I hesitate to ask this, but the idea has crossed my mind, and maybe others have thought of it as well..
I date alot of women, with the intention of one day finding “the one”.. in the meantime, you meet women, you have fun, they get caught up and then its break up time.. and lets be honest, telling someone you don’t want a relationship can be a bit hurtful- no matter how gentle or artfully you do it.
I always make sure to be honest and go slow on the relationship thing, but that backfires as well.. Sometimes the one you can’t have becomes the one you want most because it doesn’t want you..
Anyway, its been a pain in the a**. I become pretty good at maintaining friendhips and ending on good terms, but its never easy for me.
So, and idea… would it be possible to use mones, not to sexually attract, but to sexually disinterest a lady you are dating…yet maintaining a friendly vibe all along. I was thinking of a mix that says “friends” while removing sexual interest. So as the relationship begins to die down, she gradually loses sexual interest in you.
I know, its bad.. but man I hate having to tell women that I’m not that into them.. The inevitable conversation, etc just sucks…
well it probably would be possible - like, for women who are suckers for heavily masculine vibe of A314 or Ammo, something beta-ish (like what MX297 is reported to do sometimes). Or say, Jerk plus copulines for a woman who’s looking for a deep commitment. Just look for pheromones suggesting qualities opposite to the ones that she’s looking for.
It won’t be easy though, as most commercially available pheromones seem to exude attractiveness.
Thanks. Another problem is that once you have developed a sexual relationship, almost anything can be seen as a progression of that relationship. So if, for example, you wear something more “beta-ish”, she might take that as a signal that you are seeking commitment, or to “settle down”.. Might turn her off, but it might make you more relationship material if that is where she is heading with you anyway.
Still, I think I heard there is a pheromone here that is a “cock blocker”.. can’t seem to find it in the search function.. maybe that would help?
Or send her flowers every day, then call/text her 50-100 times a day, shower her with presents and start protesting your undying love at every opportunity and attempt to spend every moment of time you can with her.
Give it a few weeks and she will ditch you without a second thought!
And wear a strong A1/P74 mix - Instant friendzone.
You see, but that always backfires.. I think the more you withhold something, the more people want it. I tend to be the independent type as it is and I rarely- even in full blown relationships, call every day etc.. and I think it makes it worse…
Exactly!!! lol. If only I had the stomach for it. The more you chase the more they run, but I think I’d rather have them throw vases at me than call every day.
Now the A1/p74 is more what I am looking for! Instant firendzone- EXACTLY!!
Why isn’t this a product? lol
So its on my next order. Any info as to why?
BTW Mobo.. I am seriously starting to think I am going to have to buy you a togo. You’re The Man..
Ha!.. But what if she says yes?!
But is it me, or are women in general really pushing for commitment much sooner than they were a few years ago? Up to five years ago I was up to my ears with women who just wanted to have some fun.. now they seem to all want to settle down- right now, thank you very much.
Its not age either- I date from 21-40 year olds.. its the same across the board. Whats up with that?
Your older then you were 5 years ago, thats what is different.
The oats have been sown and all that. Thats what our daddies tell us when they explain the difference between boys and men. Boys are still sowing there oats. Men are ready for harveting. Wait till they have sown there oats. Course some sow longer then others (snort) but we can sense when its time for harvest.
Not really if you withhold for a few days she’ll want you more, but if you call her 1x every 3 weeks and date her 1 x every 2-3 months, she’ll dump you.
And you don’t have to worry about being accused of being a stalker calling her 50 times a day nor spend a single moment of your time on her when you could be dating other women you want to see more.
Just think of the alpha male, they don’t have time for sex all the time… They’re too busy achieving.. if you’re truly busy she will accuse you of either cheating on her or not paying any attention to her and either way she will say she wants to discuss your relationship… At that point you ignore her even more. I’ve had women break up with me when Ididn’t call for 2 weeks.
Or do this, hire two prostitutes and sleep with both of them in your bed and call her over… that should do it.
I haven’t read through all the posts yet but I think this is a great idea. it might help maintain friendly relations when a couple break up and there are children involved.
Caveat: the mones user would have to be friendly and try not get caught up in the warring that can occur when things deteriorate so much and things get hurtful and personal.
It’s worth a go to keep things friendly and happy - even if it’s just for the self effects and to keep the mones user on the right path so to speak.
I think it would call for an action plan. The problem is you’d have to know the other person well enough to select the right mones for the job and if you know them well enough then that makes the task that much harder. Catch 22.
Mobo what kind of reactions do you get when you use just P74. Just curious because A1 is the “love” pheromone so its got to be the P74 thats pushing it in the friendship direction. What dose you using ?
Man up and just tell them the truth. I am sure it sucks for them as well once they find out your “not into them” after you have literally been into them.
I know its hard and you dont want to hurt them but what most men dont understand is that to a women, sex implies your into them. It tends to mean more to us so there is probably no mone that will take that away once we have a preconceived notion. Especially if you used mones to get to there in the first place. You cant go backwards with feelings. Once felt they are remembered.
Nothing says “I just want to be your friend” like MX297 does.
I totally disagree with the notion that MX297 is “Beta”. Unless by beta you mean Feminine. I have extensively tested MX297.
MX297 will turn you in to her BFF. She will have no sexual feelings for you whatsoever when you wear MX297. She will talk and be very friendly with you but will not come on to you.
Another great pheromone to turn her off is EST. EST is a female pheromone. I think that MX297 may have EST in it. You can not get laid wearing heavy amounts of EST.
Off the top of my head I think EST comes from pregnant women.
No I am most certain MX297 doesnt have EST in it. Dont know about the BFF thing with it though.
EST is a female molecule but men make estrogen’s as well. On males it just gives a more sensitive empathic vibe. Now if a girl doesn’t like that vibe on a man or if a guy already is rather sensitive and less alpha or masculine it could be a turn off but wear it with a strong alpha vibe and you practically have the perfect male. Strong assertive sensitive and caring. Its the type of male they write romance novels about. Add some anone and thats the type they write really dirty romance novels about (snort)
That being said undoing feelings is much harder to do then evoking feelings to begin with. Its like making a mistake, most times its easier to not make it then it is to get out of it once you do.
Yes, “I love you - Like the brother I never had!” or “I love you like the bestest friend in the world” or “I love you - we have just everything together, just I don’t want to have sex with you!” And trust me, there was no “brotherly”, “best-friendly” or placating behaviour going-on there!
I find both are excellent moderating/comfort/closeness/bonding pheros but without something sexual in the mix, they are both far too friendly on their own and together they are pretty-much fatal.
P74 on its own however is a great social/engaging/pleasant company phero - The sort of thing I’d wear to wind away a lazy Sunday afternoon with friends and I am very fond of it in professional mixes for public-facing work, esp alongside IH/A314 for situations like conferences/events where I need to get sometimes very difficult personalities on my side and singing from my hymn sheet quickly. I’ve found that this can also be transitioned to a more sexual mix very effectively by adding some overt none like NPA or TUTH.
Saying that, lower dose P74 is useful for comforting/bonding/empathy and “boyfriending” in dating/sexual mixes, even alongside A1 but I would keep the dose/proportion pretty low in the mix. 20-40mcg tops and that would have to be alongside some pretty overt none.
Not to change the origonal subject but have you ever used anone and A1 together. If so what effect did it have. I am playing around with a new mix and would like your input.
I am still sowing oats, damn it!! I am not done! lol…
But, yeah, I am different now. And the truth is, I really hope I meet the right woman, as I’d love to be “harvested”
But until then… I plan on sowing, and sowing and sowing until I am forced to stop!
I try to be up front with people about things. Once I decide that I am no longer interested, I say so. I just would like to make the process a bit more easy and smooth..
But I would be lying if I didn’t admit to having done that more than a few times- disappear, not the hooker thing
