A friend, a party, and an objective. Advice needed.

I am friends with this girl at work and I take her to a lot of parties. I’ve been to her house and we talk a lot and she’s starting to grow on me. Unfortunately, through the course of our conversations and her dumping her everything on me, I’ve come to know that she’s never interested in people like me. Instead, she goes for a specific type of guy, which she then complains about. Long story longer, she drinks a lot, as most everyone does, at these parties. What pheromone(s) could possibly tip the scale in my favor for a little fooling around with me, instead of her fooling around with other guys there?

Keep in mind, I drive her there, I am around her a lot of the time at the party, and I always take her home.

Thanks guys,
IMTL

sounds like you dont even need pheromones, your relationship with her may already be set. She is comfortable enough around you to let you watch over her while she gets crunked at random parties. If you are not her type, why mess things up for one lame makeout session. If you want to figure out whether there is hope for you and this girl, let her see you getting down with some other chick. If she gets jealous, perfect. If it bothers her not at all, then thats how it will always be.

I guess you should try a little Ammo and Instant Openness to conduct this experiment.

Well to start off I would like to ask why do you say “she’s never interested in people like me”??? Thats a bad way to start my friend..Always be confident about yourself…
If you say she complains about the guys that she looks for, just tell her that the right guy is right in front of her..

I havn’t used any pheromones yet since i’m waiting for my delivery but I’m pretty sure that Instant Shine will help your confidence out, and Instant Honesty or Openness..

Correct me if im wrong experts…

Sure she trusts me enough to tell me all of her personal feelings (She’s a hypocrite by the way). Sure she feels safe around me. Sure her mom likes me and trusts me when I sit in her daughter’s room really late at night for a couple hours. All of this is great! Except, I already tried going out with her but, she doesn’t see me like that! She’s attracted to a specific type of guy. They have to be spanish, close to spanish, and an asshole. We won’t go into why she’s a hypocrite based on what she tells me and then what she does at the parties, unless you think you need to know that to help me.

My self-confidence is fine. I’d just like to attain an edge that may be the impetus for her messing around with me, rather than some random dick at the party. Make out session, head, exotic yoga, I don’t care. I just want to get something.

I’ve tried Ammo and I’ve tried Turn Up the Heat when she’s laying all over me on the coach drunk. I tried making a move but, it was quickly denied.

Help me guys.

have you tried those the pheros when shes not drunk?

she probably didn’t respond to the pheromones because she was too wasted, even so keep on with the approach, she could just be playing hard to get. Try learning some simple spanish phrases, maybe that will help out a bit. Just keep pursuing :wink:

My opinion is that this situation is essentially LJBF.

You drive her to parties, you look out for her when she’s drunk, she confides in you..you’re basically her bf without being her bf.

You said you already asked her out, but she said she’s doesn’t see you like that. Well, that’s LJBF right there.

My advice to you is to start weening her off of your support. Focus more on your shit, whatever it is YOU want to accomplish, figure out, etc…go to parties without her, or check out different scenes. Go meet, hang with, or date other girls. If she wants spanish or close to spanish looking guys, etc etc..and you don’t fit that, can’t do anything about preference, who knows though, it may change.

Everyone’s a hypocrite now and then, so forgive her for that, and just make your life as best as you can. There are definitely other girls that you’ll be feelin.

Now, for the pheromone part, I don’t know what you currently have, or what age/situation you’re in. Most guys will probably want to go with Ammo because it’s sexual. I personally perfer Instant Shine and Instant Honesty. Instant Gentleman is also really nice.

If I were back in high school, I’d wear 1 spray of IG, 1 spray of IH and 3 sprays of IS. If I were at college, I’d up the dose of IG up to 2 and maybe IS up to 4.

I’d wear that, or something similar on a daily basis and just..well, pimp it up. :smiley:

I have to agree with Phya on this one. Best way is to look out for yourself first and not get caught up with getting this one. A girl who admits she likes assholes (or Instant Jerk users :smiley:) has still a way to go in terms of maturity.

no no no. Go after this girl, but be prepared to realize that the closest thing you might ever be is her ‘go-to-guy’

Im in the exact same situation. You’ve got to at least try.

well I have to say that phya might overule my thought there.. He has a point there with LJBF. Ignoring her might benefit you in 2 ways. The 1st of course is that you will meet some1 better at other places, the 2nd is she might miss all the attention you were giving her and then who knows, she might come knocking :wink:

My opinion doesn’t ‘overrule’ anybody else’s opinion, including yours. :slight_smile:

That’s just from my experience. If someone wants to limit who they date to certain ethnicities or characters, you can’t do much about that.

PAE bring up another way to go about it, which is go for it. You could do that too, I’m not discouraging it. Just understand that you can only go for it so many times until the current relationship is no longer. If you’re willing to risk the relationship, by all means go for it. You may crash and burn, you may just remain a go-to-guy, or you might steal her heart. Who knows.

Whatever you do, if doesn’t work out, all I’m saying is, don’t dwell on her, and move on.

I’m not dwelling on her, I’m not hanging on her, I’m not waiting on her. I have no problems getting other chicks when I go to parties. I’m simply wondering if there’s a way to smudge the line of the friends box. That’s all.

I’m way past Shine, Honesty, and Openness. She already tells me everything (for the most part), she can talk for a while, and she’s in a good mood all the time when she’s around me.

Lol, It was a joke phya with the overuling, I just meant that your opinion made more sense :wink:

And IMTL you’ve already tied smudging the lines of just being friends by making a move on her (even tho she was wasted when you did). Your other option is to just ask staright foward “can we be something more then ‘just friends?’”

Then you will get your answer, if its a no, then fuck it..but keep her as a friend and start macking girls, even in front of her, maybe you’ll see some jealousy :slight_smile:

I wish you luck with your friend or future hit…

Ohh, okay, gotcha. :slight_smile:

Exactly, you already did try and smudge the line. And you’re right, you are way past Shine, Honesty, or Openness. That’s because pheromones aren’t the answer. You would also be past TUTH, MX203, etc..etc..etc..though you never know. :wink:

But since you’ve got no problem gettin other chicks, why don’t you just do that and see how cutting her off goes.

OK guys, thanks for your advice!

IMTL