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I spent this entire day with 21. Lets say I really, really tried to love the scent. The citrus note lasted for a bit over 2 hours, and then it turned into more of a flowery scent. I would say that its longevity was close to 5 hrs. I think I would like the scent more if it was a bit…sweeter. I think overall this scent will be more appealing to the masses then the other 2. It has a younger, fresher vibe.
I wont get into exact hits, thats a different report. I did have hits though. Most were within 4 ft. I did not see any past that distance. At lunch I not only had hits from my date, but the table to the side of us(about 3-4 ft away). My date did not give me any “sniff sniff” hit, even though she had the other 2 times we had got together. Now , I am not saying she did not like it, but she did not go out of her way to compliment it like she did the other scent I wore in the past.
Date #2 and I went to the comedy club. She unfortunately did not give me a “sniff sniff” compliment following a hug and VERY nice kiss. God, I love redheads man! Anyway, I had good hits there. Its always a trip to see woman start to look around when they start to get the effects of phero’s. They start turning around trying to figure out where the man is coming from. Again, all within about 4 ft.
Conclusions…it did seem to diffuse well, but I did not see hits past for 4 ft. However I was wearing a high -none mix at lunch and what I believe is an even higher -none mix that evening. These are the only 2 unscented mixes that I have, so they were all I could really use to test the the scent of FF21 with phero’s. I cant put alot on the 4ft thing because my mixes were pretty high in -none, and probably only appealed to a certain audience. Maybe with a lower -none, or social mix the results/range may have been different.
I am hoping I grow to like this scent. I took me awhile to get used the Akuto scent in A314, but I did grow to like it. I hope the same happens here. The testing will continue!!!
I just got mine today well yesterday but was out, anyway going to test today and will post my thoughts later. Have not read any posts.
ok right off the bat impressions:
FF20 - I like this one - it is not very heavy, This is probably the most interesting scent you have here out of the 3. It smells classy, for an older gentleman, I cannot see a younger person going out to clubs wearing this.
FF21 - smells and reminds me of cool water - but has a sour chemical note in it that I am not too fond of at the moment. It is better then Game and I can live with this, but not my favourite.
FF22 - Wow blew me away do you guys realize how close to this smells like Creed Silver Mountain Water? that is a good thing. It is one of my favourite creeds. It is also one of my most complimented colognes. The problem is I wear it mostly in the spring/summer and do not find it works great in the winter.
Right now I am torn between FF20/22
But I need to think about it and let these wear on my skin and i need to get back to work
ok another update:
I had to scrub FF21 - it was getting to me
I am still up in the air which one I like better FF20 or FF22. I will probably go with FF22 - because it reminds me so much of Creed SMW and will be so easy to cover, but I am on the fence.
Plus I think majority of guys especially younger guys will accept FF22 over FF20. I also find FF22 more unique then your typical average cologne, maybe because I am bias and just love SMW
Alright so for the past few days I have been wearing the new FF Scents I have finally gotten around to compiling my thoughts on them so here goes:
FF20
Very cologne-ie scent, with a mature complex floral top note to it, something about FF20 reminds me of certain old school French/European scents; this scent has a very retro vibe. FF20 dies down to a mellow clean middle note, which is reminiscent of hand soap or body wash. Unfortunately this scent does not strike me as a very young, hip or cool scent. When I wore it out I found the scent didn’t last all too long on my skin it seemed to die down after about 20 min or so. Unfortunately I cannot say that I like this scent all too much, it’s not particularly unique or young enough for my tastes.
FF21
Blah! My spray bottle for this one is broken so I had to pry open the top with a knife just to sample this scent, which was actually easier said than done.
Anyway this scent immediately strikes me as fresh, soapy, light and pleasant. There’s something very modern and hip about this scent, but at the same time not unique enough to truly stand out. If FF 21 this was the chosen scent I suppose I could grow to accept it especially as I can see that it would probably be easy enough to cover with another scent, but all in all this one is not exactly my cup of tea.
FF22
Very sweet and unique scent I detect a top note of roses. This scent does not strike me as complex as the other two scents; which is a good thing in my mind. When I wore this scent out I found its smell lasted for quite a while, at least 8 hours or so later I could detect FF22 on my skin. This is not exactly the sort of scent I would naturally gravitate towards but it’s pleasant and unique enough that I believe I would gladly wear this on a regular basis.
Concluding Thoughts:
I’m going to miss the sexyness of the original ammo scent, and I’m going to miss the sweetness of the game scent. Unfortunately none of the scents strike me as absolutely amazing, but right now the scent I like the best is FF22. It’s unique and sweet enough I can definitely see myself wearing it.
My second choice would have to be FF21, this scent is tolerable but far from good, the nice thing about this scent is that it’s light and fresh enough that I could probably cover it with another scent. And a far as FF20 goes I can easily say that I truly dislike this scent, if this was the chosen scent I would have serious problems wearing Androtics problems without ordering a custom scent package.
First Musings -
All 1st spray from bottle to paper -
ff20 - Nice… spicy… more mature kinda scent. As it dries down a bit it opens up and has a very rugged and manly kind of feel/scent to it.
ff21 - Good… soapy… very clean scent. Definitely reminds me of Irish Spring. Still very soapy after drying into the paper… bright… green kinda scent. Still getting a LOT of that soapy feel to it… very clean… almost the feel of someone who showers a couple times a day
ff22 - Decent… very floral… almost smells like an old lady parfum. Has a very fresh ‘rose’ kind of scent to it… not very masculine at all. As it dries down to paper it gets a bit sweeter… reminds me of grandma smell.
Quick local test with some co-workers - 1 guy and 2 females.
first female is partial to ff20, 2nd female is partial to ff22, and guy is partial to ff20
All 24-27 age range.
Will do more testing and reporting on this… so far… verdict is not drawn.. although I’m leaning slightly to ff20. I like the masculine scent that it puts off. Female 2 described it as ‘douchebag in a bar’ lol.
- follow up
It’s about 2 hours after I sprayed this to paper.
FF20 has drastically mellowed down and is quite faint (granted, I dont think I got a whole spray on it). Still very clean, kinda musky, distinguished and sensual kind of smell.
FF21 has dried down quite a bit… still has that very fresh crisp scent, but the soapy aspect has died down a lot. It has a very slight hint of game similar fragrance hiding behind the forward note… soft but bright
FF22 still smells like roses/old lady parfum. Reasonable longevity from it… but nothing too overpowering.
OK I got me a bottle of Ammo FF21 scented and I’m going to use it. I need to reacquaint myself with some ladies and get myself back into the swing of things. Idle hands are the work of the devil ![]()
I decided to spray on three sprays of my old standby and very good friend–Ammo. Smells like laundry room, fresh clean linens, not quite like soap, but fresh and clean.
I still have to go out and test it and see about the diffusion and silage and get opinions on the scent itself. Initial observations are I like it, but maybe its a bit off for some reason. The only concern I have, and wondering has anyone else noticed it, just how badly Neroli smells when wearing the two together. Not even close to the same area: Ammo on wrists and Ishine on neck and wow I have never thought Neroli smelled bad. I’m interested in anyone elses observations.
this is with the new ff21 ammo?
I can see how that really bright fresh clean scent would clash horribly with the neroli
will try it out later this evening after my meeting
ps - care package came today… THANK YOU! I will be working diligently to report back on everything I have in my arsenal now haha
Yeah it is really odd but dries down OK. I know that Neroli has taken on this ad nauseam argument for and against with me choosing sides for, but wow, I nearly switched sides.
Enjoy the package my friend as I am sure you are great for testing and reporting back. Of course, as is the case for anyone needing assistance, if you need support call me on the hotline.
I haven’t tried FF21 with Neroli but I do know it mixes VERY well with Grapefruit scent (Especially after the Grapefruit has dried down).
OK this is really, really strange. I was on my way over to Republic Coffee in Memphis for a meeting on a joint venture I am working on with a friend. It’s a charity thing we are involved with, but that’s beyond the point.
So as I posted a little bit earlier I applied some Ammo with FF21 and headed over to Memphis. On the car ride over I noticed how clean and out of the shower it smelled. Very nice so far.
What is the batch number on that Ammo? #212 version 1.8?
i did it as a self test and layered the 2.. and i actually like the smell. the ff21 and neroli seem to compliment each other for some reason.. gives it a bit more of a citrus kinda freshness.
maybe that’s because i’m smelling both at the same time… could be the change of scent from ff21 to neroli in different levels did it
Oh yeah I guess I forgot to write about what was the strange part. I thought the scent was really strong and I asked my friend what he thought of it. He leaned over and smelled my little tree air freshener Black Ice and said clean. I was like no dude I meant my cologne and held out my arm. He smelled it and then with a puzzled look asked me why I was wearing air freshener
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I smelled the Little Tree and then smelled my arm and while not exactly the same, strikingly close. I also didn’t get any hits tonight, although it wasn’t to busy either.
So I just place my vote for FF22, I wore it all night - did 6 sprays just to see if it would kill me
It works, is not cloying, reminds me of the top notes of Creed’s SMW, I think is unique enough, and is light, can be covered a lot easier then FF20, and I think is better for going out to clubs and bars and will appeal to the mass and younger 20’s and 30’s, FF20 I think will be a real problem for most men under the age of 40.
AS far as FF21 goes, I think it is cool water gone sour, and is very harsh and cheap smelling. Maybe it is my skin chemistry, but this is my least favourite of them all that I had to scrub after 45 minutes or so and not sure I want to try it again. I personally would not want to smell like a cheap cool water copy.
I’ll be using FF22 myself today after a hot shower and clean clothing. Sweaty and smelly after getting back from the gym, but OH do I feel GREAT!
Thanks for your feedback and vote Denec. Coming from someone like yourself dedicated to colognes as you are, your vote means a lot.
Thanks Steve =)
I am not done using it neither…I am about to post a report with P90 covered with F22 =)
I voted FF20 - mild, little spice and mature. Does not seem to stay long on me.
Maybe an hour. Would be covered easily.
FF21 knocked my nose for a loop - it’s strong and comes on like a deodorizer in the men’s room - Lysol or something. After wearing it for a while it does mellow out and smells like Reclipse said - like Irish Spring. Soapy Clean.
Has a lot more staying power. I would think this would be hard to cover. One squirt’s good for about four hours.
FF22 is too “powdery” but I’d give it second place to FF20. Lasts a little longer than FF20.
None of them beat Akuto in my book.
I’m going to write this in the thread I started later, but I just wanted to express that FF21 proved to be amazing with my skin chemistry!
My initial impressions were that it smells almost exactly as cool water, but the scent has evolved into a more citrusy-lemmony smell that still keeps the cool water pleasantness.
It has been two and a hours and I just washed my hands, but I can still smell it when I smell my wrist. Probably if I hadn’t washed my hands it would still be going strong.
The first couple of hours the sillage was good and although I was scared it might be too light, it kept its strength. This might be a great coice for the new ammo!
I wore FF22 with MX330 and the smell was pretty light, it actually smells better on my neck (I wore three sprays of FF22 and four of MX330 around my neck) but the smell doesn’t seem to last. It definitely seems like it can be covered, but I didn’t really notice an increase in pheromone projection or diffusion. It does seem to smell a bit better around my neck, but on its own I really can’t smell it too much. It’s not too strong in scent, so it can be covered pretty easy.
The fact that it can be covered with ease makes me want to change my vote from FF21 to FF22 but not sure yet.