Which One is the "Dream" Pheromone

[Romey]

Hi and thanks for all the advice (Tisha, Kitten and Paganfire), I took it in stock, did some more forum surfing & got some (much needed) resolve.

I havent had any hits as such but have noticed some effects to my dreams so this is not a report as such but I did want to share my initial impressions.

Background:

1. Never used phero’s B4
2. I bought IS/b; Shine; Honesty; Openness; MX135; TAH; TAF (2.5mcg) and TAL (7.5mcg) All unfrangranced (I’ve since read that I may have wasted my money - I used cover scents to aid diffusion )
3. Couldnt control myself and practically used my whole order at my next social event:o :o. I know . (Thanks for not laughing TOO loud ). Actually it was 3-4 sprays of each (except TAF & Honesty) staggered throughout a 6 hour night out in a club setting. Should have heeded Lor (more of a good thing can sometimes = zero)
4. Not suprisingly there were no effects
5. Took a step back and tempered my impetuousness
   Update:

So far I’ve experimented with TAF and Honesty both for at least a week.

TAF = I started with TAF since I was training to be assessed for a new role (2 weeks training with a personal coach in customer and procedures led environment; test was on friday). I applied 1 spray slit between wrists and dabbed to upper lip; repeated every other hour. I’m generally quite ordered but also very easily distracted. I tried not to willfully concentrate any extra to prevent myself creating any placebo effects. Nevertheless, I didnt feel any more focused or get any other effects.

I had very good rapport with my coach who I’d never met before but who I’m told I was lucky to get because he’s so personable and effective. We were able to get through the material and also enjoy our interaction - he said it was a pleasure coaching me and gave me his number at end of course.

There were no self effects either - no ,lightheadedness or anything. I did get some compliments for the cover scent but no more than usual (I wear Angel, GPG, Gloria Vandabilt or Vanilla oil - separately by the way unlike the phero’s:) )

Something that did happen is that I was able to recall that I actually dreamt (my normal dream recall is sporadic at best). Thats a bg plus for me 'cos I’d like to get lucid.

Honesty = Ended the last 3 days of my training with Honesty (again 1 spray split between wrsits; repeated every hour or so; none to upper lip)

I wanted to see if there would be any deepening of the rapport. This didnt happened that I noticed - but I did find one colleague who had recently passed the same assessment but doesnt engage with me being extra nice and extra helpful. Her behaviour ended up beng of great help.

However, the best effects came when I went to sleep and Honesty seemed to amplify the content and texture of the dream world . This time I noticed that If I had conversation with someone or had a dominant thought before going to sleep - all this information would be richly woven into a dream that I was not directing but enjoyed dreaming. My recall was consistent and reoocurred throughout the day.

I understand that these may be normal effects for some but its unusaul and very welcome for me.

I tried adding some TAF to increasing clarity and depth to the dreamscape but with no luck. I’ll also be hunting the forum for posts on Phero’s that induce dream effects but if anyone can point me in tyhe right direction…

anyway..thats all thats happened so far. My next order may be at higher strengths … but I’ll see how it go with the others first…I’ve mastered the art of pateince

[Kitten]

Fascinating. I don’t notice changes in my dreams when I wear different pheromones. But they do seem to be very entertaining lately. It is a pain to get up because I’d rather go back to bed and see how the dream ends!

You say that you didn’t see results, but then right after that, you talk about positive interactions that many of us would consider results. We are talking about very subtle positive nuances to social interactions. If someone compliments you while you are wearing pheromones, and you don’t usually get compliments from that person, consider that a result.

Sweet dreams! LOL
Kitten

[inkling]

Great question. I am recalling more dreams than normally also. For someone like me that doesn’t sleep well, I think I am having more normal sleep cycles. I’ve been using instant sexiness b, with changing mixes of instant openness or instant honesty, and occasionally a spritz of taf or beta androstenol.

Compiling other dream posts here for those interested.

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[Romey]

Yes Kitten, “entertaining” is a good word (I looked forward to going to sleep)

You say that you didn’t see results, but then right after that, you talk about positive interactions that many of us would consider results. We are talking about very subtle positive nuances to social interactions.

This is helpful…dont want to miss those subtle effects. I suppose maybe I’m still expecting dramatically wild results to count as hits. That being said, I’m around alot of positive people and have more or less positive encounters and often get reations to the perfumes I mentioned so it may be more scientific to wear a scented Phero on its own. But I do think the work colleague who helped me out was being nicer than usual (to me at least).

All the links are so appreciated Inkling . Working shifts can make it hard to fall asleep and I’ve noticed this is easier too. I’m about to check the posts I havent so far read

[tisha23]

Its Instant Openness that effects my dreams. I dont wear it after 5PM because if I do I have some really weird dreams that keep waking me up. If its the day before my day off I dont mind but when I have to go to work the next day I will be to tired. I dont have trouble falling asleep but its almost like my mind is to busy and it effects what I am dreaming.

Hang in there Romey. When I first started out I didnt see results right away. I am not sure why and have some therories but thats all they are. For me it happened suddenly and with the same mix I had been using with no results and after that it just got stronger the more days I wore it. It was sort of like it had to mesh with my own sig or my body had to adjust to it.

The mention of it effecting your dreams means it works you just need to get it to effect others. Are your wearing your own cologne or scent with it. Try covering with somthing highly diffusive. Something that you were that people have noticed in the past.

Tisha

[inkling]

Instant honesty is subtle. It didn’t truly reveal its full affect until weeks after I had purchased it and then I finally got it and had ‘oh so thats what it does’ thought.

With my sisters I hear crazy secrets. But that is usually combined with instant openness which is always good for a fun gab session. When the 4 of us are together it is usually pretty crazy anyway.

But, what I noticed that was very subtle is a deeper connection in normal conversation with my husband. He initiated a talk about my hobby, which is pretty boring for anyone but me. He was in the convo, participating and asking questions. Reads like nothing I’m sure but thats what I meant by subtle and it took weeks for me to even see it. He normally could care less about my hobby and I generally could care less about some of the things that he talks about. Being together for years already, we smile, nod and pretend we get it. I think in an established relationship it clears the crap that blocks an open connection.

I do agree with Kitten, you’re already seeing instant honesty effects but perhaps you’re expecting too much. If you have instant openness too, it is more obvious.

With taf it does seem to give a little oomph to mixes or products I’m wearing too. But it takes a large dose to see what it is actually all about and I’m not too sure that it is a good focus pheromone. It seems to be an eye opener, increases sensory perception, and what you notice but for me isn’t really a focus. I’m guessing anywhere between 30 and 60 mcg will have you understanding the affect, 60 is what I tested it at and that was too much. For just adding bam to a mix I only use about 5 or 10 mcg.

Taf on the other hand does make it easy for me to breeze through tedious labor intensive work that gets neglected or put off. Taf and boredom combined equals a clean house with out minding you put that amount of effort in to it. The focus isn’t pin pointed but split 5 ways and almost too distracting to handle. While you vacuum you’ll also start fluffing cushions, then noticing walls that need washing but only after you reorganize the bookshelf.

[tisha23]

Instant honesty is subtle. It didn’t truly reveal its full affect until weeks after I had purchased it and then I finally got it and had ‘oh so thats what it does’ thought.

Dont you love that moment when the product finally kicks in and you say OHHH now I see it LOL.

Tisha

[nosemolester]

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