When picking a girl- MONEY, LOOKS or CHEMISTRY?

Who would you pick for a LTR and possibly marriage?
All of them have decent/nice personality, but:

  1. super hot and sexy; pretty fun and social; however, she has tattoos and might be a bit wild. I get along REALLY well. She gets feisty at times. She doesn’t have much schooling. She seems nice and treats me well…I get respected from other guys too, thanks to her SEXINESS. :)We both have that fun wild side; she likes me leading and she enjoys going with my flow and ride :smiley:

2)just alright in looks -about -5 but SUPER rich. Her parents have over $500 million in assets. They can open me my own clinic and research facility :open_mouth:

  1. really smart - studies med - nice and cute. She comes from decent background. Her family is alright; a nice middle class folks. She is kind of shy but we get along pretty well; charming and caring personality

  2. SUPER sexy. She gets feisty at times. She likes shopping. She doesn’t have much schooling. She seems nice and treats me well…
    I get respected from other guys too, thanks to her SEXINESS. Don’t know she would be a good mother. However, YOU NEVER KNOW :slight_smile:

  3. Next is really young - just about to turn 20. A very youthful glow and lovely look and personality. Not rich but decent. Conservative with a dash of fun side. Respectful and considerate. Did I mention, still YOUNG and FRESH :cool:

Man, too much to consider… I would say the rich one ,or possibly, the smart med student…
Who would you pick?

I’d I were you, I’d pick the one with the biggest cup size, the biggest bank account…and of course…the blondest hair! :smiley:

I would pick the one I love. :slight_smile:

Bella

If you are considering marriage, look at her values and see if they are compatible with yours. If a girl shares many of your values, and lives according to those values, you will likely consider her to be a good wife and mother.

You should be attracted to her, but expecting her looks or sexiness to win respect of your buddies for you is not the best idea. You need to respect yourself, and command the respect of your peers on your own before you look for a woman.
If she is comfortable with her femininity she will likely stay attractive over the years, so I’d look at that.

I wouldn’t worry too much about her family, as long as they are acceptable or she has distanced herself from the unacceptable ones. If you marry for the money, you will work for it. What if your father in law threathens to take away your business unless you obey him?

Nor would I worry too much about schooling, as long as she applies herself with some discipline to some respectable job or hobby. Of course, she should be intelligent enough to be compatible and at ease in the circles you traffic in.

Look for a girl who sees the best man you can be, who builds you up and admires you.

You’re not marrying a bank account, and you’re not marrying the looks from other guys for having eye candy on your arm. You’d be marrying a person you’ll be spending a whole lotta time with. Who’s the one that treats you the best, the one you feel the best when you’re with her.

Oh boy… your questions made me think about one of those ‘bachelor’ shows LOL

Hmm so let’s see…

  1. Ms.Super hot and sexy may get you respect from your buddies, but when she’s 60 are you still going to find her sexy regardless of your buddies?

  2. Love and money don’t go together :wink: Do you love her or her money? :stuck_out_tongue:

  3. I hope she doesn’t know that you’re laying out your options here lol

  4. If you don’t know if she’d be a good mother… there’s a problem if you want to be a father

  5. Youth does not last forever

LTR and marriage is based on love that is very strong. Don’t be offended baby but from, your questions I don’t think you know what marriage is about… not saying that you wanna get hitched just telling what I think.

Beauty usually fades with age, Youth is just a phase, and Money comes and goes.

Love is what binds it all together. When you’re in love, you see beauty with your heart instead of your eyes. You wont love her cause she looks sexy but she’ll look hot and sexy cause you love her. You may not be rich, but when you’re truly in love and you want to support her and yourself with the best… you will bust your ass, it might be difficult but there’s more merit in that than having her mum or dad bossing you around for using their money. And lastly when you’re truly in love, you will always be young at heart. And all this ultimately brings you happiness. (Credits to Tisha lol)

Plus, I’ve always thought that when it comes to marriage, you don’t choose 1 girl from a list of 5 like that. You’ll just know that she’s the one.

None of them.

If you need to ask us this question then your not ready for a long term relationship with any of them. When you find the person that you want to be in a LTR with or marry none of the shallow things you mentioned ever come into play.

Money will be lost and made and lost again all your life. Plus daddy’s money is not her money. My daddy had money to but its not mine.

Looks fade for both of you with time.

Smart doesn’t guarantee happiness.

Dont mistake the reaction from other guys when your with a hot girl as respect. Envy and Respect are two different things. Half the time they are thinking the same thing you think when you see another guy with a hot girl. “what the hell she see in that guy”

Young and fresh is fleeting.

At no time did you ever mention how any of these women made you feel which tells me your heart is not engaged in this decision. You may as well put there names in a hat and pick one because all of the relationships will end the same way.

I couldnt of said it better then Selva just did. Thanks for the credit, its good to know someone is actually hearing me LOL :wink:

Everyone always asks me well how will I know ? You will feel it… Not with the northern hemisphere of your body (Your brain) Not with the lower hemisphere of your body (Your groin) but right in the middle of your torso (Your heart) and that feeling will spread out to both the north and the south and consume you. Then you will know and you wont have to ask us.

Tisha

Its your call anyway, but other insight wont hurt either :slight_smile:
everybody has his own agenda , love, money ,looks,sex and you will never miss these .
cutting into the point :
What is the questions that ONLY she would answer ?

I have formulated my own list ..and I’m still refining :stuck_out_tongue:

1-Question of greatness : “behind every great man there is a great woman”
so , does she has that X factor ? how does she treat her relatives and vice versa ?
will you expect her to push you to your limits ? what is her reflection on you?

2-Similarity :because lot of differences will be provoked at long term,i.e using language ,like u r saying the same phrase at the same time.an outsider can help you on this point ,also her “resting” environment and self conscious choices.

3-Her choice : remember that LTR/Marriage is between you two ,what does she think of you?

If you found 3 questions too much , I offer you one single question :
WHY you are seeking LTR /Marriage ?
(some say ,to get comfortable,to talk to somebody,to have stable sex, to raise a family..) go superficial or deep as you wish, but remember ,

your answer .. is your choice.

You ignored the most important asset - cooking.

I shared with my children the venerable advice:

Looks fade.
Passion cools.
Cooking lasts.

Not that I’ve followed my own advice! Wife #1 was a classic Southern Shotgun Wedding at age 17 so I guess that one was the result of lust.

Wife #2 was for money and security - yes, I earned the Porsche but it wasn’t worth it.

Wife #3 - can’t cook either.

Well, thank you all for great advices. Yea, I guess I should look deep inside and figure out my feelings first…

I guess my biggest problem is that I don’t know if I can TRULY love a girl. I even once told some people that I might marry someone that I might NOT even love. Some of them told me that I would eventually fall-in love with them overtime or that I would find someone to love. Well, I am skeptical. I don’t know.
My having innocent crush and having that butterfly feeling with someone is not there anymore. I REALLY liked some girls - about FIVE - I mean REALLY- but after being neglected, shut down, and even used by some, that feeling all vanished. In high school and even early days of college, I was that CLASSIC NERD, who was left out… The past doesn’t bother me anymore, but it made me get into a lot of things to change and get “better”… I think I tried to task an easy way out by trying to go find girls in night scents
(bars, lounges, clubs, strip clubs, etc) for some hook-ups and get fast ones, not to mention get something going with girls from these places. Maybe, that is why I probably missed some of the NICE ones that I came across too…

Who knows though? I might find someone who I can TRULY love soon. If not, I am willing to settle for a decent girl to have a family with. Raise the family and just live a quiet life, I suppose. I know, this seems cynical, but I am getting old (>28 years) and need to settle down and be a decent father… Sometimes, I realize that what others around me think and what society expects influence my thoughts and behaviors, but that is just who I am. what can I do…?!?

Well, I’m also in my late twenties and I know it is not easy to have not met the one yet when it is expected to marry. Truth is, if you want a love marriage, there is a risk of not having met the one at 40 and thus probably not having children. You may not fall in love next decade, or she may not love you back. For me personally, it is worth the risk because I would only want children in a marriage that is loving and that I think has a good chance to last a lifetime. Nobody is perfect and it is hard to learn to live with someone and share responsibilities and raise good kids. Without love to soften the rough edges, make the best parts shine and pull a couple together, maybe too hard. To have a good marriage, you need to give 110%, and to do that I must love a man.

I’ve read that research showed that arranged couples, after 15 years of marriage are as happy as romantic couples, so maybe it can work without love but I think it also depends on your expectations. Some older people from my mum’s country have happy marriages that were arranged, but I don’t think it has much chance of working for our generation. When I look at nonwestern people under 40 that got arranged while living in Europe, and also at a few western people who married someone without love because they wanted children, could not cook or had financial issues, it looks grim.

When you pass 25, in my opinion it is not necessary to settle straight away, but I do think it is good to do what you can do to be ready when you meet the right guy or girl. Why not take the time of waiting to learn the skills you need to be a decent husband and father? And make plans for your career that make you feel proud and fulfilled…you mentioned dreaming about clinic and research facility…I’m not sure what exactly you do, but you seem like a smart and disciplined guy from your posts. I trust you can make your dreams into solid, realistic plans. Another thing you can do is get over the need to use a woman to impress friends, it can really put off a woman who might otherwise make a great wife. A good book to learn alternative ways to gain a good status in your circle, and help you with career networking is “How to Win friends and Inflience people.” by Dale Carnegie. In the end, it does not really matter too much if you marry at 28 or 31 or 34, so as long as you are ready, don’t worry too, too much.

Maybe a focus on fast sex has indeed made it harder to meet a girl who is interested in settling down. It is not really black and white and some people sleep together within weeks yet stay together for life, but it may be better when you spend some time getting to know eachother without having sex. Lust can sometimes blind you to incompatibility, but if you really enjoy each others company a lot when sex is not on the menu, you certainly have something in common. You don’t have to turn down a girl if she really wants to do it, but some guys make a point of moving on if a girl is not open to early sex and miss out om some really nice ladies who feel they need to know a man and love him in order to want to share their bodies. It isn’t really about where you meet them, with some exceptions, because most women go to bars but also dinner parties, family picnics, library etc. and they would be the same woman but if you are focussed on hooking up you may miss out because you can give off a player vibe.

Are you familiar with the term “Follow your joy and money will follow.”? If not, well there is a term and that’s how it goes. I’d like to think it’s pretty self explanatory. Essentially it means that if you choose a career in a field that you are genuinely interested in, have a natural aptitude for and enjoy…something that makes you motivated to get out of bed in the morning, and focus on that instead of money, the money will come naturally as a side effect.

I’m inclined to believe that this likely holds true with women as well. In David Deida’s book “Way of the Superior Man” he speaks often of being true to your core (following whatever you feel is your deeper life purpose, that which completes you) and living on your edge (ie taking risks and stepping outside your comfort zone in pursuit of your core purpose)…even to the point that it takes precedent over the woman in your life (note I do not say “to the exclusion of”). Vin Dicarlo repeats this advice to a degree in his programs S-Cubed (Sexual Selection Switch) and Dominant Sexual Power. However he refers to it as the trait of having a grand vision that is more important to you than any woman ever could be. And the tactic of compliance with regard to this vision. I realize this sounds underhanded and manipulative but it’s not really. I have no interest in a woman making me the absolute center of her universe anymore than I would be willing to make her mine. However, if a woman can on occasion show support either through simple encouragement, or even actual tangible assistance in the pursuit of my vision, that’s a keeper.

Essentially as with most things let go of outcome expectations and simply figure out what your core purpose in life is, your grand vision as it were…and pursue it. The passion and determination you display in the pursuit of your vision will be an attractive trait to women, and you have the ultimate criteria for determining which one is a suitable lifetime PARTNER. You may be torn between the “10” that has playboy quality looks but is extremely high maintenance, demanding constant attention and will serve as a distraction from your lifes ambition…and on the other hand may be a woman that most at first glance would write off as a 7, yet she understands you have a vision. This girl knows that the pursuit of your vision may mean that you aren’t able to spend a large quantity of time with her, but the quality will be better as you will be feeling more accomplished and fulfilled as a man. Because of this she doesn’t “accept” or “tolerate” your vision, but actively encourages it and even enjoys being part of it.

Don’t mistake this as using women financially and assume I suggest choosing the rich girl. I’m talking about willingness and enthusiasm to support your dreams. A girl that’s flat broke but is willing to sit and wait an extra half hour while you finish a project that leads in the direction of your vision is far better for you than a wealthy girl that wants you to drop everything the moment she shows up because she desires attention.

You weren’t trying to take the easy way out really. You just were not ready to settle down yet. We all change with time and your getting to a place where your needs and desires are different then they used to be. When you were younger you were just looking to hook up, hang out, have fun with some hot girls.

Now your evolving from a boy to a man and when we evolve we generally end up needing a change of environment. Sure there are plenty of hot girls in clubs bars etc etc but your looking for a women now. Someone to share your life. Its not likely you will find her where all the girls are hanging out. There is a big difference in boys and men and girls and women. Its maturity. Just like boys go to bars to have a good time girls go for the same reason. Not to find Mr Right. We look elsewhere for that.
This is not to say you cant find them in these environments its just harder to peel back the layers to get to whats real and whats all for show.

I am not saying to stop going to these places because they are fun but open yourself up to people in other places as well. You will find her and you will know when you do.

Listen to butterfly she gave it to you straight and its great advice.

Tisha

Typically

Where? (serious question)

Hey there, CoolKat!

I think this is a very interesting topic. When I started reading your post, to be honest I expected it to be from some clueless early-20s guy. Clearly you aren’t, and it sounds like you are a med student/graduate, meaning you’re well on your way to what many people would call an enviable life.

I can very much relate to your thoughts on love and marriage, though. I would suggest that you pick the girl who you respect. You’ll be spending the rest of your life with her, and while trophy wives are great, I think being with someone who has goals in life similar to yours is infinitely more important. With which of the girls do you think you’re the best that you can be? Do any of them make you feel inspired and motivated?

A few years ago, my sister was ending a relationship with a man whom she almost married. At the time he tried winning over my support for him to help her come back to him. He had said that since my father was dead and I was the head of the family, that when he spoke with me, it was as if he were speaking to my father. knowing him as I did and knowing how my father was, this is what I told him and I suggest you keep this in mind because this does ring more true for a LTR/marriage than what looks/money or personality alone do.

“Marriage is a life long journey you take with your best friend. You should compliment each other and prop each other up where the other is deficient. You should help each other grow emotionally, spiritually and intellectually.”

A bad marriage is a bad marriage is a bad marriage. It doesn’t matter how hot they are or how much money you have. You will be miserable.

Trust me, I am almost out of a 23 year marriage to the hottest girl I ever had. She is still hot but that does not mean anything right now.

The key to long term relationships is contentment. Does her presence put you at ease? Does she respect you? Does she satisfy your sexual needs? Does she build you up when you are down? Is she your best friend? Does she rejoice with you? Does she cry with you? Do you cherish her for who she is? Does she cherish you for who you are and not who she wants you to become?

You can tell I am slightly cynical. :cool:

I could go on and on. Unfortunately the world is filled with givers and takers. Takers are attracted to the givers and the relationship becomes one-sided.

I personally like #5. Not because of her youth, because that will eventually be a thing in the past. I know what it is like to live with a woman who is disrespectful and inconsiderate. It destroys intimacy.

Therein lies the key, regardless of what aspect a relationship needs to be reciprocal.

For some it takes more life lessons then others before or if ever finding real companionship.

Like I have said before, I would much rather have a 5 or a seven with brains over a 10 with nothing up there.

Now some could argue that there are 10’s who are smart and I don’t disagree, but I have never met one.

Here is a piece of advice my dad gave me:

Looks and money don’t make a person happy they only fill the void of security which most of us are lacking.

The main reason people are so unhappy is they get with someone based on looks, money.

People don’t understand real happiness is so much deeper, that is why you see guys who are 5’s with girls who are 10 and vice versa they stepped off there pedestals and realized that happiness and beauty is more than skin deep.

I’d go with the no brainer. I’d pick Tisha and then some more Tisha. Can’t go wrong with that one. :smiley: