Ah, to be young and restless again. You gotta focus on the big picture. I’m not saying you’re going to get laid that night. I’m saying you’re planting seeds to get laid in the future. If all you want is the quick fix, what I posted won’t work for you or almost anyone else, unless she’s REALLY into you. Personally, I’d rather play the field with women who don’t open their legs to just any smooth talker or party boy that crosses their path. I’d rather have the challenge. Easy girls are just that…easy. Yawn.
Movie theatre is a terrible location for a first date - Sitting around where you can’t talk with someone you barely know for a couple hours… bleh
Take a girl rollerblading - especially if she doesn’t already know how
(but not if she knows how and you don’t know how…)
It’s gold… if she doesn’t know how and you do she will inevitably end up requiring you to hold her up - I’ve spent almost entire dates holding a girl hand whom I’m meeting for the first times because she didn’t want to fall. That and it totally makes the right associations in her mind (you are the white knight keeping her from falling on her ass)… you can also be playful by pretending to let her go when you approach a hill, or chide her athletic ability a little.
It’s totally an all in one solution.
It even works if you both don’t know how to rollerblade - physical closeness will be huge because you will be hanging off each other to keep up.
Take a girl rollerblading for a first date… In most cities you can rent rollerblades, if not just go and buy some cheapo 20$ used blades before the date (you just happened to have an extra pair around)… resale of the blades if the date goes bust means the date only ends up costing you like 10-20$ at most (or if she is a common size, like 7, then hold on to them… you’ll likely meet another girl who could also wear them)
Almost all women arent into one night stands. Most of women who do one night stands are drunk. Women have sex for a lot of other reasons beside sex.
If all you want is sex just pay for a prostitute. They are cheaper and can satisfy you better with their skill. Not to mention she is probably hotter than any woman you can ever score with without directly paying her.
dude i had a whole thread devoted to prostitutes..but here’s the thing…the bottom line…it’s illegal in the states!!! if it was legal u really think we’d be spending money on pheromones?
Lol, you have a good point.
So when are we moving to Amsterdam? 
Seriously though I think legalization of prositution is a good thing because that way men can separate their sexual and emotional needs. If you feel sexual go to an escort and when you feel emotional go to your wife/girlfriend. This way everyone is happy.
ok, i’m gonna resurrect my thread and i would love to continue this discussion there.
Dudes… chicks may not be AS into ONS as men… but they do have ONS WITHOUT needing alchohol or because they are in a bad place.
Get this… it is a new concept to some of us… Chicks dig sex - really they do… the biggest fight myself and my LTR have is related to the quantity of sex being had (with her being on the side of not enough)
Chicks have ONS because they are horny and haven’t been laid in a long time (JUST LIKE GUYS)
and no… even if prostitution was legal I wouldn’t partake (although I would be happy because I would probably find much less competition pissing the ladies off at the bar)
so i guess prostitution benefits everybody…then why is the us so idiotic about it?
Too many religious nutjobs in this country.
If Abraham Lincoln let the South secede instead of keeping it prostitution would probably already be legal by now in USA if you know what I mean .
If you are getting drunk to the point of sleeping with a man you would not normally sleep with, you are not that deeply committed to respecting your own wishes. Same thing with drugs. It is not healthy to use so much substance that you can no longer protect yourself. People who engae in such self defeating behaviours are psychologically unhealthy.
Sex, with a partner, is always about the emotional aswell as the physical. If it was all about physical sensations, masturbation could meet it perfectly. People may be expressing ambiguous feelings during sex or getting inappropriate emotional needs met. That is what people use prostitutes for.
I live in Holland and legalisation just makes things worse. There are more sex slaves than ever. More women work under force of pimps than voluntarily. Prostitution is not a normal profession. A person who is fully embodied and it not seeing her body as a dead item is not going to sell it if there are other ways to survive. Almost all prostitutes have been abused and are suffering from mental issues. Almost all prostitutes drink to excess or use drugs. A good deal of them are under 18 and there are more illegal prostitutes than legal ones.
i would have to disagree with both of you. women really aren’t that different from men..the only thing is that women have to cater to society where as men don’t. as a man, i can do what i want, when i want and tell you to go fuck yourself if you don’t like it. as a women, you are a slave to social bullshit. alcohol is just another excuse to momentarily relieve yourself of social expectations nothing else. there was an experiment don’t here in Austin last year and it was all over the radio…basically this girl got taken out to the bars by her friends for her 21st bday. instead of booze, they served her mixed drinks with water in it and told her it was booze. guess what? she still jumped on top of the bar and danced like a total drunk dumbass. then they told her she was stone cold sober all nite. lol
see what i mean? women want one night stands for the same reason why men do…here’s the surprise..its got nothing to do with getting your junk off…it has everything to do with feeling good. fucking makes you feel attractive and wanted.
You say its looks that matter because you THINK that you look ugly.
I am sure you will find someone who looks like a greek god and is still a virgin because he THINKS that having money gets all the girls.
At the end of the day, this is all in your head and is what is stopping you from asking someone out. If you need an excuse for not getting a girl, you have got a very good one.
I am not saying that looks don’t matter, they do to a certain degree but if you think that being ugly hurts your chances, then you will just have to try harder. Perseverance can take you anywhere you want to go.
They probably gave her O’douls.
Anyway being drunk is the number one abused excuse used by women to justify their ‘irresponsible’ actions. The wife of a friend of mine invited a male friend over while he was out of town and had sex with him and then told him she didnt mean to have sex with him. She just needed some company, but then she drank too much and got too drunk and maybe her friend drugged her or something … YEAH RIGHT! Ha ha ha!
They probably dont control the business well enough. And there should be a union for the prostitutes too.
Or to Patrick Stewart, or Steve Austin, both of which chicks swoon over, for different reasons.
Hey I missed this Mr Harris !!!
For some women yes, my Mustang is beautiful. All of them are and yes I want them all. LOL It has little to do with the driver. 
Since this thread is still surfacing…
Never replied to this thread because I felt bad for advanced. I have never visually seen him but he proved a point. Ugly is as ugly does.
Doesn’t matter what he looks like. The attitude is ugly therefore I dont find him attractive.
See what “looks good” to one girl may not to another. My friends and I will be out and one of us will point out a guy that they perceive to be good looking and he may be bald and have a big nose. The rest of us wont find him good looking so he didnt grab out attention Happens all the time.
There are men I have met that are not visually good looking at first sight to me but once I get to know them suddenly that perception changes and I find them incredibly attractive. If I wasn’t married and was a slut I would do them LOL.
Looks may matter for getting attention but not in attraction. However there is a lot of ways to gain someones attention so that perception can change into attraction and thats what pheromones and PUA tactics do. They help you influence that perception change.
Tisha
Looks do count for a lot. And women while not as visually oriented as men, are more visually oriented than most would admit or have us believe…Chippendales isn’t the most successful stripper review in the world because the ladies respect the dancers intelligence or personality. However a lot of the visual cues women respond to are not simply symmetry and signs if genetic fitness, but cues of social status, accomplishment, lifestyle and state of mind. Smiling, posture, grooming and fashion/style communicate confidence and self esteem, while watching how you interact with others displays your social status within the group and your personality.
You can place a guy with the looks of a model for a men’s fitness magazine in a club and yes he will get some initial glances. However if he’s painfully shy, or angry and anti social it will come across and he will spend his evening alone. Conversely a man of average looks will be noticed if holding court/loading the club, and smiling, laughing and having a fun time with a few men and attractive women…other women will see this and accept the frame.
So in a way, yes appearances matter but no, you are not condemned by your genes.
No, tough love would be offering a workable alternative. You’re criticising and dismissing pua theory (I don’t agree but fine) however you fail to do anything save saying that if you’re born physically less than attractive…well there’s no hope. Which is bull. You want numbers? Try 6 BILLION people. I’m sure the number of model quality ones are a small minority.
Tisha, Hi-Five as usual
My first mones hit was related to my Mustang, rofl.
It’s a 2002 Electric Green Convertible (one of 636 made woohoo!) with a black top.
I had sprayed on Ammo+IO+TUTH and went into Subway, the Arab Chick behind the counter (who had never said anything to me before after like 3 other times of eating there) leaned towards me with a DIHL look, big pupils, kept smiling like in a trance and said like 3 times all slow - in an almost seduced voice: “I love your car” within 1 minute - and then it was something about loving my jacket that I was wearing (which was congruent with my car since it was the same color, lulz)
Looking back, to recognize that it was my car, I’m guessing that she had to be checking me out when I got out of it, and the mones just threw her into overdrive once she got caught in my pherocloud and she probably got the ‘butterflies in the stomach’ thing xD
Hey use whatever is in your arsenal. I have had women and even gay guys come up to me as I’m getting off my bike and be like… “wow that’s just hot.”
I posted in my journal about one day going to Tropical Smoothie, getting off my bike, carrying the helmet in etc and the young girls in there just couldn’t act right at all. At one point even the old man manager there was looking at one of them like…“really? WTF?” I was also wearing mones that day, and got some great reactions.
But the most interesting thing I Noticed. Years ago i was working in Hollywood for some producers. In one day I had to drive all of their cars. An Isuzu Trooper, Jag XJ6 if I recall correctly, Mercedes and either 87 or 88 Mustang 5.0 convertible. It was the year before the dashboard etc went plastic. The reason I know this is cuz the car got stolen and my boss was so disappointed that they couldn’t replace it with a similar car. He hated that plastic so much, he just gave the stang to his wife and started riding a Harley.
Anyway the looks I got were.. why you driving that XJ6 you little prick? That’s a nice Mercedes, must be dads. Mom let you drive the trooper?
But when I took that Mustang out things change LOL. I mean to the point when I was at lights my thoughts were…“Jesus woman, its only a car!”
Every single woman I drove up beside just went ape shit. It was one big ol’ panty dropper. Man, I don’t know why I didn’t save up and get my own…wouldn’t have needed the mones back then with that. LOL
LOL! The Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers, Chevelles, etc have always seemed to be those type of cars that were apparently painted with androstenone based paint