This is my first post in the female section of this forum. Good to be here 
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Anyway whats your take ladies on none and Androsterone? If you can state race that would go a long way thanks.
I want to make a Its me the “Wonder boy” Mix. The only thing missing is strong feedback on this topic.
Like which one turns you on more? Do I have to get a higher dose of Rone to get None effects without the None side-effects?
Thanks Ladies in advance. 
Hi
I think it depends more on your age more then it does on your race. I am caucasion/american Indian 41.
I think younger women in there 20’s are generally attracted to men in the same age group as them or just slightly older. I feel this is because they produce alot of none naturally and less Androsterone. These women are subconsiously looking for the strongest male breeder.
I think there is a sort of shift as men and women age. He may begin to produce less none and more Androsterone. Women are beginning to pass there child bearing years. He will generally attract women in his age group or slightly younger. He becomes more of a leader. I think women are attracted to this because subconciously they are looking for a man who is a good provider. I dont mean just finacially but a man who can provide companionship and reliability.
This is just my opinion from observations, not something I have gotten from a study.
Now for my take on added pheromones…
None tends to make me more aroused. Its defiantly a attention getter and can be intimadating to some women. Its more aggressive. Tends to make me think about sex alot more. Makes sex a bit hotter when I am exposed to it at that time.
Androsterone tends to make me more (I cant think of a way to say this without it sounding bad 
) it makes me more willing. Now by this I mean Androsterone gives off a more comfortable trusting safe vibe. Its still sexy but not in a aggressive manner. When someone feels safe/comfortable they tend to be more willing so this is probably why in my case I get that feeling. The feeling is also not to the point that I will forget my better judgement and run around on my husband but the feeling of willingness is still there.
I think being a alpha female myself Androsterone gives off a nice vibe I am attracted to. I suspect my husband makes alot of natural Androsterone compared to his younger days when he was probably was more none producing. We are both alphas by nature but when we are together I naturally step in the Beta roll to his Alpha comfortably.
When it comes to the sexual side of both these pheromones I can only describe them like this.
None = hot needy sex
Androsterone = making love.
I dont think you can get The same effect as none by using alot more Androsterone.
For mixing a " wonder boy " mix I would think you should go with a higher ratio of none to Androsterone.
But for a "wonderman " mix which by the way if totally different then the “wonderboy” mix go with a higher Androsterone to none ratio.
Tisha
Thanks Tisha. Your like an encyclopedia. Great that answers my question.
BUT…I have one more question. 
Anyone tried Androst-A-none? By itself or in a mix with either Androst-E-none or androst-E-rone?
i post about this very topic alot.
i cannot state enough that if you use 'none, the smallest amount kicks ass and takes names. and numbers, 
im personally at a point where its not attractive to me at all.
im caucasian,so they tell me. 36.
even little amounts piss me off, but with added 'rone im just okay with it.
i tolerate it.
the smallest amount over the little bit you use, sends some of chicks packing. they get irrate, snippy.
'rone on the other hand, i cannot say enough about.
its dreamy.
its anti-depressant.
unfortunately or fortunately its more of an in-love im crushing feeling, less of a i want to do you and leave you feeling.
i think its the pheromone you want to use when you hope they want to hang around more often.
im definately more likely to have sex smelling this stuff.
it makes me want to make you happy.
i havent experienced using too much of it (or just sniffing it )
my opinion is that the balance of the two will play a significant part in how you are percieved and that will weed out the unwanted.
stronger 'none than 'rone will attract more of a sexual lets just get it done vibe.
more 'rone than 'none will be more of a i cant get him out of my head vibe.
maybe you will require two different mixes now? 
I have 5 other different mixes. But the one I stated is one of 3 mixes that catch my eye.
Hmmm, Maybe a small amount of none can help.
Like 1.2 mcg to the total mix.
keep us posted on how that turns out!
my curiousity is piqued !
I suspect much of this “attracted to men in the same age group as them or just slightly older” is a result of opportunity. They tend to spend most of their time among peers of a similar age. If ample opportunities arose to date outta their age group believe me they will. I spend most of my days with women much younger than me (work on a college campus). I’m old enough for them to call me daddy but these women hit on me more than they ever did when I was their age. At first I thought I was merely meeting women with a daddy complex but I think there’s much more going on. Most guys their age have rather poor communication skills and are immature (they still carry skateboards & play with their iPod or cell if a cute girl walks by!). So I think some of them are drawn to the first real man they meet.
True this is why I said generally. There will be girls who go for the older men but they are attracted on a mental level not a sexual level. Its not really that they have a daddy complex but as you said a need to interact and communicate with someone more mature. This dosnt make them less sexually attracted to men in there age group. Now when these boys finally put down there skateboards and they will they will have no trouble attracting there age group. The same girls who were interested in older men will naturally attract to them unless the have developed a serious lasting relationship with an older guy.
Maybe your not giving yourself enough credit and your just hotter then most guys in your age group. Looks matter more to younger women then older. Do you wear pheromones to work? If so do you think they contribute at all to girls hitting on you?
I have gotten hit on through out my life but I do notice a different younger age group will hit on me now that I use pheromones.
Tisha
Yes, I’ve worn mones to work for about 4 years. I think the element of attraction was always there but the mones tend to bring it out with little encouragement, and not necessarily by anyone I wanted to be involved with. Getting stalked twice in recent years by borderline mental cases taught me to cut way back on androstenone. They were really intense and relentless hits, to the point of being distracting and noticed by students and faculty. For work, I mainly stick to “friendly” mones such as nols and accently lightly with none and/or rone. Rone does tend to impart a fatherly persona, not really what I want but better than a horndog vibe.
there are so many posts in the archives about age-related preferences.
also race related as well.
everyone keeps mentioning 'rone being desired for stability and 'none for plain sex, and intellectually it makes sense, but i think its less cycle related and more personality related.
i dont think i have ever been attracted to the high-'none profile, and i know many who werent either.
i also thing gegogi is different all together; he’s in an atmosphere where he is an authority. that has to count for something.
men with personality and brains are going to have more opportunity then man in corner with big arms saying UHG.
I dont associate a mans intelligence or personality with the way he looks. I also dont think men with high none output, natural or synthetic have no brains and go ugh.
I do think rone has its sexy side, but its less intense sexually.
tisha
i generalized.
sometimes it helps to make a point if you exaggerate it.
i was pointing out gegogi’s situation specifically.
Ahh I see, yes he does have a unique opportunity because he is more exposed to younger people and is in a position of authority.
I do agree attraction does have alot to do with personality.
With the above obsevations I made in my first post I was talking more about that first attraction. Before you delve into someones intelligence or personality and get to know them. With natural mones or with synthetic you can cause attraction but its your personality that in the end, will cause interest beyond attraction.
Tisha
see, this is where i disagree with most of the board (not you personally)…
i dont think pheromones cause any initial attraction at all.
maybe curiosity in the pheromones, or smell, but not in the person.
i think theres a vibe or charisma and then the pheromones can encourage or discourage interaction; but i can get attracted to someone from across the room, and they dont have to be a pretty-picture
i can be attracted and then the signiture can halt further investigation or make me wanna jump them.
usually if a guy smells like another chick has been there, im turned off. red light. drama. taken.
'none feels like anxiety, i-know-you-did-NOT-just-roll-yer-eyes-at-ME feeling hahaha.
anol is light funny be-my partner-in-crime.
everyone feels it different, which is why this forum is so damn interesting!
Actually I agree 100% Lor, otherwise you could spitz a fence post and cause all sorts of awkward human/fence post unions! I think too many people saw the discovery channel program with moths involuntarily compelled to mate due to pheromones.
I often feel initial attraction to a woman totally outta sniff range. How she sings or plays an instrument, the things she says, the tone of her speaking voice, body language, posture, clothing, physical assets, etc., combine to create attraction long before my nose gets involved. Her personality and lifestyle help keep me interested.
I’ve always felt, once in sniff range, pheromones merely enhance what already exists. If attraction exists it gets amped up. Without attraction they have no fuel to do your bidding. In other words, pheromones do not create attraction in and of themselves. That’s our job. I think this basic misconception has caused a lot of noobs disappointment. They thought pheromones would invalidate social order and overwhelm freewill. And they wonder “why doesn’t this work”?
I agree with that, but I do believe that Naturally produced pheromones play a part in it as well. Being human and not animals or moths we use a different process. This is why some people can have a initial attraction to someone and then after getting to know them not be so interested. Everyone knows people with interesting qualities that they are not attracted to. Pheromonal attraction exists this however in no way negs out all the things that attract.
I do agree that there has to be something more then a pheromone signature to maintain attraction and that people need to actually put out a effort and not sit in a corner and wait for pheromones to do the work but to say that they do not create attraction is misleading. I believe they can create initial attraction as long as you also have some other characteristic that interests the person. If your personalities dont mesh that will make itself known rather quickly. But pheromones can attract enough so you have a chance to show that personality. If the newb’s have a misconception they have gotten it somewhere else and not in this forum. There are hundreds of posts that explain that again and again by many people. While I dont mind repeating myself I do expect the new people to do at least a little reading.
I agree with this to but its my opinion that a persons naturally produced pheromones is a part of what gives them that charisma and vibe. Not all of it mind you but a part. Its why we can be attracted to someone who dosnt display a “pretty picture”
If pheromones are only good for after you meet and are attracted to a person then alot of us are wasting our money by spraying them on every morning. I dont think any of us are saying that they will make people who are not attracted to you change there mind. It will just make people who do find some character trait you have interesting more likely to act on it or peak an interest so you can have a better chance to display those traits. Getting to know a person is half the battle and pheromones can help with that.
I think physical attraction, intellectual attraction and pheromonal attraction all exist. You can work on your intellectual side as well as your personality to attract more people. You can work on your physical appearance as well. And you can enhance your pheromone signature but there each one small part of a larger picture.
I know what you mean to much none just makes me bitchy. Not sure if thats true of people who naturally produce alot. But there has been some people who I just dont like or annoy me without a good reason and maybe this has something to do with it.
Tisha
I don’t doubt pheromones are an important component in human attraction. However, it is merely a component of a complex series of characteristics, events and interactions leading to attraction. Nevertheless, I’ve developed the initial stages of attraction many times in correspondence, e.g., email, IM, telephone and pictures. However it happens most frequently while viewing a performer from afar (concert stage). Listening to her perform is an emotionally intimate experience and yet no way pheromones are involved in initiating said attraction.
Everyone is different. However I find physical attraction, intellectual and emotional (musical) attraction are interconnected and overlapping. If I’m musically/emotionally attracted to a female performer, I’m often physically attracted as well. On the other hand, physical attraction is extremely short lived (about 5 minutes!) without a strong intellectual and emotional connection.
Well looks like we agree then Lke I said they are all just small parts of a big picture.
Tisha
To Tisha mainly but others (females only) can answer also. These questions are some of the most important I will ask to finalize a mix I am working on.
What type/s of mcgs of Androsterone you mean makes you feel willing?
Was it in a pre-made Mix like AMMO or Scent of Eros, etc?
How strong were the feelings it made you feel?
And state the type of feelings?
I hope I get non-A314 related answers since I want to see Rone by itself or maybe with nols.
1.and 2.
I have only been exposed to A314 and Instant Gentleman. I am not sure how much Androsterone is in them so I cant give anwsers on Androsterone alone or the exact amount.
My girlfriend bought some bottles for her husband for his job. She also gave some to the guy who uses pheromones at our work to try out and some to me for my hubby. She said her hub is getting good responses at 3 to 4 drops of A314. Guy at work is very alpha and hasnt noticed anything yet but I know when he is wearing it cause that feeling comes over me. I never asked him how much he had on. My husband dosnt like to wear any cologne or scents but he will indulge me so he used it a few times. no dropper in his bottle so he used 5 dabs. Now I am pretty much always willing around him LOL but 5 dabs seemed to intensify that feeling. I told my husband that these are scents that evoke responses in people though the sense of smell. But I didnt tell him they are pheromones. He thinks its more like aromatherapy. He wore some to work and just from talking about his day at dinner that night he did mention a few problem people there being a little more “human”. So if you can figure out how much Androsterone is in a drop then that will give you a clue how much to use in your mix.
The feeling is not overwhelming. It will not make me do anything that I know is not right for me. Its a feeling of willingness brought on by a sort of safe secure feeling. Kind of like trust or like feeling comfortable in letting the other person lead. On a sexual side its more slow safe and deep,( 
behave you know what I mean ) It feels like all night instead of wham bam. Now I felt this feeling mostly with husband wearing it. Around my friends husband I wasnt aroused at all. I am not attracted to my friends husband so that could be why. The guy at work is my BMF and it was a little arousing on him but not enough to make me forget I am married. So on a scale of 1 to 10 for “how strong are the feelings” with 10 being a total slut LOL (only kidding) I would say its a 3 or 4
Instant Gentleman is nice, its just gives the feeling of nice LOL. Its hard to explain. Its easy going, laid back more trusting then leading, reliable . Slightly sexual if the person is attracted to those quailties.
Sorry I couldnt help you more but like I said these are the only 2 Androsterone products I have been exposed to. I am sure there is someone around the forum that has used straight Androsterone so hopefully you will get the anwser your looking for. If not you will have to become the mad scientist and test it out yourself. Good Luck.
Tisha