I was just wondering if pheromones can help someone to steel a girlfriend from another person. I am not suggesting to do something like that (cuz it would be mean and against the Guys Code). I am just curious.
Also if u think it is possible, state why its possible, and with what combination.
No its not possible. Thats not what mones do or how they work.
If this “girl” is committed, attracted and happy in her current relationship your mones may make her notice you. She may even find you attractive but she wont act on it because she is happy where she is.
Pheromones dont make people do things against there will or trick them in to doing something they do not want to do. They simply communicate information and evoke feeling. The dont eliminate the logical side of the brain.
Now if she is unhappy in her current relationship. Your wearing mones could make her aware of an attraction to you which could inspire her to break up with her current boyfriend and move on however mones alone are not going to inspire that. They are just one part of attraction.
Tisha
Not to be a smartass (actually, i want to 100% be a smartass here) how do you go about “steeling” a person? I’ve wondered what it meant when people were “stoned” in the old times. And i know they weren’t strapped onto a gas mask and pumped with marijuana until they suffocated.
The spelling is bothering me. Forgive me if English is not your first language, but otherwise please get that right.
And for not so obviousness-sake, pheromones can only help influence people. I believe Tisha was the one who said if pheromones made people jump your bones ie. the axe effect, you could spray a lamppost and women would be humping that all day long.
Nah, The Mones could Only At Best Accentuate Any Feeling that are Already Present… If She’s into This Guy and Doesn’t Know You’re Alive… Nothing Will Change Except the Weight of Your Wallet and the Time you Wasted…
That’s a really random question about the potential of mones, followed by a disclaimer, followed by specifics.
It’s kinda like asking if a person could use a gun to commit a crime, then declaring you have no intention of ever committing the crime, and then asking for specific details on how to go about doing it.
In other words, you’re not likely to find many people that will give you advice on how to do something they probably consider unethical and denying you have any intention of using the knowledge you seek is really just insulting the intelligence of the people you’re asking. So please, at least be honest about your intentions.
That part out of the way. I’m actually going to answer your question in a way that will be as useful to you as is realistically possible.
Pheromones do not override free will, they do not equate to mind control. They waft off our bodies and are picked up by others. The details of WHAT mones are in the total signal, their ratio to each other, and the intensity of the signal communicate to other information about our health (both genetically and lifestyle resultant), our overall personality and current state of mind.
Ideally the information communicated is attractive to others, they breath in our general vicinity and they get a “feel” or “sense” of who we are, we’re throwing off a vibe or aura that effects them on an instinctive and subconscious level.
Now in modern humans these are still strong feelings that can lead to something but the conscious mind is still powerful and if the other person detects conscious evidence that runs contrary to the signal you throw off, the signal will be disregarded with a sense of “hmm, now that I had a chance to talk to him he really doesn’t seem to be all that, I must have misjudged him…first impressions can be so misleading”.
So pheromones can and almost definitely will get you some initial attention/curiosity/intrigue that can lead to attraction but only if you can create attraction. The best way to create attraction is to be attractive. (note I did not say be good looking as the two are not always the same thing).
I mean it’s possible to build attraction and seduce a woman that has a boyfriend or husband if the conditions are right and you know how to manipulate her emotional state and flip attraction switches and yes, pheromones can be extremely helpful with this. But the drawback to that is that if you’re interested in anything more than a very short term fling she’s going to lose interest rather quickly.
She’ll lose interested because the tactical game you’ve run is akin to being sick and taking a pill that can temporarily relieve the symptoms of a disease while leaving the actual virus that causes it alone so that the problem comes back after the pill wears off. Obviously the better choice is to take an antibiotic that kills the infection and then follow a healthy lifestyle that reduces the odds of you getting sick again in the future.
IE you can run a game based on the M3 model and possibly do quite well, but what happens several weeks into the relationship when you’ve been specializing in meeting and building attraction, but haven’t actually changed your natural personality or lifestyle to reflect the person that you convinced the girl that you are? Three weeks into it will you still be trying to “open” her by asking “who lies more, men or women?”.
If you cannot BE the guy you convinced her you are during the initial running of your game, she’ll leave in short order. And, she’ll be upset with herself for leaving a boyfriend she may have had genuine feelings for, I’m pretty sure he won’t be happy, and you’ll be back to the drawing board sans the girl.
However,if you learn to internalize the qualities you hope to convey through conversation and mones, and make living an attractive lifestyle part of your daily life, then you essentially BECOME the game you throw. At this level the girl may very well decide you’re a better choice for her than the other guy. And you may have come so far along that you’ll have overcome your oneitis and see that there are so many single women available as options to you that you no longer feel the need to end a relationship in order to get one particular girl. Which is one of the most attractive traits you can develop.
I believed you until you asked ‘with what combination’.
Please be honest.
Nobody is believing your “just curious” thing. If we aren’t honest on this forum with ourselves then it will just become a big pile of b.s. and that really doesn’t help anybody. Let me give you a hint: If you know its wrong and you don’t even want anonymous strangers who don’t even know who you are to know you’re planning it…
Then its an awful idea.
And everybody else has given you great advice, btw.
Haven’t you guys noticed that this guy is probably 13 or 14 years old? That’s how I used to type at that age. He probably should avoid most/all pheromones at that age.
Alright, i do have an intention from this question, but in my case i am the guy with the girlfriend. I have a colleague in my university that knows about mones…actually everyone in my program knows about mones, because it is called “Neuroscience”, but that guy knows about mone colognes and my friend “his sister” told me that he “romantically likes” my girlfriend.
That is why i asked about the specific details on how to do it and with what combination so that i would expect what he would try to do so that i would counteract.
As for the reason why i asked the question like that, probably because of the loads of IS i had on me when i was typing that question.
LOL it sounds like you’re turning this into some sort of Dungeons and Dragons game.
I am a Level 4 Pheromone Enthusiast and I cast my Ammo + IS spell on your girlfriend!
But wait… you then as a Level 7 Pheromone Master counteract his spell by cloaking your girl in your invisible A314 + IH shield.
Then Mustang swoops in and uses ICM 2.0 and banishes thegentleman away.
@rolandcubed - He’s from canada
@op - tisha is right, the only times you can really steal someone from their bf is if she’s already unhappy. It’s still not good for business though, you’re essentially taking a gf who would have a past history of leaving someone once a new guy comes along that treats her a little better than the previous. It just causes too many problems, don’t do it, I’ve done it, and its no bueno (“no good” in spanish). However, for purposes of your question based on pheromones, I would go with Instant Honesty for some bonding effect, A314/IG for fallout, and some Instant Shine.
Thnx alot for the sarcasm.
Thing is bro, as I said mones can be used to create a general impression and one that can be attractive to others. But in the end it’s no more than seeing a person that’s visually attractive. I’m not trying to insult you but I’m pretty sure that your girlfriend has seen guys that are better looking than you are…because there’s ALWAYS somebody better looking. But she’s there with you.
As for the possibility of your “friend” using mones to steal your girl away. The point Gent was making is that these things don’t work like playing cards in the game “war”.
In other words it’s not like there is one combination that he would use to steal your girl and a counter combo you could use to trump him and neutralize the effect.
Him being interested in your girl and actively trying to steal her away are two totally different things as well. But if he did decide to make a move and try his hand at winning her over…it will be more a matter of his behavior than mone signature. In fact it would likely be harder for him to use mones on her than if he was a stranger since she already knows him to a degree and has some sort of inclination of what type of guy he is. He would have to wear a signal that she finds attractive and be somewhat congruent with it for a while before her initial impression of him changes.
Like she may be the type that responds well to A314 (just as an example) He would need to start using it, AND expose her to it fairly regularly, AND behave in a manner that makes the vibe she gets from it seem real…and it would likely take a couple of weeks before her already existing opinion of him changed. Even then it’s no guarantee that she would decide he’s a better option than you.
If your relationship is strong, and she feels invested in it then his odds are pretty slim to be honest.
I have used deep conversations with IH and IG to plant ideas in people’s heads. I’ve found that conversations under the influence of IH tend to be more memorable - the target dwells on the words more days/weeks afterwards. IG helps with the charisma/trust.
So I suppose you could potentially plant a dangerous idea this way. Think along the same lines as the film Inception.
I have questioned the morals of pheromone usage. Some people on the forums say you can’t force someone to do what they don’t want to do and I accept & agree with that, however with mones you can sometimes change what they want to do in the first place. Personally I would not be ok with using mones to seduce a married woman for example.
I kinda disagree with some of your points Tisha. I’ve had a woman not want to look at me out of anger for days and the I wore edge and I got looks and she even agreed to let me facebook her. Then I stopped wearing edge and she went back to avoiding me again. I think certain mones like edge/npa on certain nationalities cause women to act in ways that defy logical reasoning. Sometimes a horny latina can be persuaded with edge/npa especially if you’ve got some steath mones in there too to seem approacable.
Point is a woman may not leave her current relationship but she may do things that she normally wouldn’t with proper reasoning. Edge NPA gets women hot and bothered and frankly a horny woman is more likely to be persuaded than if she was not hot and bothered and just making small talk for a date.
dsouza
Well your certainly entitled to your opinion but allowing you to facebook her is not exactly leaving her boyfriend or doing something against her will. In fact I doubt edge has anything to do with it. Anger tends to dissipate over time especially in women.
I wont argue that people can be persuaded but mones will not do that on there own. You have to be good at the art of persuasion and it is a art I know well.
Yes if you can persuade but the mones wont persuade her for you. Anone will make women aroused but you have to draw that arousal to you. I know women and we do not act on arousal alone like men do. We are emotion driven and while mones do evoke emotion they do not eliminate or prevent us from thinking and feeling our own natural emotions.
Now its fine for you to have your own opinion but I am a realist. I am not one for telling people mones will do something they can not. I Love mones and I think they are wonderful tools for socialization and communication but just like a hammer can not build a house unless you have all the other supplies and someone who knows how to wield it, Pheromones can not cause relationships to be built without the other aspects of attraction.
In the 12 years I have used tested and suggested mones , I have never seen them make someone act against there free will. Without you mones do nothing. If you have seen persuasive results give you self a little credit for creating that attraction as well.
Tisha
Yes mones plus a little persuasion with a hot in shape body can help steer a taken woman thoughts to cheating and sometimes women do act on their thoughts.
But your right with no game, no results…if a man can’t create emotion within a woman go to a nightclub. A nightclub with music, lights, alcohol etc is liable to put a woman in the mood and create that emotion, and often a man with a body and some npa/edge on will lure women in if he just asks them to dance.
How much game is that? He doesn’t have to have sex with her to get her to cheat. Even if he kisses her and she’s taken that’s cheating.
dsouza
Stoning people is an old form of punishment of throwing rocks at the person ‘guilty’ of a heinous crime. Generally to death, the whole village would throw rocks and stones at the condemned until they were dead,
I guess that would depend on the type of kissing. I kiss people all the time. I dont make out with them. I do it right in front of my hubby and so does he.
That was the point of what I originally posted though. She will only act on those thoughts if she is unhappy in her current relationship or some need is not being met and another guy attracts and influences her to act. The pheromones wont make her do this. If she does its of her own feel will and intention. The pheromones just make you a more attractive noticeable outlet. If those feelings are there she would probably have left her BF eventually with or without the exposure to mones. You and the attraction you create would just be the catalyst for her to act on her feelings finally.
Alcohol is a whole different beast and I agree that drinking can make you do all sorts of stupid ass things against your will.
Tisha
Hahah thanks Astrea. I was being facetious. 
@p51, must be Canadian. Don’t know what their spelling is aboot.
I find the self-effects are more intense with each drink. Instead of drunker, I just feel sexier if I’m wearing Ammo. Or more ‘boss’ with A314.
I AM NOT condoning getting drunk. When I say ‘each drink’, I mean two or three. After that you just become a sloppy drunk who no matter what pheromones you wear - you wont get any hits except in the face by a bouncer.