WildFlower's Pheromone Experiences.

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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I’ve vowed to myself to write any experiences (even the mundane) I have with Pheromones in this journal thing so I can hopefully keep progressing. It feels weird writing specific things incase someone I know ends up finding this site.

Last night was a girl’s birthday gathering thing. We went to the pub as usual and then onto a few clubs.

I had put on:

4 sprays of Instant Openness (on my forearms, I got a miss shot so It ended up as 4 and a half or something)
5 sprays of Instant Shine (throat and centre of neck, one spray on hair)
2 Instant female Magic (one on each side of neck)
2 shots of AMMO (In the little hollow bit at the bottom of your neck top of chest.).

I was first to get to the pub and I went to the bar to get a drink. Ordered a Guinness and the guy serving me was busy rushing around trying to serve everyone. Once he’d poured my Guinness it was strange he kind of stopped rushing and started a conversation with me lol. He said “I tried to make a shamrock on the top for you but it ended up looking like a penis.” haha, I talked to him for a bit then went to get a seat. I noted this as a pheromone reaction because of how he was more friendly and politer than I’d expect from someone I’ve never met. I was thinking “do I know him from somewhere” because of how he was openly talking to me as if he knew me. It was more apprant to me later when I went with my friend to the bar whilst he got a drink and the same guy served him in a normal manner but then turned to me whilst pulling a pint and started chatting about something, I couldn’t hear very well so I just laughed politley at what he was saying, he just kept on rabbiting on though lol.

We all get the bus into town because we all drink. We come from different areas and the bus times mean I always end up getting to town 10-15 minutes before the rest. So the others hadn’t arrived yet but I noticed an old friend from school with two of his friends. I went over and sat down with them. This group of his do very little interacting with each other, they just sort of enjoy each others company in silence. They talk but not a lot, hard to explain. I saw him the week before and compared to then he was much more upbeat and chatty with me so I considered it a subtle pheromone reaction.

My friends got in to town (my best friend, his girlfriend, a girl that fancies me and a girl I fancy lol) I don’t want to write too much but I noticed my best friend and his girlfriend where chatty to me, even though they mentioned they where tired. It was a good atmosphere chilled out on some couches in the pub. The girl that fancies me was all over me all night (I don’t fancy her at all. How do you deal with a girl like this? Especially when she has attractive friends.) The girl I fancy-ish was nice and friendly with me, touched me a lot (passing drinks, putting confetti jewellery on me) no clear signals she’s attracted just nice and friendly.

In the club I was on the dance floor dancing TERRIBLY as always lol but I noticed several attractive girls (not a group, none of them knew each other) where hovering round me. I tested this by moving about a lot and I noticed that some of the girls would gravitate over towards the part of the dance floor near me within a minute or two. I wasn’t feeling like “the man” so I didn’t act on any of these reactions, I was happy to be there just looking for reactions. That is a something I need to improve on, becoming more proactive making moves etc but these reactions are slowly giving me the confidence to want to do so.

All night people where complementing my shirt. Male, female, people I know people I don’t know. I don’t know If it was the openness that made me approachable are whether they liked my shirt. I guess it was kind of peacocking.

What I considered the biggest hit of the night was when the night was drawing to an end, I was sat with my best friend on a table and a girl approached me and said “I like your shirt” I smiled and said thank you, her friend then said the same thing to me. They headed of to a different part of the club. 5 minutes later I think they where going home, she turned up again out of nowhere handed me a half bottle of her Alco pop walked of towards the exit, turned round and smiled at me, I smiled back, then she was gone.

So from my first journal post I think I can say I’m beginning to notice pheromone reactions. However Earlier that day I was in a queue at college reception (without any pheromones) the girl in front of me turned to face me, lifted her top up a few inches to reveal her stomach and started stroking her tattoo unconsciously. She did all this whilst gazing at me for about 20 seconds trying to get my attention. I could be wrong but I considered it a IOI now if I had pheromones on I would defiantly consider it a hit but I didn’t so it leaves me in a position where I can’t yet distinguish the difference between pheromone reactions and the reactions I normally have.

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Hey Wildflower!

A journal does really help sometimes. I’ve found that keeping a journal has been very helpful for me as well.

As for the question, how do we distinguish between a pheromone IOI and regular IOI? Well, that’s just experience I guess, also if the hit is inline with the pheromones you are wearing. In anycase, I’d say the important part isn’t distinguishing between pheromonal and regular hits, the important part is realizing what is an IOI and what isn’t. Usually the it can be summed up as, did she have any practical reason to do what she just did. Could be be excused as a personality quirk? Two 'no’s? That’s a start. :smiley:

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I’ve looked around on the internet for a good list of body language IOIs but can’t find one, you know where the is one? When I get a hit theres always an element of self doubt in my mind that I really need to destroy as it prevents me acting on them.

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Here are a couple of threads that might interest you

There are more threads here try searching IOI, also “interested” and maybe just “list”. Also look for all threads started by PheroQuirk in the lounge loads of stuff there.

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I don’t have any particular links or sources online. I’ve just read a book and posts here and there and kinda just put it together. Mainly, I was a quiet a kid, so I people watched a lot, my parents would take me to art shows often and I’d just sit there for 3-4 hours watching people, hell, even my 2 hour commute to and from school was a lot of time to watch people. In any case, reading the posts and books (really, it’s the same stuff or slightly modified) just gave me the proper concepts to articulate what I had been observing for a while now. After reading my first book on body language, I was more greatly aware of group language and how positioning within a group is sometimes provides more information than simply observing a single person. It’s also much more dynamic and subtle.

In any case, reading all the posts on body language won’t do it all. What would help would be to watch interactions of other people. Don’t just watch players and gamers, watch the regulars, watch the complete shoot downs. Watch everything, the way a mother interacts with their son, how they interact with their daughter. How the way their father would interact differently with the son and daughter respectively. How does that translate to the relationship between the two siblings?

Watch teenagers and observe how their social behavior is different that pre-adolescents and adults. It’s a great place to see body language miscommunication. Watch college kids, watch older couples. The reason why you watch everyone and every relationship is because you aren’t aiming to just understand IOIs, but you’re aiming to also understand the underlying emotions behind the body language. In order to really understand the underlying emotions, context is vital. So you need to see the same or similar behaviors in different contexts to not mix them up and understand a set of behavior in the wrong context. Hair flipping in a meeting is mostly likely not flirting. But, as always, context is important. Perhaps that meeting was..more casual.

Well, I guess that’s my link to a body language post. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Thanks for the input.

Today I put 4 sprays of instant Gentleman on my neck. I love everything about it, it makes me feel confident, it smells amazing. I just popped into college to hand my final assignment in then went for a walk round someshops, didn’t get any hits but I wasn’t in the vicinity of anyone for more than a couple of seconds.

Now I’ve finished college for the summer I have a few free days that I want to spend going out and getting out of my comfort zone, any ideas what to do?

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Where are you? And what kinds of activities do you consider ‘extreme’ or ‘out of your nature’?

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I’m in the UK. I live in a town about half an hour away from a big city. I want to leave my comfort zone so I can build confidence. Public speaking or approaching someone I don’t know (especially attractive) is of putting for me. Anything that makes me the centre of attention basically, the feeling of being judged.

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Okay, good. That’s a very common one, but more importantly it’s good that you’re aware of exactly where you are uncomfortable. There are a lot of easy ways to get out of that comfort zone. Essentially slowly start doings things that force you to become the center of attention. At first, just learn to be comfortable receiving the full attention of a crowd, then learn to draw the attention of a crowd. A logical place to start would be theatre, or any performing art, really. That definitely puts you on the spot, as well as being judged. But I suppose it depends what kind of judgment you fear.

Me personally, I don’t mind being judged by strangers all too much. I don’t do crazy stuff often, but I have no problem getting weird piercings, tattoos, basically being a social deviant. However, I do fear being judged by my family as far as my duties as a family member go. I don’t really care if they say I look unacceptable for society, but if they say I failed the family, it would matter. Granted, there might be an overlap, but there is an acceptable balance for both parties involved.

Anyways, the point is, you can go to the army and get judged all you want. They’ll judge you on discipline, fitness, skill, etc.. You could take up car shows, your car (and by association, you) will be judged depending on whatever competition you enter (sound, looks, performance, your own skill).

The fact that you mention public speaking and approaching strangers probably means that I’m just throwing out weird examples and that you’re like most guys and just want to feel more comfortable with random public interactions in general.

If that is indeed the case, you already know how to get yourself out of your comfort zone. Go join a toastmasters club or equivalent. Go talk to random strangers in line or just while waiting around together, etc.. I don’t know what your day to day life is like. Drive? Bus? Busy workplace? Isolated workplace? Downtown? Homelife? Home location? Etc..

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This journal didn’t really happen fo me but I wish it did :frowning: I’m gonna start again. It’s one of my new years resolution.

I got a free sample of p107 which I’m going to be testing. It’ll be the first puative I’ve tested without reading anything about it. I tried it yesterday at 3 sprays. It’s unclear what it does yet but conversations where more prolonged. It doesn’t effect my mood in anyway but I feel more “now” in the moment sort of. It’s only very, very subtle and I’m unsure if it’s just because I’m focusing attention on myself to see if I notice any changes.

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I tried 2 sprays of p107 again this evening. I haven’t been anywhere just stayed in with the family. I’m feeling very tired after only getting to bed at 6 this morning so not really in the mood for talking. During and after dinner with the family I was much more inclined to carry on the conversation which considering my mood I would normally let the conversation die. I noticed no effects on others and the only effects on myself where the above mentioned. I’m unsure if it was the puative that made me increase the talking it could of been anything, I’ll have to keep on testing. If it was the puative it was subtle and nothing like the effects from the nol’s.

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Today I wasn’t doing anything but staying at home with the family so thought I’d try out p107 again. 4 sprays at 10mcg each. I was sat at the computer when I sprayed it and after 5 minutes later got a mild urge to get up and do something. I took the dog for a walk and after that spent the next few hours reading a lot more so than usual.

anol makes me happy, giddy and chatty and I don’t get that from this molecule. It’s different. I’m starting to notice a trend that I definitely prolong conversations with people in situations where I’d have little interest to do so without wearing p107. Instant Openness can be quite mood dependant in that if you’re not in the mood for talking then it won’t help a great deal but if you are and others around you also are then it is in your face obvious. p107 isn’t like that because it makes me continue talking regardless of my mood (I’ve been tired all the times I’ve tried it) It is much more subtle than Instant Openness and a little more serious. You tend to ‘feel’ the effect of Instant Openness where as you ‘notice’ the effect of p107 later on. I’m much less aware of the effect it has at the time but after a conversation is finished I look back and realise I would go to great lengths to continue it.

I have to confess that after a few days of testing the molecule I wanted to get a feel for other people’s responses to it and see if I was on the right wavelength with all this talking malarkey. I was planning on testing the whole bottle blind but I couldn’t resist searching and having a read. I’m not totally confident in my ability to see reactions caused by unknown molecules just yet but I’m more than happy to realise Steve got the exact same vibe from it as I do which makes me :slight_smile:

Oh and before I forget I haven’t noticed any increased talking from other people yet. Maybe because the effects are so subtle I’m not noticing or whether it only affects the wearer I can’t say. Although a subtle molecule I think it would be a great addition to Instant Openness, In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if p107 is the steering agent already in Instant Openness.

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Last night I tired out Steves ICM b mix, the one with 12.5mcg of p83 per spray. I put 3 sprays in total on around 9 o clock. I was going out to meet the girl I really like and I’m usually totally apprehensive about not having none as the base pheromone for a mix when I know I’m going to be around attractive girls. I’ve known this girl for 6 months and I think this is probably the second time she’s ever seen me without none on (when it isn’t none its p83.) This is a stupid belief of mine that says that none is the only pheromone that can increase attraction. All the other pheromones do different things or aren’t as effective. I feel a little naked without it on around attractive girls. I’ve had plenty of sexual hits from girls when wearing just socials - usually p74 and TAA so it’s stupid of me to put none on a pedestal. Just in case I ended up missing the none I threw a togo of ammo in my pocket.

It was a 20 minute walk to the pub from my house and it’s really chilly here in the uk. I rapped a scarf very loosely round my neck as I didn’t want it to ‘steal’ all the pheromones from my neck (I know probably another Ill-founded belief).

I was just going to be having a few drinks with about 3 of my male friends and 2 girls (They’re best friends. They both like me. I like one of them) no one fancied having a crazy night as NYE was only 2 days before, despite that we all ended up getting pretty drunk.

At the pub it took about half an hour for things to get going. At first it was just basic small talk but after a while everyone was in great report with each other. P74 does this but at only 15mcg I’m unsure if it was the molecule that caused it or whether the rapport was natural.

Bizarre that I got major respect from guys. All my friends individually complimented me on my jumper. The guys at the bar would apologise and move out the way to make it easier for me to get a drink. One guy randomly walked up to me and asked if I was interested in the football to which I said not really and he went on to tell me what the score was anyway. Life without none can be pretty sweet.

The mood between us lot was great. Lots of joking and goofing around. We ended up arm wrestling each other. I think it’s impossible for anyone to be in a bad mood around this mix. TAA and p74 even at low doses may be causing that effect.

One of my friends brought his long term girlfriend out with him who I’ve never met before. She didn’t really know anyone at the pub so spent the first few hours with my friend/her boyfriend. After a while though I noticed she turned up beside me and we instantly where in rapport with each other. We spent about half an hour making up exaggerated stories about group of girls sat on the other side of the pub that we pretended where plotting to kill me. I don’t know if she was attracted but she was kinoing me a whole lot. Obviously I’m not interested in my friend’s girlfriend I’m interested in getting a feel for how the mix works (and more importantly how p83 works as a substitute for none). Normally I would have said she was obviously attracted to me but from first impressions she seems really flirty with everyone and has a ‘one of the guys’ personality.

By now it was 1 o clock and 4 hours had passed since I put my ICM b mix on. I was aware at the time how well it had been working. Girls don’t seem flustered or hot and bothered by it. It seems to really create rapport and therefore attraction. Attraction with out arousal, something none isn’t capable of doing. It draws people is because of it’s charisma not because it makes girls pants wet like none does. For all I know p83 could make girls frisky but they definitely seem less intimidated by it than they are by none. I’m not yet socially aware enough to tell if a girl is aroused by p83 where as with none it is obvious they become a little frisky.

We where all about to leave so I went to the toilet and added 2 shots of my togo ammo. I came out the toilet and instantly got more respect from my male friends. I had just put my scarf on and it was like “nice jeans” or “nice scarf” every item of clothing I was wearing was complimented on. We headed across to the take away where we all ordered some food. Whilst minding my own business eating my cheesy chips all 3 of the girls started giggling about me. I was like “what so funny” to which I didn’t get an answer other than more giggling. Then they started saying “aww he’s adorable” or “cute” etc. Naturally some girls see me as more cute than anything. I think it must be my baby face and some mannerisms I have. It may of been my scarf, hat or the way I was eating my chips with an enthusiastic smile that caused them to giggle. But I noticed the ICM mix (with or without ammo) increases the cute factor BIG TIME.

We all went our separate ways from the take away. I started walking the girl I like back to her house as it’s kind of on the way. After a night of fun and ‘connectedness’ when we where on our own the conversation got deeper. She talked of some guy shes in a predicament with because she likes him as a friend but she gets creeped out when he touches her back or tries to hug her etc. This is when you realise how down to a T pick up artists like Mystery have female behaviour. I laughed inside when I heard the EXACT same words come out of her mouth that I’ve seen so many times come out the mouth of mystery, style or whoever. “He’s a nice guy and I want him as a friend but it’s creepy when he strokes my leg. It’s like my brother touching me.” She said “he’s in the friend bracket” to which I replied “I can relate to that, it happens to all us guys from time to time”. She then said “yeah, but your only in the friend bracket because of X where as I’m just not attracted to this guy.” X being her friend that fancies me. We then ended up having a 10 minute conversation which is the same as the one we’ve had time and time before. We both confess that we like each other but can’t do anything about it because of friend X. She said she had a conversation with X who revealed she had strong feelings for me which is why we ended what ever we where starting. We hugged and she went inside.

I get confused as to why she always brings up the topic to talk about, explains the situation but then doesn’t look for a solution. I don’t understand why she keeps talking about ‘us’ but once we’ve covered the problem we stop talking about it and don’t look for a solution to the problem. I feel powerless to do anything because ultimately its her choice (one I believe she shouldn’t have to make) does she expect me to do something or what? I’m in the friend zone but we’re mutually attracted and very invested in each other. It’s frustrating to never be able to get my words out when in the moment as well.

The ICM mix is great. I still miss my none but no where near as much as I thought I would. I’m going to try just 2.5mcg of none (1 spray of turn up the heat) with 2 ICM sprays next. My sweet spot of ammo is 2 sprays which equals 5mcg so do you think by halving the amount of none I’m wearing whilst also buffering it with a whole bunch of TAA, p74, bnol thats present in the ICM mix that the none will have an effect? I just want a little bit there to signal the attraction but does to little, well buffered none make itself redundant?

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Yesterday I tried out 50mcg of p107, that’s 5 sprays. I have nothing really new to report on the molecule other than I continue to notice the trend that it makes me want to continue talking once I’ve started.

It’s is very different to Instant Openness, I have still not noted any effects on anyone else yet. But as a comparison to Instant Openness at 50mcg I get the equivalent obviousness (for lack of a better word) that it’s working as 1 spray of Instant Openness (12.5mcg?) so I still think it is a subtle molecule.

I think it affects consciousness which is why it only seems to affect the wearer. I definitely feel more in the moment when I wear p107 so I think it alters my brain state which subsequently makes me prolong conversations. It’s not that I feel more talkative, I just continue conversations where I would usually find them boring and try to finish them as quickly as possible. I may be less bored because I’m more in the moment instead of being preoccupied with day dreams. I’d normally choose a decent day dream over a boring conversation but with p107 there is no mindless day dreaming. I just feel the need to engage more in whatever’s happening at the time.

Another nuance I’ve noticed that could be completely unrelated is I have vivid dreams. Each time I’ve worn p107 I’ve had it on in the afternoon and the effects seem to last about 5hours so by the time I go to bed the pheromones should be totally dispersed. Having said that I hardly ever dream and when I do I usually completely forget them. Every time I’ve worn p107 I’ve had very vivid, almost life like dreams that I end up remembering. Bizarre.

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Whilst starting my Journal again I noticed this was the first mix I posted on. It was back in my phero baptism days but I have worn similar mixes since with success so I thought I’d try it out again last night.

Review of the mix: The Instant Female magic didn’t seem to make too much of a difference to things. I think Instant Female magic to work its magic needs to be in a less busy mix. It works great with none but the Instant Shine and Instant Openness seem to overshadow it. 4 sprays of Instant Openness does not seem to take anything away from ammo. I’ve tried refining the amount of socials I wear under the illusion that I end up burying the none if I don’t, this is not the case. Attraction is still present from the ammo under the Instant Openness. I think I went with 1 too many sprays of Instant Openness and could reduce the amount to 3 sprays and get the same effect. If I was to tweak the mix to wear again (which I will for sure) I’d go with 2 ammo, 3 Instant Openness and bulk the Instant Shine up to maybe 8 sprays (why not?). Since I’ve tested each product separately I’m much more able to see what the exact same mix was doing this time instead of stabbing in the dark. Pherobaptisms don’t necessarily create bad mixes just the people wearing them are blind to the affects those mixes create.

Anyway, the mix was great and did its job but the night not so good. I headed to the pub to meet the girl I like, the girl who likes me and a few of there female friends. At first I could see the mix working great with all the girls. They where all touchy feely with me, the mix made them all really giggly. At one point the girl I like was displaying major interested body language by resting her head in her hands and gazing at me.

The girl I like saw an opportunity to sit next to me and she took it. She was doing the thing where the conversation would drop and we’d just share intense eye contact for a few extra seconds before she’d look away. She picked up this little plastic stick thing and playfully put it in my drink and responded by putting her hand over her own drink so I couldn’t put it in hers. We joked around for a few extra minutes then when she wasn’t looking I slipped it into hers. BANG!! After that the night just crashed.

For whatever reason she got really pissed of with the fact I’d put the plastic stick in her drink after she put it in mine. Now, I don’t know whether it was a major Shit test, whether she was just looking for a reason to be pissed of with me in general and was trying to bait me into doing something so she would have a reason to be pissed of with me or whether it’s because she’s on her period and PMSing (she is this time of the month).

She said something like “Why are all boys dicks” bla bla. I have no idea if she was testing me for a response but I didn’t give her one. I had obviously not done anything wrong so I didn’t apologise or react in any way other than ignore her. Is passive aggression the best response when a girl is being bitchy with you? I have no idea how to respond. Anyway for the rest of the night I ignored her, sat pretty quietly and talked to her friends. She would give her friend who likes me the evils when she tried to talk to me.

I may have come across as suddenly going quiet because they’re all close friends and I’m a bit of an outsider to there group so I couldn’t control the conversation. I may have come across a little upset because of my quietness but I tried not to be in any way reactive and give in to her bitchyness by apologising.
By the end of the night my mood had picked up because I got into rapport with 2 of her friends and we where laughing and joking (they all seemed on my side). The girl I like was trying to re engage me as she was leaving by saying bye but I was eating pizza so didn’t respond.

I don’t think I’m going to get with this girl. I’m a little disappointed but more so with my inexperience in these situations and not knowing how to deal with a girl who’s being a bitch with me. I find it hard to spot if it was a shit test or just a major DOI. Earlier on in the night she was saying stuff like “I don’t think I fancy anyone right now” to her friend when she knew I was listening. I just said nothing and was unreactive. I thought that was a shit test because she has done the exact same thing before in the past and later the same night told me she likes me after I act like it doesn’t concern me.

Also she has told me in the past how she wasn’t attracted to her past boyfriend because she could walk all over him, she said she would try and start arguments with him just to see if she could get him annoyed and she thought low of him because he was submissive and would not argue. I thought in the situation last night he would react by apologising so I decided not to and just not react at all. I’m unsure if I did the right thing.

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Wow, you’re really pumping out those reports now! :slight_smile:

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It’s awesome to read something so well written. to be honest, I’m more about dramatic effects, but yours describes the good subtle tones.

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Phya and Rovot, Thanks for the replies.

I tested p107 again yesterday. I used 4 sprays this time. Instead of applying all on my neck I applied 2 sprays on my hair and 2 on my neck. I hate how this stuff smells like vodka lol or what I mean to say is I hate how it doesn’t smell of Neroli. I really love the neroli scent. Perhaps the reason why this puative has been subtle for me is because it does not have the neroli to send all the molecules out there and up people’s noses. Is just an alcohol carrier enough for diffusion?

I think I may have seen my first reaction of someone else yesterday :slight_smile:. After being around my mum and dad (I was sat about 8-10 feet away) for about 15 minutes I noticed how they where doing the whole prolonging the conversation thing I’ve described before. It was mostly my dad but my mum also. They where talking about something trivial and I noticed my dad would not let the conversation drop; he’d sooner go over the same point and again rather than just stop talking. My mum was less enthusiastic but did play along also.

The reason I only saw p107 affecting others yesterday must be a diffusion thing surely. I have overlooked application spots in the past but hair does seem real good at getting the pheros out there. I never use my arms or wrists, generally just stick to the neck area to get the most of the self effects. It’s taken a subtle molecule like p107 to show the effectiveness of hair application and from now on the socials are going on my head lol.

I was watching the news on TV and they where covering the terrible story of what’s happening in Israel/Gaza. Normally news like this obviously upsets me but I generally feel helpless and as if it’s way out of my control to do anything so I can feel a little cut of from it, not being able to relate. Yesterday I was pretty much shouting at the tele, disagreeing with those who supported the conflict and feeling a real sadness for all the innocent people involved on both sides. I’m not sure how this relates to p107 but perhaps it causes one to engage with the current situation. I know that I can’t affect in any way the current situation in the Middle East but that doesn’t prevent me from engaging in it where as normally I probably wouldn’t. I’ve reported on feeling more in the now and not getting bored when talking about boring subjects. With p107 I’m more likely to engage even if the subject is boring or out of my control.

I don’t ‘feel’ anything from p107 but perhaps it is causing me to be less logical and react with more interest and emotion in anything, be it: trivial, boring, very serious and upsetting but out of my control so not usually as engaging etc.

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Today I just used 1 spray of p107 (that’s 10mcg). I put it on my throat as I was wearing a hat and couldn’t put it on my hair. At 10mcg I got no notable reactions at all, not even on myself. I think 10mcg of p107 is way too subtle to see any kind of affect from. I got subtle affects from 2 sprays but not 1.

I should note that after immediately applying it I got the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach that I normally get from p83. When I wear p83 I’d say about half the time I get this really warm sensation in my stomach. It’s kind of like butterflies but it isn’t. I don’t feel nervous I feel really great and happy. This feeling last about 3-4 hours and I feel so good that people start accusing me of being drunk etc because I behave so uncontrollably happy. Well I got the same feeling in my stomach from the p107 today but it only lasted 2 minutes then faded to nothing. This is probably because I breathed in an excessive amount of the stuff straight away. The same probably goes for why I get the feeling from p83, just breathing in too much. What can I say, I love neroli.

testing P107 today... initial thoughts
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Today I tested another freebie of April called mx136. After testing it I did a search on it and have since realised it was from a test pack called liquid sunshine. I put a spray on my neck and noticed it smelt like Instant Openness and Instant Shine. After realising it wasn’t none I put another 4 sprays all to my neck, throat area. 5 sprays in total.

My initial impression after one test is that THIS SHOULD BE A CONSUMER PRODUCT. If this mix was available in a 30ml bottle I’d of ordered one as soon as I got home. It is AMAZING. To describe it briefly would be like TAA and anol combined but on steroids. I don’t know if the mcg count per spray is really high in this test mix or if androtics have really tweaked a winning combination of TAA, anol and a whole bunch of other molecules. This for me is an all in one social product. Instead of combining Instant Shine and Instant openness you should spray some of this stuff on and of you go.

I’ll not describe my whole day and what I did because it would take to long and be kind of irrelevant but I’ll just describe the overall vibe of the product. the product creates a whole bunch of chatting, very happy chatting. Not aimless but very upbeat. As soon as someone says something even mildly funny a huge smile comes across my face. It’s a real mood and conversation booster. Not at all subtle. Works really well in groups, gets everyone in a good mood. AMAZING formula, I want a full bottle. :frowning:

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the effects lasted about 3-4 hours and then I had a major crash which I recovered from an hour later. The crash would not put me of wearing this stuff all the time. It is just SOO good.