I keep reading posts about, eye contact, subtle looks, pleasant conversation etc.. What I want to know is: who is getting hit on by strangers and what you are doing about it…Are you consumating? Or just making entries to a research log? What are you wearing when you get the stongest reactions? But more important what do you do about it? I don’t mean to be critical, but from some of the threads I have read, it seems like one big science experiment…not a social, sexual enhancer…Am I wrong?
Many of us are here to enhance others experiences. There are plenty out there who don’t post on the forums, and just use the Consumer line (IO, IO, AMMO, ect) and I wouldn’t doubt they get plenty of sex because of it. You don’t hear about it though, because they have everything they want, no reason to come on here and post their personal lives. You say its just one big science experiment, and that has a lot to do with it. Consider us pioneers, paving the way so that people don’t have to post on forums to show that the products work, because we will have done all the work already. No good thing comes without trial and error. AD wants to give its customers a great product, and without the help of this forum, the quality of the pheromone formulas would be sub-par to what they are now and/or not even exist.
Again, it seems to beg the question. Isn’t life about living and not just observering? Personally, I am interested in actual comsumated results. So maybe I can lure some of those of whom you speak out long enough to tell us about their sucesses.
You’ll missed the main point about mones. It’s not about sex, although that’s certainly one component. Mones enhance human relationships, and relationships are mostly about work, friends, family and, yes, lovers too. If all you want is honey on your friggen stinger there are faster and more direct ways to get your wick wet. Most of us only have time to fuck for a few minutes daily. However we are relating to our coworkers, friends and family 16 hours daily. If enhanced sex with strangers was the only benefit, I wouldn’t bother with mones.
For me the more significant improvement has been in my professional life. And, yes, enhancing communication, respectful attitudes and a clear chain of command are the main benefits.
Incidentally, outside of a few younger guys looking to sow their wild oats, not too many here are looking to consummate with strangers. Been there and it gets empty and boring fast.
Obviously you haven’t read very far. There are tens of thousands of posts on this site and LS concerning professional, social and sexual success.
They have tons of benefits outside of sexual relationships. I notice that androsterone products like A314 and IG make little kids enjoy you much more which comes in handy when I am seeing my nieces.
IH is good to get deep conversations with people.
Something like A314 is supposedly good for job interviews. I haven’t used it for that yet, but ther eyou go.
Anyway, trying to pick up women is part of what pheromones can be used for, but they can be used to enhance pretty much any interpersonal (and intrapersonal for that matter) relationship.
dave, i follow you on this…but i think you’re jumping ahead here a lil bit…there is nothing that you can put on that will make a woman sleep with you..clothes, colgne, jewelry…it just enhances you.
and the thing is…it’s such a loooooong process to bed a woman that it really doesn’t make sense to attribute the whole thing to one element you know?
I’ve gotten “consummated” type results with MX252 and MX292 most recently, but there have been all kinds of great results from many different mixes over the years.
If you’re looking for a long term girlfriend, for instance, something like A314 is certainly rewarding. I wouldn’t frivolously, er, “consummate” with anyone you attract with it, though, unless you’re serious about them. MX252 runs that risk, too. Something more sexual, and less romantic, is much better for flings without emotional strings.
Some of the new Raw Power experiments are based on things I’ve learned from MX292, so I’m sure others are achieving a good degree of “consummation” out of there with the more modern mixes.
Our initial breakthroughs, though, were in molecules that affected the largest portions of life – the social, home and work aspects. The 15 to 16 hours a day, everyone but the Tantrics have to live in waking life.
It is only recently that we’re started be able to quickly fulfill some of the fantasy uses of pheromones as seen on TV, in movies, and the bulk of the (inaccurate/shady) pheromone seller sites out there.
I almost didn’t think we’d ever come so far in this area, but we certainly have broken down some of the key technical barriers to success when it comes to delivering strong sexual results across a wide population of women, with minimal negatives. (and with these core barriers down, there’s nowhere but up from here as we continue to split-test & tweak)
Try one of the modern Raw Power mixes or MX292 and you’ll see what I mean. We’re literally closer than ever to actually delivering on (in reality, not in fantasy or overly optimistic words) many of the fluffy lies and fabrications you see on the most on the con web sites out there today. I’m probably as amazed as anyone is, since I once thought that some of the results we’re seeing today might not be possible (given behavior based evidence about mating styles from areas such as David Buss’ field, evolutionary psychology), or at least would’ve taken much longer than it has. Then again, we have been at this for awhile. I guess time flies when you’re actively working on something.
Honestly, most people who’ve been here the past few years (or since the beginning) probably think of me as sexually stoic, since most of my products and mixes have been so “conservative”. So “practical” in an almost anything but sexual way.
However, what I really am is a quality fanatic. I haven’t focused on sexual product to much, since I haven’t felt that we could deliver significant results in that area (until recently, that is).
Let’s put it this way… If Apple made a sex product, it’d have a level of refinement previously unseen. They wait for various pieces to come together, for natural synergies to form, to do things right. To seemingly outexcel anything else out in the market.
Steve Jobs says the real key to having similar success to what Apple has experienced recently is simply to “care”. I agree. My preferences are very similar. I like doing things as right as I can. My v1.0 has to be better than other companies v2.0, and when I truly have my way, even their v7.0. There’re actually a second hand market out there for some of the original versions of some of my products, even “beta” products, such as the first bottles of A314. I think that speaks well to giving a damn about product, and the people who use them.
When you give a damn, you put your effort into developing a positive reality to share with others, and then use words to describe that reality. This is the opposite of many marketing efforts these days, save for portions of the technology field. It’s an old fashioned approach, not much different than what you’d find at the old Bell Labs or Edison’s old Menlo Park. They developed the light bulb before they sold it. Simple, honest stuff, but this is not what most companies in the pheromone arena have done and continue to do. (in fact, rather than doing real work, many would rather lurk here in the shadows, figuring out ways to attack communities & research efforts like this – but that’s a topic for a different post)
Michael, I appreciate your thorough reply. However, I must note, that I am 57 and it seems most on the forum are much younger. My point here is that my needs are significantly different than those in their twenties. Many of the things they are seeking are old hat to me; I have BTDT. Now as I age, andropause has set in and I am seeking the edge I had when I was a younger man. I have engaged in a diet and exercise regimen, and will be getting HRT starting in August. Because of these things, I want to try the pheremones in a sexual way. So, I hope you understand my impatience with those with different goals. I simply do not have the time to squander on evolving a “perfect” mix and was really hoping to short cut the endeavor through this forum. Hence my frustration with the coyness.
The “perfect mix” and Time are synonymous, whatever you’re goals are. The forum can assist you getting what you want from Pheromones (as long as what you want is realistic), but only through trial and error will you be able to find what truly works for you. The reason why the forum may appear to be full of reports you consider coy is because most people in their reporting get straight to the nitty-gritty of a product/molecule rather than report explicitly each and every hit. Scientifically, I think it’s more important – and far less time consuming – to discuss the overall, general, reoccurring reactions you get from a molecule rather than describe in detail each individual hit – Although that is helpful also. Having said that, many people do report in detail sexual hits, so I’m a little confused with what you have a problem with.
HI Dave, I went back and read your intro thread, great stuff. I can understand your frustration with the ‘coyness’. LOL. Understand that many regular posters get so used to reading posts from shyer young men looking for magic shortcuts that when somebody like yourself comes along our replies fail to shift away from that mindset.
You seem to understand that there is nothing magical about pheromones. The fact that they are not magic is part of the reason that you don’t see as many “lay reports” as you’ll commonly see on so called pick up artist forums. As others have noted, by the time you get to the bedroom there are a lot of factors involved and pheromones are just a small part. Another reason is that some guys have had bad experiences in the past from posting kiss n tell threads. Think of the confusion and hurt felt by a woman who finds that the new man who seems incredibly special is posting about her, however discreetly, in a pheromone forum.
I see you’ve already placed an order. With your stated goal of meeting and mating women somewhat younger than you I hope you’ve included IG. I’ve found it to be golden for blurring age differences. TUTH, Heavy AMMO, and even IJ are all great for replacing that lost -none signature. Have a blast!!!
PS, don’t think of the time you spend finding your sweet spots dosage wise as being squandered, think of it as time spent playing a new fun game. After all, time spent interacting with enchanting women could never be considered squandered, never mind the ulterior motive of testing pheromones.
Actually there are quite a few men here in the forum in the sexy over 40 group.
I suggest searching out posts by …
Steve
(there are more but these guys just come to mind first LOL)
These guys should be able to help you alot and have posted a lot of info on the forum. They all have great success with mones and a lot of experience so they know what works in your age range.
Hope this helps a little I know it can be a overwhelming place.
Oh one more forum tip. If you click on there names above I provided then on there Statistics page you can find all there posts in one spot instead of searching all over the place.
Tisha
Great post!
Tisha, Thanks for the suggested reading. I get the impression that I have violated some unwritted rule by being so direct. I am a direct and to the point individual by nature, no offense is intended. I do however, get frustrated when my directness is met with answers that do not address the question.
So, let me ask again, what are any of you DOING when you get these strong hits? Are you acting on them? Or are you just logging them for the sake of research?
Most of the time, Dave, I personally cannot act on them. Due to personal circumstances, I find myself in situations where it would be inappropriate to take it beyond heavy flirting a lot of the time.
In a shopping mall, I get hit on in an obviously sexual manner by a married woman showing what she has in a blouse that is very open and she’s bending over horizontal with the floor. I’m crouched down looking at a pair of boots. Her breasts are at eye level.
She then goes and looks at a pair for hubby, bending over again to display a shapely ass inches from my face. She could crouch like everyone else, but no, she doesn’t.
She’s married, we’re in a public place and my moral code is not that loose. Nothing happens besides making a note of the hit.
Or I’m flirting in an enclosed space with a woman I’ve only seen once for a minute or two, tops. She works in a company I interviewed for and lives too far away to make a relationship realistically possible. Again, all I can do is log the hit.
That one was a strong one though and is my first successful “number close” without anything actually being said in our first encounter.
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YW You didn’t violate anything I think we are just missing your question. I am very direct in nature as well so they are used to it here. I did list those members because you can see by there posts what they are using to get the sexual response your looking for.
I am sure you want a response from the guys from this LOL 
I can tell you from reading just about every post in here the men are" getting some" and many do follow through with the hits they get. It does depend on the situation though. Some guys are married and get hits but are not interested on cheating. Some get hits from people they just are not into or attracted to. Most men wont screw for the sake of screwing and are choosy in there sexual partners or the situation just is not appropriate.
I know your probably thinking well if they are not following through with the hit then what good is getting hits.
Well there are a few benefits to getting hits just for the sake of getting them. Other women you may be interested in will notice and this makes you in demand. Once that vibe gets out there you will have your choice of sexual partners.
It can also boost confidence levels and stroke the ego a bit. You don’t seem to have those issues but some do and getting hits even when they have no intention of follow through can boost that.
As for me, I am married so when I get hits I flirt but thats about it. When I wear certain sexual mixes around the hubby its because I want to have or enhance the sexual encounter. What mones I use wont apply to you so I wont mention them
Keep in mind though you will see alot of reporting here because this is a research and development site and we test and report on the products for Androtics.
I am sure more men will be by to answer your questions 
Tisha
Well, after thinking for a moment, perhaps I should have addressed the question to the ladies. Which mixes or stand alone products get them hot and bothered when they detect them on an attractive man. Are there any that give the same response when the man isn’t so attractive? What do THEY do about it?
Apparently I missed the point of your post the first time through, thank you for patiently restating it.
Yes, I have acted on strong hits. In doing so I have gotten both shot down and laid and responses in between. As the old saying goes ‘there is many a slip twixt cup and lip.’
No, no unwritten rules here. Just the usual opportunities for miscommunication. 
Actually, many of regular posters here remember the “Summer of Love,” so this forum isn’t as youthful as you think. As we, ah, mature, mone replacement therapy is necessary to help maintain your edge. I think AD products are actually far more useful for older folk than for the youthful. The kids are naturally full of mones and at their physical peak. You may have noticed many young men complain of OD problems when they use androstenone. I can nearly bathe in it, and to good effect.
Depends on the type of hit and if I like the person or not. If I don’t like them, I politely shut them down or ignore them. You really don’t wanna engage every person you see even if you know they’re willing. It’s basically just like real life except you have an edge and can get away with more.
But here’s a few typical examples of what I might do. When I get a “respect & obey” hit at work I have them fetch my coffee and tidy up my office, or maybe call in a favor if they’re a superior. When it happens in a retail business, I go for the extra mile in service. Same thing in a restaurant or hotel. This is typical with A314. If I’m loaded up with socials, e.g., alpha androstenol and TAA, the hit is usually lots of talking and friendly overtures. If they’re interesting, I engage in conversation and things can unfold from there to business, friendship or pleasure. I don’t wear heavy sexual mixes much anymore, save for special dates, as suffering through endless sexual innuendoes is distracting at work and got me into lots of trouble a few years back.
What does OD mean? Overdose?
That’s right. The forum will automatically give an explanation of the most frequently used terms on this site. Just run your mouse over ‘OD’.
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