An Older Gay Male Perspective

I am thinking that now the Instant line will be available in the stealth, that Ammo in this could be very useable for you for events just like this. I would get it some day and try it out since you will not have to worry about the scent with this option. Worth a try.

Yes that stealth diffusion thing is gonna change the game big time :slight_smile:. Great report Hank!

PHEROMONES:
20 mcg P96
1 mcg P75

I tested this mix a year ago, but it was in a much different ratio (50 mcg P96, 3.75 mcg P75). I didn’t have good results with it at an LGBT event. The mix likely didn’t work because both mones were too high. P75 is also tricky, and not all gay men respond well to it. But, I have a theory of the type of gay man who would. So, I decided to test it with my school teacher friend. I’ve used P96 around him a lot, typically with A314, though. This time I replaced A314 with P75.

OBSERVATIONS:
My friend was having a slight crisis with an ex from hell, and he wanted to get his mind off of it. So, I drove to his home to pick him up. During the drive, I noticed that I was feeling somewhat cocky, like I’m a great catch. It was a different vibe than A314, which makes me feel confident without the bravado or cockiness. After I picked him up, we went to a local bar to shoot pool and drink beer. We chatted a bit about his situation, but not much. He really wanted to escape.

We played four rounds of pool. Boy, I sucked royally! I was completely off my game - missed a lot of easy shots, couldn’t see ball patterns, felt insecure about going for tricky shots. Even my friend was amused by how badly I played.

He, on the otter hand, played the best I’ve ever seen him play. His shots were clean and decisive. He made shots that we both didn’t think were possible. He was so amazed by how well he played, he kept saying that he should by a lottery ticket because of how lucky he was with his shots.

Throughout the entire time, I kept making innuendos about balls and sticks, bending over, not hitting balls hard enough, going down, getting it in. Since he’s a school teacher, he always roll his eyes when I get on a roll with sex talk. But, he usually loosens up and joins in.

After our fourth game, he suggested that we go back to his place and spend time in bed. Woohoo!

Our time in bed was incredibly passionate. He also kept smiling, too. I asked him why he was smiling. He said he was happy.

ASSESSMENT:
This combo seemed to work with my school teacher friend. I didn’t sense any irritation from him, nor did I sense he was intimidated by me. If anything, it seemed to have emboldened him as shown by his pool playing.

He was also quite happy and playful in bed. We had taken a hiatus from sex for several months, and only recently incorporated sex back into our friendship. He could have been happy just to have sex again, but I really sensed he appreciated my presence and friendship.

Yeah, I’ll definitely try this mix with him again, but maybe increase P75 to 2 mcg while keeping P96 the same. I’ll also try this out with another guy I just started dating. He has a similar temperament and history as my school teacher friend, so I’m interested to see how well my theory pans out. I prefer not to share my full thoughts about it yet, but I have strong suspicions that P75 will work great with a certain subset of gay men.

Great report Hank! I am tuned into and will be watching out for your theory on testing your new found combo. I am so swamped with stuff to test, but if I can test anything and help you out you know I will. I am glad to see you are!

PHEROMONES:
5 mcg Androstenone
20 mcg P96
7.5 mcg TAC

I’ve used 20 mcg androstenone and 20 mcg P96 in a very sexual situation. This time I wanted to see if I can use androstenone in a social situation, so I brought it down to just 5 mcg and included TAC. P96 could potentially be enough to make androstenone more palatable in a nonsexual situation, but I thought I’d add TAC just for the heck of it.

I’ve been dating this guy for nearly six months. I haven’t written about him mainly because I’ve been so busy with work. He’s an army veteran, 53 years old. I hang out at his house every couple weeks and spend the night. He’s more like a fuck buddy since the most we ever do outside of the bedroom is go out for dinner and watch TV.

Typically I wear A314 and P96 when I visit him. I once tried that highly sexual mix (20 mcg androstenone, 20 mcg P96) with him, but he didn’t respond too well to it. He seemed aloof and kept his distance from me during the first couple hours at his house.

OBSERVATIONS:
When I got to his home, he was in a good mood. During the first half hour, we kept teasing and joking with me about stuff. He and I have very similar humor, so I didn’t take his teases personally. But, he did seem to be doing it a bit more than I was used to.

After sitting and chatting on his couch for a while, he relaxed some and started caressing my back and legs. I then leaned in to kiss him, and then he pulled me closer so that I could cuddle up next to him. We cuddled and talked for a while more. About an hour later, we took things to the bedroom.

ASSESSMENT:
This was a good mix for this guy. TAC put him in a playful mood at first, but then P96 took over, and he was quite affectionate towards me, more so than usual. Of course, androstenone provided the underlying tone of why I was really there.

This mix lasted for about 4 hours. I arrived at his home around 2 pm. By 6 pm and the rest of the evening, he was back to his normal self. After pizza and beer, we watched football and later a movie.

Since he responded well to this mix, I’ll likely try it at an LGBT event later this month. I’ll also try this mix in more mundane situations, like shopping. With Christmas coming up, I have lots of shopping opportunities!

Awesome and really good testing of this mix Hank! I am glad to see another point of view on Enone, TAC, and P96 with your help and of Basileira’s :smiley:

I play around with lowering the TAC dose a little when I use with P96. I have found just adjusting the TAC I can make the Enone/P96 more serious and commanding, or relaxed and be lighter.

I have not played around with keeping the TAC steady and adjusting the P96 dose?

Thank you for your insight. I thought it was really interesting that he seemed more affectionate towards me with this combo than with A314 and P96. It could be that A314 projects an alpha image and he’s waiting for me to take the lead. This time he really took the lead in showing affection. TAC may have also reduced inhibition, but I’m wondering if P96 would be sufficient to do that. From my experience in using TAC, it makes people very playful. So without using TUTH as the source of androstenone and using pure androstenone, I could potentially use less TAC. (My spray bottle delivers 7.5 mcg TAC per spray. I’ll need to try half sprays.)

I hadn’t planned on using only androstenone and TAC. That would give a different vibe, and I’m not sure it’s one that would suit my nature. I’ve tried A314 and TAC. The combo was very playful as long as I initiated the gesture. However, the persona that TAC portrays isn’t really me. It’s fun for a party, but not something I’d use out of habit. I jive with A314 and P96 as a signature scent, but I’m willing to try out androstenone (5 mcg) and an appropriate amount of P96 (without TAC). I like the simplicity of less is more.

PHEROMONE:
1 mcg P75

Did a solo test, but results were inconclusive. I think the problem was the weather. It was bite-ass cold with very low humidity. Did a bunch of errands with The Man, but I didn’t notice any reactions from people, including The Man. Don’t know if it was because of poor diffusion or too low dosage. At the very least, no negative reactions from The Man, despite him being around me for several hours, including in the car during the hour-long round trip.

Just dropping by to greet you a Happy New Year! :slight_smile:

I actually made a work MX where I will be using 1.5MCG total of P75 and some none buffer with other things and will report on it when I can. I find right around 3MCG to be my max and what is weird is some like Conj can go very high on this one. I find the higher I go the women love it, but at the expense of pissing men off. I would be interested in more testing from your view point and what you get out of it down the road.

I’ve been testing out mones since early December, but for some reason I’m getting inconclusive results. Nothing negative or positive. It’s been bite-ass cold for an extended period of time, very unusual for this region. The humidity is also very low to the point that my nose bleeds on occasion. I think the cold temperatures and low humidity might have something to do with the inconclusive results. The only time I think someone is in my cloud is when I’m very close to the person for more than several minutes. Of course, if I’m that close for that long, then something is bound to happen, with or without mones.

I did try P75 (2 mcg) and P96 (20 mcg) at an LGBT gathering several weeks ago.
Lesbians were more social with me, much more willing to laugh at my crude jokes. Nothing negative from guys, and nothing positive either, at least nothing out of the ordinary. The impression I got was neutral, almost like I wasn’t wearing any mones at all. Of course, this might go along with my theory about P75 attracting a specific type of gay man. I’ll definitely try again, but maybe when the weather is not so frigid.

The cold temperature indeed slows down the diffusion and allow only a smaller cloud radius, real small. :slight_smile: