Definitely!
Thanks guys! I’ve been on vacation for a couple weeks. I thought it would also be a good time to take a break from mones. When I got back, I had a pile of work to complete, so I’ve been incredibly busy. Nothing like being self-employed! You step away from your business, and everything stops. Fortunately my cash flow didn’t!
I’ve been reading all of your posts, though. I have a date tonight with my artist friend. I’m still deciding what to wear, mone-wise.
As for the teacher guy, I definitely needed a break from him. It was a short term thing, and we both had fun. In the end, he wants to commit to the guy in a long distance relationship. For the life of me, I can’t fathom doing that sort of thing ever again. But, he has a relationship narrative of lifelong monogamy. Frankly, I think he’s more attached to the narrative than to the other guy. But, that’s his issue, not mine. Haven’t seen him in a few weeks, so it’ll be interesting when we meet up for pool again.
Anyway, going dancing tonight, something I haven’t done in a couple decades. I’ll likely wear TAC and P86. I may squirt some Ammo later in the evening.
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314
2 sprays P74 (10 mcg/spray)
It’s been a while since I posted an event. I’ve been pretty darn busy catching up on work after being on vacation for a couple weeks. I had a few social opportunities to use mones, but not as many as before.
This particular event is with a bunch of blue collar gay men. I first met these guys back in November when I wore A314 solo. Had a really good response from guys back then. This time I decided to pair it with P74. This is probably my third time meeting these guys.
OBSERVATIONS:
This was a small gathering of gay men. Unfortunately, the guy I really wanted to flirt with didn’t show up. But, there were a couple new faces and the usual suspects.
Everyone was extremely friendly. I don’t know if it’s my imagination or not, but I suspect might have been secretly checking me out. It’s nothing overt, but a general vibe I get when I’m around him. He always seems to avoid eye contact with me and displays that ever-so adorable Midwestern shy boy demeanor. He’s already partnered and probably not into playing outside his relationship, so I don’t flirt with him. But, he did ask me if I was on Grindr. Curious!
One guy who sat next to me was DIHL nearly the entire time. I tried figuring out the color of his eyes, but his pupils were very dilated. He was probably in his late 60s, early 70s. Maybe it was the tribal tattoos he wore, but I thought he was very handsome and aged extremely well. He and I shared a bunch of common interests, but his body language changed when he found out I was partnered. I let it go at that point mostly because I knew I’d likely see him again at another meeting. Sometimes guys warm up to the idea of playing with a guy in an open relationship. It just takes time, and I’m patient. Sometimes. I’ll just have to find a combo that would be more seductive for him. (P96? P86?)
When the meeting ended, I had to leave quickly for a date with my artist friend. Nothing new to report on the date. We connect extremely well and have an easy time talking with each other. He has been exposed to this combo in the past, so he seems to enjoy it.
ASSESSMENT:
This is a fine combo to use around gay men. If I were in a more flirtatious mood, I would have more fun with it. The meeting was mostly business and planning, not as social as it had been previously, but guys were still very friendly with me. I’ll definitely use this combo again with other gay men.
Good to see you back Hank.
PHEROMONES:
2 spays IG (1x)
2 sprays P86 (10 mcg/spray)
I used this combo for my poly support group. My primary objective when using mones at these meetings is to encourage conversation with new members. I had successful use with P86 with my artist friend, so I thought I’d try it out here. I included IG as a status signature. Typically I’d use A314, but I decided to use IG since it’s a lot more social and approachable.
OBSERVATIONS:
On the drive to the poly group, The Man expressed dismay about results over a particular activity. I can’t go into detail about it, but I asked him if he changed his approach to the activity. He said no, and I got really irritated. I’ve mentioned to him solutions to the problem in the past, but he never followed through on any of them. My irritation was mostly about him doing the exact same thing over and over but expecting different results. At that point I kept my mouth shut and tried to think good thoughts.
I felt more relaxed once we got to the pub and had a beer. There were a bunch of first-timers there. Throughout the evening, I had a very easy time striking conversations with them, and they seemed very relaxed around me. I was able to ask questions, and they readily answered them and shared their stories. Everyone I spoke with were very friendly, relaxed, and happy to be there.
At the end of the evening, the hosts of the group remarked that I was a better host than they were. They said I greeted all the new members and had long conversations with them. They essentially sat back and let me do my thing.
ASSESSMENT:
I think P86 is an underrated molecule. Most users remark about its beautifying aspects, but there is a strong social aspect to this molecule that people rarely talk about. For me, I don’t experience people being more beautiful or airbrushed. Instead, I become very interested in them. I want to know about their experience and why they made the decisions that they made. It doesn’t feel probing or intrusive. People seem genuinely pleased that I ask questions about their experiences. They even voluntarily open up about other thoughts and feelings. It’s like being Charlie Rose. Whenever I wear P86 around my artist friend, he always says I’m easy to talk to.
P86 might be a good putative for people who need to develop their social skills of conversation. I would place P86 into the same category as IO, IH, and P74.
As for IG, it definitely affected me in the car. I know my partner sensed my irritation because the next day he followed up on one of my recommendations. But, I’m not sure how much it added to the party at the poly group. Still, I didn’t see any negative results, so I can at least say that IG doesn’t interfere with P86.
Were you wearing everything in the neck? If you wear P86 to the wrists maybe you could get people to be interested in you more will keeper a coler head in the process? This might also prove useful, it all depends on the setting and goals 
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I wear nearly all mones at my neck. Because it’s winter, I’m reluctant to wear them on my arms and wrists because of coats and long-sleeve shirts. I also wash my hands a lot. When the weather gets warmer, I’ll start using them on my arms. I also forgot to mention that we sat in the covered outdoor section at the pub. There were outdoor heaters, which made it tolerable, but diffusion probably wasn’t that great. So, you’re right, I probably had mostly self-effects. Still, the mones did their job.
I’m going on a date this afternoon and plan to wear A314, P96, and P86. It’s a first date, met the guy on a dating site. We’re going to a very cozy bar, so diffusion should be good even with mones on my neck. I’ll make sure he sits close. Based on his photo and messages we’ve exchanged, that shouldn’t be a problem!
PHEROMONES:
2 sprays IG (1x, World scent)
2 drops A314 (Royale)
Planned to practice pool by myself and later meet a guy I met on an online dating site. (OK, it was Craigslist!) I’ve used IG solo and A314 solo. This is my first time using them together. He’s 54.
OBSERVATIONS:
I usually wear A314 or IG whenever I practice pool. Either one tends to nurture calm confidence in me. Together, the combo made feel like a pool champion, even though I’ve only been taking pool lessons for a couple months. My practice time was very productive. I was a lot more consistent in my strokes and shots. I also had more control over the cue ball.
A couple hours later in early evening, I met my date at a local burger joint. It was our first date. We communicated via messages for a few days earlier and hit it off pretty well. I wouldn’t say he was physically my type, but I really enjoyed his personality and intellect. Those are always huge turn ons for me.
Before ordering food, we sat and chatted over drinks. He was quite animated and had lots of interesting stories. Throughout our conversation, he touched me a few times, sort of like emphasizing a point. But, I knew he was being physically flirtatious, as much as a gay man can be in public.
The lighting was rather dark, so I couldn’t tell if his pupils were dilated, but I knew that his eyes were moist. They glistened quite brightly.
After eating, we sat at the table talking for a while. Towards the end, I must have said “I really need to go” four times. After each time I said it, we ended up talking for another 20 minutes. In total, we were at the restaurant for 3 hours! Didn’t realize that we spent that long there. I’m not one for PDA, but I finally returned the flirt by briefly placing my hand on his shoulder. That seemed to open the floodgates because he got even more flirtatious.
When we finally decided to leave, I asked him where he parked. He parked his car in a nearby parking lot, which I knew was fairly secluded. I offered to walk him to his car. His car was located in a dark area, out of the way. When we got there, I grabbed him and kissed him. This is unusual for me because I typically ask if I could give a guy a kiss. Not this time. I simply went in for the kiss. We kissed and groped each other for a few minutes in the misty rain. Neither of seemed to care. It took some self control to pry myself off of him and walk away. Of course, we both agreed to see each other again. Soon.
ASSESSMENT:
This combo rocks! I was totally surprised by how well it worked. I was afraid I would come across as stuffy, but A314 and IG paired together nicely. More importantly, I liked how well it worked with my date.
I didn’t write about this earlier, but I’ve experimented with Ammo with P96, and P86. I’ve also used Ammo with P96, and TAC. Those combos were OK on first dates. I could sustain conversations with guys, and they were always friendly. Even on subsequent dates, guys were still friendly, but never flirty, even with subtle flirts. Conversations were rarely sexually suggestive. (The only guy that is receptive to either of these combos is my artist friend. He might be a special case!)
I’ve used A314 solo before with gay men and had excellent results. I’ve rarely used IG around gay men, however, because I noticed that it seemed to bring out daddy issues in some guys. Not at all interested in being a daddy. I want an equal. Pairing A314 with IG seemed to augment each other’s finer points. My date wasn’t at all shy about expressing his attraction towards me. I’ll definitely try this combo again with him and other gay men.
As for P86, P96, TAC, and possibly P74, these mones might be more useful on subsequent dates rather than on first dates. I guess gay men would rather get down to business rather than process feelings. Who knew?! But, in all fairness, this might only be true for the type of guys I’m attracted to - confident, upfront, can laugh at himself, and have a touch of sexual edge. P86 and similar mones might be useful with more introverted guys, like my artist friend.
More testing required!
I’m also surprised by the combo, but I’m glad to hear it worked well for you. Have you tried A314 with P80? I think you said before that IG sometimes gets you into a funk, whereas P80 has a bit more of a social vibe to it.
I’m getting a togo bottle of IG and either P74 or P86 because I’m horribly asocial and usually want to be left alone when I’m out and about without a particular purpose. I think I’ll also play around with a similar combo as you did.
You’re right that if I use more than a spray of IG, I tend to be anti-social. I prefer to be left alone in my man cave. Or practice pool. But, I’ve used IG at my pool lessons, and my coach has always gone overtime with my lessons. He seems very eager to teach me everything he knows.
Pairing IG with A314 somehow counteracted that anti-social effect, or I’ve gotten accustomed to being around people with 2 sprays of IG. Hard to tell how the two interacted.
Funny that you mentioned P80. At first, I decided not to use any other pheromones in the mix. I don’t want to create a fallout effect, though I think I may have started one with this guy. (He’s been texting me every morning. This guy is also a type-A guy who flips homes. My mix may have let him know that he’s dealing with another business-oriented type of guy.) But, I thought P80 might be fun to try in the mix since it’s short acting.
For you, definitely try IG. It’ll be a toss up whether to get P74 or P86. Both have their fine points. If you can afford both, get both. But, if you can only get one, my biased recommendation would be P86. I like the upbeat mood I feel whenever I wear it. I also seem to be very interested in people. I don’t get buddy-buddy with people. Rather, I feel like Charlie Rose.
Either pheromone would help you develop your social skills. I guess if you want more of the buddy vibe, get P74. If you want to project more empathy and interest in people, get P86.
My sweet spot with P74 is 20 mcg. With P86, it’s 30 mcg.
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314 (Royale)
2 sprays IG (1x, World scent)
This is a repeat of my mix in post #208. I have a second date with the same guy, but I plan to practice pool prior to meeting him.
OBSERVATIONS:
I brought the bottles of mones to the pool hall with the intent of applying them after practicing pool right before my date. After practicing for five minutes, pocketing balls and fine tuning my stroke, I felt off. My stroke wasn’t consistent, so I go to the restroom and apply a drop of A314 and a spray of IG. Much better! I felt more confident and focused, and my stroke improved.
After another 20 minutes, I figure I might as well do a full dose, so I apply another drop of A314 and another spray of IG. Wow! I really impressed myself. I was much more consistent with my stroke and pocketing more difficult shots. I really felt that my focus and concentration was sharper. There were other folks playing pool nearby, and typically I’d feel self-conscious. But, not this time. I was able to tune them out and focus on my shots.
When I got done practicing, I headed over to my date’s home. He happened to be outside on his porch when I arrived. He greeted me with a peck on the cheek. I’m not terribly fond of PDA, so I motioned to the front door, hinting that I’d like to go in. This guy also lives in a very sketchy neighborhood, affectionately called Felony Heights. I prefer to be low key when I travel in that part of town.
Once inside, we sit on the couch and chatted for a few minutes. It was a pleasant conversation, but I felt uneasy with him. (During the week after our first date, he texted me daily. He used terms like sexy, handsome, and sweetie. The fact that he texted me daily and used terms of endearment made me uneasy.) My uneasiness was amplified when he grabbed my hand and held it. I didn’t wince, though. Instead I remained respectful and squeezed his hand.
After talking about our jobs and other small talk, he leans in, cuddles up to me, and kisses me. That was enjoyable as I was somewhat in the mood for sex. But, I got uneasy again when he started cooing and looking at me ever-so tenderly. Over the week leading up to this second date, I was sensing some emotional neediness through his texts, and my suspicion was being confirmed. I eventually said that I was hungry, which was true since I hadn’t eaten lunch. I asked if there was a place nearby for a bite to eat.
So, we got into my car and drove to a Thai restaurant less than a mile away. We got a table and ordered our meal. During our meal, I noticed that a customer asked the waitress to open the restroom door for him. It was locked with a keypad to keep the riffraff from using the restroom without ordering food. (Again, sketchy neighborhood.) The waitress goes to the door and enters the code.
A bit later, I needed to use the restroom, so I asked the waitress if she could let me in. She then tells me the code! I thought that was very interesting. A314 and IG might be doing their thing here.
When we finished our meal and got into my car, my date said that the staff behaved rather oddly towards him. He has frequented that place numerous times, and he said he was getting strange looks from the staff. I said I didn’t feel anything unusual. I have a Mohawk, so I’m used to people staring at me. But, he said it was the looks that they were giving him. (I thought to myself that they probably were wondering why he was with me! But, I kept that to myself.)
Back at his place, we sat on the couch and talked some more. He eventually cuddled up next to me, held my hand, rubbed my thigh, and kissed me. We kissed for a while, and I was thinking I could overlook some of the apparent signs of emotional attraction he’s been showing me. I imagine sex with him would be really fun. He begins rubbing my chest, and I get an immediate erection. He senses it and suggests we move to the bedroom. I agreed.
We disrobed and got very physical with each other. He then buried his face in my neck where I sprayed IG and said that I smell good. I jokingly said that I showered that morning. However, about 20 minutes in, a bunch of thoughts started going through my head:
“What am I looking for?”
“Do I even like this guy?”
“What is he looking for?”
“What the hell am I thinking?”
And then I lose my erection. In another situation, I would have been embarrassed, but I didn’t care what he thought. I decided I wasn’t sexually attracted to him. End of story. But, I still wanted to be respectful. He is, after all, a human being. There is a way to find a way out of this situation without being cruel.
I embrace him a bit firmer and tell him I’m not ready to orgasm, but I would enjoy cuddling. He said that was wonderful because he’s not ready to orgasm just yet either. However, I thought to myself that he misunderstood what I meant. I’m not ready to orgasm today with him, but I let it slide.
I then asked him what he’s looking for. The first words out of his mouth were, “A long term relationship. But, what we’re doing is fun.” RED FLAG! That explains the neediness I experienced from him even though he knows I’m partnered with no intentions of changing that.
He asked me what I was looking for. I artfully replied that I don’t know. My partner and I had opened up our relationship only in the past 2 years. (The previous 17 years were strictly monogamous.) So this relatively new to me. I figured telling him this would give me a tactful excuse not to see him again.
During our cuddling session, he tried his earnest to get me aroused again. He pushed every button he could think of, but nothing was happening. Again, I didn’t feel embarrassed. If anything, I thought that if he couldn’t arouse me, that’s his issue, not mine. I wasn’t at all sexually attracted to him. Even the way he cuddled with me suggested he was emotionally needy.
I tried to divert his thoughts away from sex, so I asked him about his previous relationship. He divulged that it was a bad one; they hadn’t slept in the same bed for the last 10 years. I asked him why he stayed with him for so long. He replied, “I needed companionship, and I didn’t think I could find someone else. I left him only after he started abusing drugs.” RED FLAG!
By that time, I was trying to figure out a way to end my time with him. I then rolled him over so I could give him a back massage, his consolation prize. Afterwards, I got up to use the bathroom. When I got back, I sat in a chair near the bed and started putting on my close. I gave him some story that I have a couple neighbors coming by for drinks later that evening, so I needed to get to the store to get some whiskey before they arrived.
He also got dressed and said he enjoyed cuddling with me. We kissed again, and I left. On the way home, he texted me about how wonderful the evening was. I rolled my eyes and thought about how to respond to something like that. The guy is emotionally clingy. I have no room for that in my life.
When I got home, I immediately took a shower to wash “it” off. That guy reeked of emotional neediness, and I wanted to cleanse myself of that experience.
After showering, I sat on the couch to figure out what to do next. I was in a serious funk and very tired. My partner was out with friends, so I was home alone. I really wanted to play pool to clear my mind, so I texted my school teacher friend who is the antithesis of emotional clinginess. In fact, sometimes I have trouble reading him because he plays it cool at times. It was 8:00 on a Saturday night, so I doubted that we would find an open pool table. He said he’s willing to search for one with me.
Since I already showered and washed off the mones, I put on a different combo:
2 drops A314 (Royale)
2 sprays P74 (10 mcg/spray)
After a few minutes, I felt like I got my second wind. I jumped in the car and headed to my friend’s home. (FYI, we’re just friends now. In early January, we mutually decided to be just friends, pool buddies. The rationale was that taking physical intimacy out of the equation would give us better balance in our lives.)
When I got to his home, he offered me a beer. I thought that was strange since we would likely have a beer while playing pool, but I agreed. We sat on the couch talking about what we’ve been doing lately. I didn’t divulge my horrible date earlier in the day. I just didn’t want to revisit that experience. All I wanted was to hang out with a dependable buddy and have fun that night.
After our beer, we hopped into his car, and we drove to a gay bar that I haven’t been to in a couple decades. Fortunately, the pool table was open. I bought the first round of drinks, and we started playing pool.
Throughout the game, my shots were very impressive. I definitely improved, but I lost the first round because I scratched on the 8-ball. We had a second round of drinks, but our second game of pool sucked. The alcohol was taking effect. He also accidentally pocketed the 8-ball prematurely, so I won. We both won one game each because of technicalities!
After playing pool, we talked about life stuff - work, people, politics, relationships. Later he asked if I want to check out a tiki bar nearby. I was game for something fun, so we walk over to the place. Apparently, this bar is the next new thing because there was a line to get in and the wait time was an hour. He suggested a different bar, one I haven’t been to either. So we hopped in the car for more carousing.
The next bar was a gay leather bar. This is the type of bar you don’t take the in-laws to! The bar was filled with half-naked guys in leather gear. There were also lots of TV monitors throughout the bar playing gay porn. I’ve been in bars like this before, but it has been at least a couple decades. Nothing about these bars really change. Guys are just as creepy, but we still had fun checking guys out and watching porn while having a beer. Oddly, I didn’t find the porn arousing. I think I was still reeling from the events earlier in the day.
Afterwards, we head back to his house since I had my car parked there. We talked for just a couple minutes about our upcoming week, and then I left. Overall, that was the perfect way to end the day - hanging out with a buddy, shooting pool, having fun. Nothing more.
ASSESSMENT:
I’m rethinking my use of IG around gay men! While it may attract guys, it tends to bring out daddy issues. In this case, emotional neediness. Ick! With straight men, they want to be buddies with me. Gay men might initially find me attractive, but later I find that they’re attracted to me because I’m emotionally stable and they’re not! (My artist friend said I’m the most emotionally mature guy he knows, and I’ve yet to wear IG around him! To his credit, he’s not emotionally needy or has significant daddy issues.)
On top of that, IG not one for the bedroom. No. It made me rational rather than sexual. I got turned on at first, but my rational mind took over, but that was probably a good thing. I didn’t want to get balls deep in a sticky situation.
The incident at the restaurant was also a clear hit when the waitress gave me the code to the restroom, but not to another patron.
P74 was also what I needed later in the evening. All I wanted was to hang out with a buddy and have fun, and P74 delivered. I really felt as if I was hanging out with a buddy from college. Nothing sexual, even when we were watching porn at the leather bar. We were having a good time and joking with each other, just like being with a dependable college buddy.
I didn’t see any hits at the gay bars, but that could have been the result of A314. Usually guys don’t come up to me to talk when I’m wearing A314, which is fine with me. I prefer to choose the guys to talk to rather than the other way around.
I’ll try A314 and IG again with other gay men, but I’m thinking IG is best used in professional situations rather than on dates.
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314
2 sprays TUTH (1x)
2 sprays P74 (10 mcg/spray)
I thought I’d give this combo a try for the heck of it. I haven’t used TUTH much, mostly because it’s in neroli scent, and I’ve been getting my mones in World scent. The Man thinks neroli is too floral for my persona, and he’s not fond of the scent. The World scent of P74 blended OK with neroli, but I wasn’t too crazy about it.
Today I had a bunch of errands to do, so I thought I’ll see if what sort of reactions I get.
OBSERVATIONS:
The main thing I noticed was my stress level rising while driving through traffic. I wasn’t experiencing road rage, but I could feel my blood pressure going up. I felt a tightness around my neck and head, but overall I felt in control. Maybe P74 was helping with that?
I got to my first errand. The folks there already know me, so nothing terribly significant.
The second errand was something I was looking forward to. The guy I had the appointment with is quite adorable. Great eyes! (OK, I admit it. This was the real reason for wearing TUTH.) To my disappointment, he didn’t go to work today. His dog got attacked at a park, so he was at the vet. Bummer on both counts.
The owner of the place helped me out. He seemed very excited to see me. I’ve met him once before, but that was several years ago. I don’t recall him being animated and extremely interested in my printing project. He seemed a bit eager and kept finding things to talk about. At the very most, I was there to drop off a copy of my project and get a time estimate. Even as I made several attempts to leave, he mentioned something else that kept the conversation going. I eventually was able to bid him farewell and get to my next errand.
After my errands, I was feeling really tired. Not sure why. My partner and I planned on having lunch together, and since I was running early, I decided to park near his office and take a nap in the car. I slept for 45 minutes!
At noon, we comes to the car and we head to a nearby restaurant. He’s been around my mones, so I didn’t see anything different. We have a very good conversation about guys we’re seeing, and we’re both are in a very good mood. After lunch, I drop him off and head to the pool hall to shoot some pool.
While playing pool, I noticed my stroke wasn’t consistent. I was making shots and controlling the cue ball, but I felt off. It was as if I couldn’t push myself with more difficult shots. Something just didn’t feel right, and I couldn’t figure it out. After an hour of practicing, I leave for home.
When I got home, I felt tired again, so I took another nap. What the heck? Two naps in a day?
ASSESSMENT:
I’m going to try this combo again. Not sure why I was so tired with it. Maybe TUTH with A314 increased my stress level, but P74 kept a lid on it. By the end of the day, I was simply exhausted. I don’t know, but that’s certainly a theory. This might be a better combo for socializing or a date with The Man rather than doing errands.
At the very least, the owner of the print shop seemed to be extremely friendly, almost buddy like. A314 and TUTH may have impressed him, while P74 projected a friendly and social vibe. (Yay, another alpha male who he can talk to. I know how that feels at times. Too bad I was on a mission today. I would have pulled up a chair and shot the breeze with him.)
My partner also seemed to be in a good mood during lunch, so at least I can say that he’s receptive to this combo. I’ll definitely try this again, but I might consider getting androstenone (5 mcg) in World scent so that it will blend better with my other mones.
I also plan to stick to A314 and IG whenever I play pool. That combo seems to keep me in the zone. Today’s combo wasn’t quite the right fit for something that takes a lot of concentration and focus.
This is a follow-up to yesterday’s post:
Last night, I slept for nine hours! That is even after taking two naps yesterday! It’s been a couple months since I’ve used TUTH, and when I did, I used it solo. This is my first time combining it with anything.
My theory is that TUTH along with A314 increased my stress level. P74, however, kept me civil and friendly when I really wanted to yell at people. This type of incongruence probably overloaded my brain, which made me tired. My brain had to reset. That’s the theory at least. I may need to start gradually and work up my tolerance for TUTH combos.
PHEROMONE:
4 sprays MX297
I’ve tried out this mix numerous times, 1-3 sprays. In my previous attempts, I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary. I didn’t feel particularly giddy, euphoric, or gregarious as some users have reported. This time, I decided to wear 4 sprays to see if I can get any self-effects or reactions from people.
I decided to try it at my poly support group. If I’m able to sustain conversations with new folks or new folks seek me out, I usually consider a pheromone a success.
ASSESSMENT:
I’ll just jump into the assessment because I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary throughout the evening. People were friendly, but I didn’t feel particularly social. With other pheromones (P86, P74, P83, IO, IH), I feel very social. Not as much with MX297. I didn’t feel anti-social, such as when I wear too much IG. I just didn’t feel any more social than when I wear nothing.
During the drive to the meeting, I felt in a good mood, so there was that. But I can’t say that I noticed anything close to the hits of other mones I’ve worn in the past. I didn’t feel as socially smooth with MX297 as I did with P74 or P86. I was able to carry on conversations with people, but it didn’t feel natural to me. I felt somewhat self-conscious rather than fully interested in what the person was saying.
I also didn’t notice any negative behavior from anyone. People were always pleasant, in a good mood, and friendly with me, so there’s that going for it. I also liked the musky cover scent. It comes close to a cologne that I used to wear in college. It definitely brought back those memories.
Despite that it puts everyone around me, including myself, in a good mood, MX297 isn’t for me. I probably don’t play the part well enough to make it work to its full potential as other users have done. Either it’s not congruent with my persona or it needs to be paired with something else, like IO. But, I thought the idea of an MX is that it would work well as a stand alone product, just like the Instant products.
One thing I noticed was that I got incredibly tired three hours after application. I almost had trouble driving home. When I got home, I immediately went to bed and slept hard. Maybe MX297 has TAA in it, the main pheromone in IShine, which also makes me sleepy. For me, IShine is more useful since the hits are much more blatant.
Maybe try MX297 at a party or something like that. That’s where it acts better for many users. I don’t know what support group activity is, but it must mostly serious discussions on the drama side a bit at times, doesn’t it?
It’s not always serious. When I wear IO and IShine, we talk about anything but relationships. That combo makes everyone giddy and laughing. I just didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary or as blatant as other mones I’ve worn. I still have some left, so I’ll try it out at a party as you’ve suggested. I don’t go clubbing anymore, but I’ll also consider it if any of my friends go.
PHEROMONE:
2 drops A314 (Rev. 32; Batch 5C0672K1; 3/14/16)
I just got this in the mail today. Since I had to do an errand, I decided to give it a try. The scent is musk-like, similar to a type of cologne I used to wear in college. Possibly Akuto? It’s definitely different than the sandalwood scent of the Royale version.
I simply had to pick up some brochures I had printed. I’ve been using this particular print shop for almost a decade. When I entered the shop, the printer saw me and got my order. As he was processing my credit card, he said, “Going for the Mohawk look, huh?” I was a bit puzzled because I’ve been sporting the Mohawk for nearly three years. He has seen me before with it. This was the first time he actually noticed it? Maybe A314 enhanced my presence a bit more so that he finally took notice!
Anyway, this was the first time he was talkative with me. Usually he doesn’t say much or anything at all. This time, he made attempts at small talk. I’ll definitely be doing more testing with this version and compare it to Royale.
On another note, I’ve been fretting about how to tactfully tell this guy I don’t want to date him anymore. (See posts #208 and #211.) He has been texting me every day since our first date, and all except one round of text he initiated. Yesterday he sent me a text simply saying, “Good morning.” I was busy all day and didn’t have my phone with me.
When I finally had a chance to get to my phone (6 hours after his text), I texted him, “Taking a quick break. Today is really hectic.”
His response was, “Wow I guess. Take care old man.”
Old man? He’s 54, 6 years older than me! Frankly, I took that as a compliment. At least he recognized my emotional maturity, thanks to A314 and IG! But this also confirms how IG brings out daddy issues in some gay men.
I haven’t responded to that text, and I have no compulsion to do so. I also have a strong suspicion he gets along better with younger guys than guys closer to his age.
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314 (Royale)
3 sprays P86 (10 mcg/spray)
My school teacher friend was leaving for spring break and wanted me to watch his cat for him. I agreed, so we met for dinner and pool. I chose A314 and P86 mainly as an experiment. He and I decided to be just friends. I’m over him emotionally. I still think he has a smoking hot body, but I’m not sexually attracted to him as I was before. I view him as just a friend, nothing more.
P86 has been talked about as having beautifying effects. Since I’m more auditory than visual, I pay attention to people’s words than appearance. This is why P86 tends to make me a good conversationalist. I want to learn more about people and hear their experiences. Anyway, I thought I’ll see how he responds to P86.
OBSERVATIONS:
I met my friend at his home, and his cat immediately came up to me. This was a first. Usually I have to entice her to come to me. After a minute or two of small talk, we agreed on a nearby bar, which also had a pool table. We hopped into my car and drove there.
The evening was fine, but nothing too out of the ordinary. This guy often plays it cool, so I can’t rely on overt hits. While we waited for our burgers, we sipped on our beer and chatted about his upcoming spring break. I also looked at him in the eyes when he spoke. His pupils were partially dilated and he often diverted his gaze to avoid eye contact, something he did on our first date together.
Oddly, even the waitress didn’t make much eye contact with me. She seemed pleasant and very friendly, but seem to have avoided eye contact.
After our burgers, we played a few rounds of pool. I played quite well. My aim and control of the cue ball are definitely improving. However, I won two of three games only because my friend scratched on the 8-ball. No satisfaction of pocketing the 8-ball!
The interesting thing was that my friend didn’t hug me or give me any physical touch after each game. Usually he’d give me a congratulatory hug. Not this time. I also didn’t initiate any physical contact mostly because I wanted to see to what extent he would initiate contact. Nothing this time.
After playing pool, I leaned in close to his ear. In a deep, sultry voice, I whispered, “Let’s go back to your place and… take care of that pussy of yours.” We both laughed and left the bar.
At his place, he showed me how to feed the cat and such. Now, I figured he’d feel more comfortable and at ease in his home, so if he’d display any response directly related to P86, it would be then. Interestingly, I didn’t anything terribly different. He played it very cool, as did I. But whenever I looked at him directly in the eye, he’d often looked away. I felt something was going on his head, but I chose not to ask him about it.
When I left, he followed me out to my car, something he hadn’t done before.
ASSESSMENT:
I’m not sure what to make of this combo. Our conversation was pretty typical, nothing out of the ordinary. I thought it was interesting that he avoided prolonged eye contact with me. When we dated, he was fine looking me in the eye. Even when we played pool the other night, he was fine making eye contact with me. I also thought it was interesting that the waitress didn’t give me any eye contact.
Probably the most overt hit was when my friend followed me to my car. Possible velcro effect?
I’ll definitely try P86 again with him, possibly solo or paired with P74, P96, or IH. I’ll skip A314. I’m not sure if he was intimidated on some level with A314 paired with P86. Maybe he was trying to suppress residual attraction? Not sure. He seemed totally fine when I wore A314 with P74 the other night.
As for me, I didn’t feel any increase in attraction towards him. If anything, I was greatly concerned about what was going through his head, which is a typical reaction whenever I wear P86. I simply don’t feel particularly attracted towards my target, nor do I feel more attractive than usual. Instead, I become interested in what people are experiencing.
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314 (Royale)
1 spray P96 (20 mcg/spray)
I’ve been using P96 around The Man during the evenings. When I use it consistently for at least a couple days in a row, he’s much more affectionate with me. The other night we went on a date and I decided to use A314 and P96, a combo I hadn’t used with him before.
Our date was very pleasant. Towards the end of dinner he asked, “What pheromone are you wearing?”
I asked him, “What are you feeling?”
“Well, I just had a wonderful meal, I’m spending time with my husband, and I’m about to see my favorite singer in concert. So, I’m feeling very good right now.”
“Perfect! I chose the pheromones just for you tonight.”
PHEROMONES:
2 drops A314 (Royale)
1 spray IG (1x)
2 sprays P74 (10 mcg/spray)
2 sprays IH (sprayed to wrists)
I typically wear 2-3 products at the most. I’ve been experimenting with A314 and IG together, and decided I like that as a base, so now I consider those two as a single product whenever I use them together. I think of it as A314 Plus.
I’m meeting a guy I contacted through Craigslist. We hit it off pretty well. I liked the vibe of his ad, and he had a very adorable photo. He’s also in an open marriage (to a guy). I couldn’t resist. I decided to try P74 and IH since I’ve never used it on a first date before.
OBSERVATIONS:
We agreed to meet at a pub near his home. I got there early and found an open table. He arrived about 10 minutes later. Immediately after sitting, we bypassed the small talk pleasantries and talked about our relationships. He seemed extremely comfortable with me and acted like we already knew each other.
After we ordered beer, we continued talking and had some good laughs. We talked quite a bit that we didn’t order any food until we had our third pint of beer!
At one point, he wanted to show me nude photos of his husband. He was so proud of him. In fact, his husband was out on a date when he and I met. I was a bit uncomfortable looking at nude photos of his husband. I mean, who is the intended date? But, he was quite eager to show them to me. (Possible hit from P74?)
At another point in our conversation, he said, “OK, I’m going to tell you a secret, but you have to promise not to tell anyone!” (Possible hit from IH?)
Throughout our time at the pub, he reached out and touched me several times. Even after we left the pub and walked towards our cars, he put his arm around my shoulder and talked to me like a guy would with his best friend. I’m not one for PDA, so I kept my hands in my pocket.
We decided to hop into my car and drive to a nearby walking trail through the woods. The trail was unlit, so I felt more comfortable putting my arms around him. He was very receptive to that. During our walk, we kissed some. We found a bench where we sat and kissed some more. We also talked a lot about our past experiences with guys. He was so easy to talk with, and I felt comfortable sharing with him about my history.
We eventually walked back to my car. His car was still parked at the pub, so I needed to drive him back there. As we drove back to his car, he asked me to sleep over. His husband was away for the night, and he wanted me to spend the night with him. As much as I was turned on by him, I declined. I explained that sleepovers is something I prefer not to do on a first date. I jokingly told him that I really have to trust a guy for him to see me with morning hair. But, he was pleading with me to spend the night with him. In the end, I held my ground. I really liked the guy, and I wanted to prove to him and myself that we will see each other again. (Possible self-effect from IG?)
As I drove away, I felt really good about our interactions. We texted each other a few times over the next couple days. Three days later, he texted me and asked if he could visit me at my home and meet my husband.
ASSESSMENT:
This was a really good combo for a first date. I’m glad I used only one spray of IG rather than using my typical two sprays. It kept me level headed, but also allowed the sensual qualities of A314 to come through. (Man, I so much wanted to get him in bed!) I also didn’t sense any daddy issues or any emotional neediness with this guy. If he had any, IG would have fished them out. I’ve seen it happen with numerous guys I’ve met. Fortunately, my date had none of them. IG also helped me stand my ground regarding sex. I wanted to make sure this wasn’t going to be a one-night affair.
P74 really helped us be buddy-like. I thought it was very interesting how he wanted to show me nude photos of his husband. That doesn’t even happen with my closets friends. I also noticed that after 2 hours of wearing P74, I got incredibly sexual. It’s a weird effect from P74 that I also noticed in previous occasions.
IH also helped deepen our connection and encourage him to share a bit more than he would have otherwise.
This combo is quite good to wear on a first date. I really liked how it made my date feel very comfortable with me, and vice versa. Of course, the real proof of this combo was him asking to visit me at home and meet my husband. So I know I made quite the impression on him.