Are phero's the answer?

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Hi Everyone

Of course it goes without saying that pheromones are very effective in influencing people and making life generally easier. Unfortunately life is a lot more complicated than that.

Sometimes (emotional) hardships in life are a way of making us the people we should be and if we avoid these times by taking pheromones - in the long term we will be worse off.

If you are using pheromones regularly - your personality is being influenced by the pheromone and you are not been your true self. God made you unique as an individual and success in life is not governed by how popular you are, how much sex you are having and how much money you earn. It is about being true to yourself, accepting who you are and not allowing outside pressures change who you are.

No matter what, there will always be troubles in our lives. The true winners in life will be the ones who have faith in God and live for him instead of selfishness and self-gratification that will eventually bring (eternal) death.

Question
What does it profit man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul?
Matthew 16:26

Anonymous answer
With all my heart I agree. At the end of all life is death. The man who gains the world and loses his soul, dies a wealthy man, but he does not benefit. All that he has goes to others. When John Paul Getty died, he died alone. His children hated him. He is reported to have whispered to the nurse “I am the loneliest man in the world”. Yet, I attended the funeral once of an ordinary housewife, whose love for Christ and for people led her to befriend people anywhere and everywhere, though her own personal life was very sad. The funeral was so big, someone asked me what important person it was who had died. Now, that is living.

The real solution in life is a true relationship with God and it starts by praying a sincere prayer for repentance.

Dear Lord God, I acknowledge you as my Lord and saviour. I repent and turn from going my own sinful way, and I acknowledge that you have the right to the reins of my life. I place my life back under your control where it should have been from day 1.
I acknowledge my sinfulness and self will and stuborness and I turn from these sins which come from my independant living. I acknowledge You as the One to whom I will come for direction for my life from this day on. I ask that the blood of your son, Jesus Christ, which was shed at Calvary, be applied to my sins and wash them away as far as the East is from the West. Let them be remebered no more.
Teach me your ways. Instruct me in the way that I should go. From this day on, I look to you as my Lord and Saviour. Thank you for the gift of eternal life - of life both now and in eternity. I worship you, Lord in Jesus’ name, Amen.

This prayer prayed from the heart, makes you a child of God and grants you eternal life in heaven. It also re-connects you to the river of God within your being, so that your life here on earth will become much more full and rewarding.

If you trust in yourself with or without pheromones you are on your own now and in eternity. If you humble yourself and pray to God he will lead you into all truth, freedom from sin and you will also be given an eternal inheritance.

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Sorry have to disagree here. I believe it is the OUTSIDE pressures that really shape who we are. See, people who live in tough countries, due to their poverty, they are forced to eat from junk. Why should they accept WHO THEY ARE? Shouldn’t they fight and do something about it?

IMO, those who let the outside pressure shape who they are, like Martin Luther King who did not ACCEPT WHO HE IS but STOOD up and change the world, are those that live their life to the fullest, and that - is what life is about.

But honestly why are you preaching us on this? Just like Style’s friend who tried to change him with religion - I don’t really give a fuck. I am who I am, I do what I want. Because life is the pursuit of happiness. You die, that’s it, no one really knows what happens to you after that so who gives a hoot on who comes and visit you at your funeral?

I’m so sick of hearing all these, especially people that preach and say: “Oh you don’t believe in god you go to hell” WTF? I don’t believe in god that’s my own belief, why do you have to curse me to hell? I don’t get it, seriously.

P.S: This will be my only post on this, I won’t reply to anything else regarding this topic. Thanks.

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Hey Mackie,

You know out of the people here when I started here you had some pretty good insights.

But the countless of people here who have had the help with pheromones to enhance their social skills and have helped them break out of their shell and really develop themselves have had great changes to their lives. I speak with guys and gals here who have that part of their life missing. Not to sound melodramatic but sometimes the darkest place you can being is not being able to interact with people. Being so shy sometimes and not knowing what to do makes people sad, and I think that it is one of the most depressing things anyone can go through.

The point of religion and God is love. To care for others and love others how you would want to be loved. Granted we don’t live in a perfect society, but ideally that’s what we all want. Pheromones like Instant Shine, Instant Openness and many others have made people better, have made them express themselves and be more likable.

Yes this forum is filled with stories of hookups and countless nights of debauchery, but it’s not all about the sex, fame, and money. There are many here that were once shy but have experienced the joy of being around people. If you look at the core message, these products do help in that regard, it doesn’t fundamentally change a person, it just helps push them along.

I strongly belief faith and religion has their place, but to come out and say that we aren’t who we are because of pheromones, well, it’s a flawed and closed minded view that I strongly dislike about organized Religion. Partly because of those views, the thought of absolute truth, is why wars, genocide, and many other atrocities happen. Different factions and different religions fight over it. To me, that’s a big hypocrisy of people. Give them some Instant Honesty and some Instant Shine, maybe they will get off their high horses and look at the world how it really is. It’s not because of the religion, but the people interpreting them. It’s thought processes like that which make the world more of a cruel place. Remember that tolerance and forgiveness are some of the values taught, not the other way around.

I respect you as a person, but strongly disagree with your opinion on this one and I hope you don’t view this as an attack on you. From what I’ve read from you you’re a genuine good person, and I don’t want it to seem like I’m trashing you.

Respectfully

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The question is “who are you truly?”. I have always been of the opinion that who you are is a combination of your total sum of experiences and how you respond to them, but also you’re innermost desires.
IE if you WANT to be a strong commanding alpha male type, then there is a part of that within you being held back by circumstance and limiting beliefs.

Putting on A314 is no more being false then putting on a fancy suit. It can be you during the appropriate times. Humans are not so one dimensional. It’s like comparing a 2D drawing of a diamond, vs an actual diamond. At any given time you can only see one side of a three dimensional object…does that mean if you turn it and view the other side that it’s not the same object?

We show different facets at different times. I can be a very serious alpha at work, yet a playful mischievous flirt in a club. Both are me, both or either can be enhanced by the mones, and help to create the me I want to be. I don’t see it as being false. If the pheromones create an alpha vibe that people respond to, the experience of being treated as an alpha is one more brick in building the me I aspire to. If I act appropriately and congruent with that my behavior as well shapes who I am and who I am becoming.

I think a good analogy would be to view it as a sculptor. Experiences given to you by the world, coupled with your initiated actions provide and shape the clay, but as with anything you plan on creating, you should have a view in your mind of what you want the finished product to look like. If you want to be a certain type of person, and make a conscious effort to become that person, it’s as much if not more true to yourself and your nature than going through life rudderless and REacting to things instinctively and often times counter productively.

Now I do agree, that using mones as a crutch or worse yet as a panacea of all ills is dangerous and likely not even going to work. I worry when I read posts about people wanting to know what mones to use to cure the depression or anxiety of a loved one or even themselves.

But human beings are shaped. If you’re to TRULY be your natural self then you would not speak English. As this form of communication is artificial and was imposed upon you by external forces. Clothing, social mores and norms, grooming etc. All external things.
However once we achieve consciousness and a degree of genuine self awareness we can then begin to choose what external factors we allow to effect and influence us, We can choose how we act in response to them.
I read once that life is not about finding yourself, but rather about creating yourself.
To a degree this is true, but you do have to do some finding in order to know what you want to create.
IOW you can’t create the person you want to be until you know what that person is and that comes from accumulating as much experience as possible.

I actually think my own religious and spiritual beliefs today are stronger and more solid from the experience of having a crisis of faith and going through a period of religious experimentation.

…sorry, seems I ran off on a tangent that might have only half touched on the original post.

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I try to be as true to myself as I can possibly can while wearing mones. Theres many barriers within myself that stop me from having fruitful interaction with others so only the most patient people with keen observation are able to find some value with me as a person.

My personality is the most grey of the many I’ve encountered from others. To me personally people are either very good with interpersonal relationships and general socialibility or are the more work oriented ambitious kind. I know you can be both but I’m so far in the middle that I’m neither good with people nor very goal oriented.

I have a strong belief that your parents make up a good deal of your personality and unfortunately for me I didn’t obtain the work oriented groundedness of my mother nor the natural charisma of my father. Being the very sensitive person I am combined with a really muddled personality has shown me that I either use pheromones aid me in shaping up or remain disconnected from society.

Tacitus wrote a post a while ago about how some people really dont know how to adjust to their environments and feel lost in it themselves. I’m one of those types and even though I’m not the most illustrious or knowledgeable person this forum I feel so much more at home on here because I’ve always communicated my own views and feelings better through writing than I ever will vocally. I’m not saying I have a speech impediment or I cant be eloquent at times but when I speak to people its like me trying to translate the Bible to English. I get the very rough idea out there but the undertones that make the whole scripture truly sing get lost in translation.

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What about people with mental health issues? Should they forgoe medication because God created them that way and they should be true to him/her.

What if God made me a money hungry nympho?

A tad bit judgemental don’t you think? I knew an aetheist who spent the majority of his time working for different charities.

Mods:This post should be moved to the lounge.

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Rather than get really into this, I’ll just say: A) “God” also created pheromones. B) they change lives for the better. C) I trust in myself alright. I forge my own path and do my own work for what I want. I refuse to kneel and beg for help.

I reject your reality, and substitute my own.
My fate is in my own hands, and I will do whatever is necessary to get what I want. Is that selfish? NO! Because what I want isn’t necessarily for myself :wink:

I have the control, aside from the obvious things that are out of control (see the dinosaurs).

I live by my own principals and philosophies that tell me what is right and wrong. If I’m unsure, I don’t kneel and beg “God” to lead events in the world the right way. I ask myself, and I answer.

I do what is right, because it is right.
I do what needs to be done, because it needs to be done.

If “God” exists, and is wise and true, he’ll lead events the right way without my begging.

To be honest, in a roundabout way, giving control to god is a feeble attempt by man to gain complete power. “We can’t stop the plague, so lets give the power to God and tell him to do it.” Give up control to gain control.

On the other side of it, it’s like P51Mustang said. Religion (normally) makes people better, because it makes them care for one another. (It takes advantage of the fact we all want this) - but it makes it a reality.

Edit and P.S.: My signature reads:
You have one life to live. Astrology teaches us to blame the universe for our frailties. Marx teaches us to blame society, and Freud teaches us to blame our parents. But the only place to look for blame is if you didn’t have the guts to bring your full self, if you didn’t act on your desires, if you didn’t take advantage of what was in front of you and live the life that was your potential.

~Joseph Campbell

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phero is not answer to everything. It is mainly used to INCREASED attraction for me :smiley:

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There is no single answer, but many answers that combine to create the uniqueness of you. The problem is, most of us are still trying to figure out what the damn question is…