Advice wanted for my situation

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I’m brand new and it looks like it takes a while for messages to make it onto the forum. I’ve been reading other people’s relationship sagas and it looks like some of you give very good advice. So do you have some for me?

I’m resorting to pheromones to try to win back (even if only temporarily) the absolute love of my life, who happens to be 15 yrs younger than I am. We had a rocky relationship for over a year, and then he moved a long way away for another year - we saw each other three times (7-8 days total) during that year, and did have sex when we saw each other. Last time was just two months ago. Now he’s back, and he’s saying we’re done sleeping together - which is something I’ve already heard many times.

Earlier this week we met for drinks and then sat for an hour and a half in his car, talking. He let me play with his hair and touch him over his clothes, but if my face got too close to his or my hand too close to his … um… lap, he’d pull away and say no, it’s over. I know that supposedly guys will never turn down sex, but this is a complicated situation. And historically … he hasn’t ever managed to effectively say no to me and mean it. So I’m hoping pheromones will be enough to push him over the edge this time and make him not even want to mean it.

I’m kind of skeptical about pheromones, but obviously desperate enough to try them, so I hope the instant sexiness and instant honesty to go bottles I ordered actually work. After searching the internet, it looks like Pherlure is the only product out there that’s been reviewed by “legitimate” sources, i.e. Dateline NBC. And most products are designed for men to attract women, and not the other way around, so I really hope what I ordered is “real” and is going to be effective. I’d love to be able to post a success story. After reading this forum I was persuaded to order from here (and having ‘to go’ sizes didn’t hurt either) so I have read a lot of what’s on this forum, but I’d still appreciate any advice specific to my situation.

I’ve actually never had a problem attracting men. To be honest, having a 2 yr relationship with my target, considering our circumstances, is proof of that. How do I say this - I’ve had friends get upset over my ability to attract men. I don’t understand it or do it intentionally, but I’ve had enough experience to know that I give off some kind of sexy or seductive vibe that can be intimidating to both sexes. Women can be hostile, and although it’s generally strangers, it has happened with women I know. At my first job out of college my boss told me other women would never like me because of the way I looked - which is not even close to a bombshell look, by the way. I generally avoid eye contact with men, because if I don’t I’ve learned there’s generally going to be interest and I don’t want to deal with that. Really, once I felt interested in my target guy, I knew I could have him. A little eye contact, standing too close, a touch on the arm … I knew he was in the bag, substantial objections notwithstanding.

So I know I have some kind of sex kitten thing going on, which at my age has clearly become that “cougar” thing, and he was obviously attracted to that, and if anything I think he’s used it as his mental excuse. Like he hasnt “been able” to say no to me. I’m not planning on using the instant sexiness when I’m not going to be with him so I’m not worried about sending the wrong men the wrong signals, but I am a little worried about overwhelming him. He already knows I want him, so I don’t need a scent that tells him that. I need a scent that tells him that he wants me. Is instant sexiness going to do that?

The instant honesty sounds like a good bet. Sometimes he feels very close to me and comforted and tells me everything, but other times he tries to put emotional distance between us. I like him to feel close to me, and I like feeling close to him, too.

Another thing I should say is that in general, people tell me things. Friends tell me their darkest secrets; total strangers tell me really personal things. I’ve always attributed it to being a good listener - that I’m interested in other people’s feelings and it shows - but maybe it’s been my own pheromones all along! So I don’t know how easy it’s going to be to objectively evaluate the effectiveness of either formula. Men already like me, people already confide in me… I’m really just looking for a boost with this one person.

When I see him this week it’s going to be during the day, and we’ll be alone, not in public, if that helps with dosing advice or whatever.
I’m really rambling here … any advice or feedback will be welcome. Thanks!

Just placed my first order...
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You might try copulins. The ladies can tell you which Androtics products have them.

EOW by another company is pretty much straight copulins. Many of the ladies here like it and use it to spike other mixes.

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The stickies in the Womens section will help with figuring out which Androtics products to use. EOW is Essence of Woman from Love-Scent dot com.

Do you know why he’s saying he no longer wants sex with you? I mean, without an understanding of why he’s stuck there, I don’t know if going forward is right?

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I hate to give the good reasons he has for not wanting to sleep together anymore, because someone will definitely judge me or him or both … although I have read a lot of things on here from people with pretty unusual situations or promiscuous aspirations. He does have good reasons, and I know they’re good reasons, and I should probably agree with him on those good reasons. But I’m still just not ready to give him up.

I know it definitely matters whether or not he’s still attracted to me or not, and that’s where I’m not sure and hoping the pheromones will help. He’s making an effort to treat me better than he has in the past and to communicate better, and he’s willing to spend time together, too, but says the physical part needs to be over. We’ve been together three times now since the last time we had sex, and one of those times was breakfast the morning after, so that probably shouldn’t count. He’s told me several times in the past when he’s tried to end it that he’s just not attracted to me, but we’ve continued to fool around and he has admitted that he sometimes says things he doesn’t mean in the hopes that they’ll stick.

How it’s been in the past is that he likes me much more than he’s comfortable with, and more than he “should”, and he’s been too attracted to me physically to be able to say no. When he knew he was moving back here but I didn’t know, and he started telling me it had to end, that one of us had to put our foot down and end it or it would never end, it made no sense to me because as far as I knew we were living 1700 miles apart and were going to continue to. He said he just couldn’t do it anymore, but five minutes later he was going down on me. Sorry if that’s too graphic, but it’s why I’m so frustrated/confused.

He’s been back for a week and I’ve seen him twice, and his body language has been ambiguous. Is there somewhere I can look up indicators of interest like everyone keeps referencing? He does things like touch part of his body that he knows I like, or he lifts his arms up into a stretch - isn’t there something about exposing your underarms? - and he’s perfectly fine with me touching his lips with my finger, or taking his hand into my lap to play with. So he’s not overtly initiating anything the way I am, but I might be missing subtle IOIs and I’d say he appears to still be attracted to me, so I think he’s just determined not to be. We’re arguing about it, actually, which is nothing new. I’m telling him he’s ridiculous to say no because I’ve heard it before and he’s never meant it, and he says he knows that’s how it’s been but this time he means it. Which I’ve also heard before.

There’s part of him that definitely likes being the object of my affection, and he’s admitted that he likes it, but he still insists he was never with me for the ego boost. He knows I’m not ready to give it up but he’s still willing to spend time with me, alone, which he knows is going to lead to me being all over him, so that makes me think he still likes having me all over him. Or he’d set conditions for seeing each other, or make it a situation where physical contact wouldn’t be possible. So I can’t think he’s completely made up his mind.

I know I’ll have to get over him at some point, but I’m not interested in any lectures on whether our relationship is right or wrong. I haven’t read any judgments on this forum toward anyone who’s just hoping to score with a one-night stand, so I don’t want someone telling me that I’m wrong for wanting this with the only person I’ve ever been so much in love with. I hope this information helps someone give me advice, but since what I really want is straight pheromone/seduction advice, if it helps me to get that you can pretend he’s a virtual stranger I run into once in a while and I’m hoping to get him into bed.

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Hello

Well without knowing all the information its a bit hard to give advice. You dont have to tell us though.

So I am going to give you straight pheromone advice as you asked for. :slight_smile:

You ordered IS/A and Instant Honesty from what I read there. I think you should get a bottle of Lust After Me but I think it may be out of stock so go on over to LS and get some EOW. We can go over how to use it later. I also suggest Instant shine. It attracts people to you and makes them want to be around you more because they feel so good when exposed to it.

Your a adult and I am not going to tell you what to do or who to do it with. This is not what this forum is about. I will say this I think no matter what he says he gets a ego boost from the attention you give him. You may want to take a little of that attention away and see how he reacts. Maybe that will jar him a little and make him make a move first. Not saying it will defiantly work but I would at least try really hard to hold your sexual ques back so he dosnt know your aroused by him. I bet if you do his sexual ques will increase to the point that you cant miss them. Hey no crime in making him squirm a bit. :smiley:

Oh and Pherlure dosnt work for most people and I dont think dateline even used there product to test pheromones. I believe it was Athena but I could be wrong.

Oh LOL and once you have 50 posts they wont get stuck in moderation any more. Its the spam filter not anything your doing. Steveo and myself try to clear them out asap but we both work and sleep (not together LOL) and there will be some periods you will have to wait.

Ok my last edit :wink:

Tisha

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Thanks Tisha - very helpful. Both in terms of products and behavioral suggestions.

I’m hesitant to buy any more products until I see results from these two, and last night was my first tryout and I didn’t get any results, so I’m going to hold off on buying anything else while I keep trying. Now that I’ve tried them I should probably start another thread specific to that?
As moderator, let me know if I’m wrong to do that.

Thanks to everyone who replied! I’m sorry for getting defensive over “my situation”, and I’m sorry if it makes me sound shallow, but right now I’m really just here for pheromone (and seduction) advice. I’ll take as much of that as you want to throw at me!

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Nope no problem go right ahead and start a new one. :smiley:

Be sure to let us know how much you used and where on your body you applied it. We may be able to help you get your products working. Sometimes it takes a few days of wearing it for it to mesh well with you and find the right dosage. Be sure to wear it a few times before you see him.

Tisha

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Hi there, Ms Cheatingheart.
Sounds like you’re in a wonderfully dark and dramatic relationship. Might not be textbook healthy, but whose relationship is, really? (If I had an alter ego, it’d be Wendy Kroy, so I do know where you’re coming from.) You seem to be playing the role of the femme fatale. “Dah-link, you know you vant me. Your leeps, zey say no. But your buhdee, eet say yes yes yes.”

So for you, I’d recommend copulins. Bathe in them. As Tisha mentioned, Lust After Me from Androtics or Essence of Woman from Love Scent. You apply the cops first (cops stink like crazy for 15 min), let dry, and then apply a gourmand cover scent. Dude won’t know what hit him. :wink:
Best,
Kitten

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Oh Kitten, thank you so much for making me laugh, dah-link!

After lurking on the forum, I chose instant sexiness based on recommendations for other situations. Did I choose wrong? Not heavy enough with cops?

If I can’t od on it, should I just go ahead and spray the hell out of myself with it?

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You aren’t wrong, really. Instant Sexiness is great. It’s an all around positive product that will attract others in a general way. Even though there is a smidge of copulins in the mix, Instant Sexiness is safe for work and fine around family and kids etc. So I’d give it a movie rating of maybe PG-13.

Now straight cops, on the other hand, are NC17–if not XXX. They stink. But if used properly, the effect is very strong.

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It sounds to me like your copulins are already driving him mad, so I’ll concur with Tisha and advise withdrawing your energy a bit, or a lot. Let him come to you. Isn’t that what you really want anyway, a man who knows he wants you and is willing to go for it? Sometimes you have to move away for them to get some clarity about the whole thing. Sounds to me like your energy is overwhelming him, and not in the way you want it to.

In fact you might want to try some products that give you that “I’m the queen and it will be your pleasure to serve me, should I allow it” vibe … MX134, A314, Instant Sexiness-A … and don’t appear to want anything from him.