mones) with some successes and some failures. Both have generally been associated with products that contain a1 or just straight a1 on its own. Successes involve results like imprinting and fallout. Failures involve fatigue, lethargy and low mood.
Among mones users who are more experienced than me, there are two schools of thought on a1. One school says that you can build up an immunity to a1 by starting with small doses and gradually increasing, almost like an inoculation process. The other school (as found on another phero forum where people are a lot less polite, respectful and considerate than here on PheroTalk) holds that long term a1 users will eventually become unable to tolerate a1 any more, even if they are initially OK for a year or more.
My experience has been different to both schools. Granted I haven’t used a1 for several years like some have. But I’ve had days when I felt perfectly fine wearing a1, and other days where I just wanted to go home and go to bed, I felt so tired and flat.
As I mentioned in another a1 thread here on PheroTalk, one rock solid, scientifically proven aspect of a1 is that it raises cortisol levels in the wearer. That’s an accepted fact in the medical and scientific communities. Google androstadienone and cortisol and you’ll see for yourself.
Since I have my own issues with high cortisol levels, I’ve learned how to control them with diet, lifestyle, vitamins and herbs.
As my own cortisol levels have fluctuated (determined through self observation, not through blood tests), my ability to tolerate a1 has fluctuated too. If I don’t get enough sleep, consume too much sugar or alcohol, don’t take my vitamins etc, then my cortisol levels will rise and I won’t be able to tolerate any a1. Taking a break from any a1 products for several days, getting earlier nights and taking appropriate supplements seem to fix the problem.
I know Androtics has stopped using a1 because some users experienced severe, suicidal depression from it. My experience suggests that this is avoidable. However to avoid it, you need sufficient awareness and self discipline to manage your own cortisol levels. That’s too big an ask for many people. So it’s understandable that Androtics has stopped using a1.
Another area I’ve been exploring has been colognes. I fell down the rabbit hole and started spending a lot of time and money on designer colognes. This developed into an interest in niche fragrances, which are even more expensive than designers.
The whole thing was getting a bit out of hand until I saw a Youtube video about fragrance addiction. That opened my eyes to my own behavior and I’m reining things in now. When you realize that you have enough bottles of cologne to spray yourself daily for the next three or four years, it’s time to stop.
I’ve also noticed I’ve been getting slightly dark circles under my eyes from wearing cologne on my neck. It’s been wafting up into my nose. I’ve been inhaling the aromachemicals in large quantities. It’s been intoxicating but it’s not good for me. I look tired even though I’ve had enough sleep. So I need to apply cologne to the sides of my neck, to the back or to wrists/hands instead.
Yesterday:
4 drops MX597 oil
2x heavy Ammo to neck left
2x TAC 10mcg to neck right
Dior Homme Intense cover
Good connection with very pretty female Asian client mid to late 20s and Caucasian female 30s. Also was working with a cute girl 20yo Caucasian, who was unfortunately sick with a head cold. Probably couldn’t smell much. She was compliant with all my requests and instructions while working together, but I didn’t really get anything from her. Half the time she was trying not to sneeze or drip from her nose, poor girl.
Female Asian client seemed quite happy to stand quite close to me. Sometimes that was necessary because we had to look at a very small screen together, but other times she would maintain the same physical proximity even after we had finished looking and were just talking.
Once I was kneeling down trying to get a view of something in the middle distance. She had parked her pretty butt on the side of an armchair, directly blocking my view. I gave her a friendly poke in the butt with a large implement I was holding (no, not THAT implement heheh) and she apologized, laughed and moved out of the way.
I wouldn’t normally behave that way with a client but (a) we were in a hurry and (b) I felt she was relaxed enough not to take offense and (c) my game and confidence have been gradually improving.
This was the second time we had met. At the first meeting I was wearing 4x MX597 oil only, plus Dior Homme Parfum sprayed nearby but not on top, from memory.
This female Asian client has a boyfriend so I won’t be trying to escalate. Plus there is the chance of further work from her in future, which is important to me from a professional point of view. She was happy with the work I produced and mentioned that she would be interested in doing future projects together.
Anyway a generally successful interaction overall, thanks to both me and the mones.