I need some advice from the guys

grrr Frustrated because I may not be able to use these pheromones I just bought any time soon…

The guy i want to use them on is unexpectedly leaving for a seasonal job in NY. He plans to keep in touch but i can’t seduce him with these pheromones over the phone :frowning:. I have the worse luck ever…

I’m really upset about this. I love this guy and I’m not sure he even realizes it. He use to want to be with me many years back, but I was blind and childish back then. I brushed off all his affection and he eventually stopped trying. But we’ve remained good friends…We talk to each other on the phone everyday.

I just recently realized how great of a guy he is and how important he is to me. I talk to him more then anyone else in my life. I can honestly say I’ve fallen for him, but I’m afraid He is no longer romantically interested in me. I’m afraid I maybe to late. I pushed him so far away. He seeks other girls now and feels comfortable telling me about them. Before It didn’t faze me at all. Before I would actually encourage him to seek other girls and blab about them.. But now that I’ve grown feeling for him, I just can’t stand to hear about them.

IDK If I suck at seduction but I’ve tried to seduce him a few times here and there, but he’s actually pushed me away :frowning: He thinks i am toying with him or something…that or he’s being vengeful…IDK what it is. maybe he doesn’t trust that i actually grown feelings for him?..or He’s just flat out not attracted to me anymore? That’s so hard to swallow. I really wish I could get him to be affectionate again. I feel we connect really well mentally, yet I also want to be able to turn him on (without rejection).

egh…I feel like such a fool sometimes. I hate caring.

He’s gonna be in NY for 2 months…:confused: I finally bought some pheromones and copulins to try but now I got to wait 2 months to use them. This really stinks.

Can you guys tell me what you think is up with this guy and what i should do with him?

Thanks.

Without hearing his side of things, it’s difficult to reach a conclusion. But I can say that I’ve seen and heard similar scenarios. Enough to get a good idea of what’s happening

I doubt that he is vengeful. He may think you’re teasing and playing with him or he may just be feeling confused and puzzled, not knowing what to make of you now. It’s very possible he might be secretly hopeful of being in a relationship with you but doesn’t want to get shot down again. Men can hurt too, you know. :slight_smile: Get hurt too often and we build up armour plating to shield ourselves. You’re running into that shield now.

He played his part in the dating and mating game. When will you play yours? Lay your cards on the table and tell him what you told us. No playing mind games and no subtle clues. Sometimes, you have to be direct and appeal to a man’s ‘Just the facts, ma’am’ way of thinking.

I say you have every chance of getting what you want. Go for it. :slight_smile:

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LOL, Unless your looks a total downturn, (you put on 100lbs or something) he is still into you . If he really felt that way about you, it is very hard for a guy to stop having those feelings even many years later. (Look at me, I still want Tisha and Tisha wants me, she just doesn’t realize it, yet. :smiley: ) From what you are telling me. He is playing games with you. He wants you to feel a little of what he felt when you didn’t want him romantically.

Go out to dinner. Dress up nice. Wear a killer dress or something. Have a few drinks. Tell him to walk you to your car. Then turn on the seduction. (Do you like my dress, do you think it’ll look better on the bedroom floor. Blah, blah, I’m not chick. You figure that part out, lol). Turn on the touchy-feely stuff (guys can’t resist that stuff, just watch the movie “The Ugly Truth”). Then tell him how you feel. Exactly what you’ve told us.

Also wear the scent you wore most when he was really into you.

“Odor information is stored in long-term memory and has strong connections to emotional memory.”

Thanks Guys.

Just bite the bullet and slap a big kiss on him! Years ago there’s a woman I would see regularily and we would have fun and flirt. One day I tried to kiss her and she rejected me. Now a few years later she is begining to sow some interest subtly. ie if I lick my lips she licks hers… body language cues. Actually this pisses me off and I give her the cold shoulder and don’t play along. I do have feelings for her but she would have to step up to the plate. My two cents.

Actually I’m meeting her for coffee at 2 PM. I’ll add 45 mcg of P83 to my work mix to see if she pulls a fast one if I play her game…

How did it go fishdude?

Was a good visit with lots of flirting Monday but more “just business” today. Only dif was no P83 . My usual work mix is pretty business oriented but she’s the type of personality that hides her intentions well. If I see her again this week I’ll put some P83 25 mcg on quick and see if that matches Mondays response.

I can’t really grab him and kiss him any time soon because he’s going to be out of town for 2 months…but I did find the courage to bluntly tell him how i feel the other day, And you guys were right…He said he still does have feeling for me. but now hes acting weird… It seems like i made him feel a little awkward or something. He’s been really quiet on the phone and our conversations have been cut down to 5 minutes. :/…idk hopefully this awkwardness passes soon.

goodluck fishdude

Thats bold of you to do that and I commend you. It’s very hard for a woman to take a shot on her self esteem which is the mans part to deal with and we get used to it. My feeling is that he may come around, give him time to process the new information and let him come to you. Good luck, lets us know.

Fortune and love favor the brave - Ovid.

High Five to Maria!!!

He’s acting that way probably because he’s really happy and just trying to play it real cool. You could tell him, “I want you to act like you did when you were first really into me. I miss that about you.”

With all respect I would avoid this since this motion would take him back to the time when he was into her and she wasn’t into him. Why relive that? The girl played ball and the cards are on the table. No more games at this point. Any games from him now and forget the whole thing.

“He use to want to be with me many years back, but I was blind and childish back then. I brushed off all his affection and he eventually stopped trying.”

Most likely he thinks you’re toying with him. I was in the same situation like your guy friend. There was this girl that I really liked and we hung out a few times but not in a date setting and twice I asked her out on a date, she agreed to hang but flaked on me both times. It was a blow to my ego and I never asked her out again because I assumed she didn’t like me. It was really hard to asked her out again after that and I stopped pursuing her.

Fast forward one year later. We haven’t hung out ever since but I invited her out to my birthday party at my place and we got along pretty good. Then we hung out again about 2 weeks later and she seems very interested this time especially when I was leaving the bar, she hugged me and said “Noooo don’t go! Stay here and hang out with me!” I’m thinking, is this girl toying with me? I had to leave anyway but I thought about it.

Then I ran into her again at a mutual friend’s birthday couple of months later, she was really chatting me up but this time, it seemed authentic but I lost interest in her. I was chatting up another girl that was her friend and later she gave me a clue that she was jealous of that. She said something along the lines of “I’m so mad, because guys aren’t paying attention to me!” Which was a response to when I was talking to her friend instead of her. I regret not talking to her that night, she came alone in her own car and my chances of hooking up with her were very high. I guess I was blind and childish at the time.

I hope my story helps you.

I was in the same situation like you now..I’m trying to get him back, at least to win this friend back. When he is into me, i was blind and chicken to step out. Now he eventually seems to hold back and avoid from being seeing me alone. I felt sucked. There is a night where we hang out with a group of friend and he brought a pretty girl along and i felt super jealous about that but i still try to hide it untill a point i just couldn’t stand it. Immediately i texted him(the pretty girl was sitting in between us) and told him i’m upset and bla bla to give him some hint, maybe he din get it so he come close to me and asked me straight to my face in-front of everybody what i’m trying to tell him…as i said earlier, i’m chicken and shy..so i keep quiet.

I’m totally clueless now..lately i just found my courage. I’m going to rage and to talk to him. Seems like the situation has been worst, i just can’t think too much.

I would said good luck to you and hopefully he will clear his mind and come back to you SOON :smiley:

Honesty is the best policy. Tell him how you really feel in person and tell him you are not playing him. Tell him you really mean it. Men like logic.

I know you want him now but you could also see this as giving you a two month practice period with your pheros. A good amount of time to see what works best for you and geting used to reactions to your new personal signature. :slight_smile:

I have no advice to offer, sorry…I am however curious. What’s changed since the time when he was into you and you thought of him as just a friend?
Is he different in some way from how he was back then? Are you?
I ask because to a degree this is a situation a lot of guys around here are actively trying to accomplish. At least in as much as they have a female friend they have feelings for, but don’t know how to make her see them as more than a friend. So I think a little more detail on the specific how’s and why’s of you developing attraction and romantic feelings for him could help a few of the men around here.