Ok we talk about phermones, lets talk more about game.
I had a chance to read Rules of the Game by Neil Strauss.. Although I found it very socially dynamic (and women do like guys who talk to them), I found being too talkative kills mystery more than anything else. I find his approach of conversation hooks, story telling etc makes great for developing rapport but not necessary seduction. There’s just too much sensitivity.. he’s so cautious even how he goes about getting a first kiss let alone sex. I feel because he was a nerd and only 5’6" (he claims all this) his approach is rather tame. Furthermore, most of the openers are rather ridiculous (cat dog opener), Blood type story etc … I can understand learning some basic conversation and appearance skills from his book. But you got to watch out for conversation. Just conversing with a woman may build a lot of gab but not necessary attraction.. Story telling could screw you up.. What if a story turns a woman off.. She may not like you at all. No wonder he has to date so many women before he gets laid.
Then there’s speed seduction.. Ok this one is a little better in the fact that you are working on seducing, sex, and fascination etc.. Problem is its all talk.. Doesn’t Ross Jeffries listen at all? If you talk in paragraphs to women you will often be interrupted… I myself talk in short sentences… memorizing canned routines can be good if your woman is the type who doesn’t like to talk much but most women like a man who listens too.. Furthermore, I found Ross Jeffries to gung ho in his approach. he believes success comes from chasing women and doing it in high numbers. He doesn’t take the time to tolerate any resistance. If a woman doesn’t respond he simply gives up and moves to another… We all know women we’re attracted to, why move on so fast.. Isn’t there a method to not give up so easily? i understand at some point no is no but as a man you’ve got to treat women as more than just a telephone booth even if you’re going to just be casual.
Finally I picked up a product many of you may of not heard about.. its called Pandora’s Box… I felt cheated by this product. It does claim incredible things like learning all the 8 types of women and modifying your approach to each one in order to score but the author is deceitful in many ways.. For example in his website he says learn the 3 questions scientists use to find out everything about a womans type. You as a customer think he going to give you these three questions and you would just approach women asking them this to learn more about your subsequent approach but this is not the case. Furthermore, he claims to teach you how to use 30 keywords that make women horny on a subconscious level. This may work but what I found was that they were not found on the program when I bought it… I quickly asked for my refund. the program was developed by a PHD and I think its very well organized and theoretical but its not practical at all.. Both Jeffries and Strauss are better.
Finally there’s Mystery. His success is mostly in clubs so I didn’t bother with him.. I need something that will work EVERYWHERE. Lunch, dinner, sport bars, etc etc
Well folks what are your thoughts? Do you have any products you recommend that I haven’t listed?
My goals are to get seduction out of women and not make them my friends. I also speak in short sentences, am fairly mysterious, and like to get women chasing me so I don’t have to do all the work. At times I can be romantic, I am also in pretty decent shape although I could lose 5-10 lbs. I use IS /AMMO and chase women in 20-30 year range.
Not looking for serious relationship nor to make women believe I want to marry them. Looking more for fun , excitement, romance, lust etc etc I have decent looks, money, car, etc but little game.
This thread is about game… Any other takers on products that are awesome that I haven’t looked into? 