I need a mix that would get me ONS or short flings… I hear again through the “grapevine” that they are looking for something more… wth? It was 3x ammo + 1x IS + 12.5mcg p74… jeez, I just want SEX with no strings attached… lol
Seriously, gotta break out MX353?
Any other ONS mixes? would MX301 do the trick? Get rid of anything -rone?
Well just go as you would normally with your chick magnet mix. Then spray the sexual ones on when you feel it is going in that direction, give her a fake number, possibly even a fake name. Then when you have done the deed, tell her you’ll be in touch and never talk to her again. But I’m guessing regarding cougars you won’t have to go through all that as that’s usually what they want with a young guy.
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I dont think any one mix can protect you against that. Pheromones dont change a persons will or preferences so even though they attract and give certain vibes they wont suddenly change a persons values.
You just gotta be upfront and tell them where your coming from. You may get alot of no thanks responses but I am sure there are some women who want the same thing. Remember when they say no thanks its not a rejection of you. They just want something different then you want.
Even in this day and age where women are more open sexually they still have that instinct ingrained in them to partner with a male. . Personally I think its a instinct we are born with just like males are born with the instinct to procreate.
It seems to me there is a few generations where all instinct was throw out the window starting with feminism and free love in the 60’s through the 70’s and early 80’s but statistics are now showing girls slowly going back to looking for that one partner and being choosy about who they have sex with. They say this is due to the fact that there parents came from the free love generation and they are trying to correct the mistakes of those previous generations.
I agree though that rone will strengthen that desire to pair bond more then something like none would though. Not using it just is not a guarantee they wont want to spend eternity with you. Hey look at it as a compliment if your hearing through the grapevine your a good catch. That doesn’t mean you have to be caught 
Wow, That is so cold. I am going to bite my tongue on this one but just remember karma. What you put out into the world comes back to you. Its the law of the universe and can not be avoided.
Tisha
I wouldn’t normally reply to this but yeah high enone mixes. I suggest getting EoW if you haven’t already. Some Ammo/IJ laced with EoW will get the job done. Add a good 20-30 mcgs of P83 with that and work that charm and kino 
MX353 is a great idea. I can see how Steve was shooting for the post coital vibe with MX301. Just knock up the MX301 with TUTH and some A-1 to make her feel like she should do it with you again even though it will be the first time. Theres many ways you can go about it though. Leave the P74 at home if this is what your shooting for though.
P74 would make girls want more? I seem to get less blatant hits with it though than ammo alone or ammo + IS. I should caught down on its dosage. Why does everyone here seems to get easy short flings but no LTR desire from girls? I don’t know what I do that want girls to think long-term, but I think I got to step up my game -haha. Also, I don’t go for “slutty” girls, who sleeps around with a lot of guys, so that could be it too.
Wow, that’s the nicest way of saying “born horny as hell” I’ve ever read. Need to remember that one…
Gotta agree there. What with Google, Facebook and all the other fun social apps out there, you could easily be busted as a “user”. “Players” are fun, kind of a naughty temptation, but “users” end up being avoided like the plague once they’re found out.
Not sure what to tell you on the pheromone end, but be honest in what you’re looking for. Otherwise you may end up with slashed tires or worse…
IJ 5ml with one drop of EOW and 30 mcgs of p86 with 50 mcgs of p74 and 10 mcgs of p79 to make them take action.
And then go out for the kill.
I got my first and only ONS using MX301. 3 sprays, nothing else. I pretty much did nothing to initiate it either.
I don’t get why everyone wants a ONS. I felt kinda shitty about it the next day.
A month ago i had a ONS using MX297 3 sprays and p74 50 mcgs and then at the right time adding 5cgs of TUTH.
For me, It’s not so much the ONS stand itself that I like, it’s the chase and conquer feel I get grrrrr 
. But the feeling shitty about it the next day, Ive had in the past too, It always felt like guilt, which I think is a product my type of religious upbringing. But that’s just me.
I feel shitty if I lied to her in any-way-no-matter-how-subtle, to get the ONS, but If i was completely upfront about it, said exactly what I wanted and expected and still got the ONS I felt great!! Like I was doing her and myself a service 
Just easin the tension baby…just easin the tension
I don’t get how somebody can want a one night stand and have a negative perception of the type of woman he’s most likely to get it from.
I’ve never cared for ONS, I’ve always preferred Friends With Benefits. Takes a mature and open-minded, honest person to really pull it off, though.
I’ve only had a couple of ONS, didn’t really have the “guilt” feeling but then again I never lied about my intentions. Just really didn’t feel like it was up to the hype. Leave the options open.
BUT, keep in mind, women do the exact same thing. They aren’t as blatant about it and don’t fill up forums bragging about the “stud” they did last night, but women do go out hunting ONS. Not all women, so don’t crucify me, but then again not all men do either.
And I’m very familiar with the unfair comparison between “stud” and “slut”. Casual sex does have it’s place, and I’ve never much cared for labels. It all boils down to morals, in my mind.
Women are born with special antennae that are constantly checking for LTR potential… not that they expect it in every case, however it will be a subtext…
Trew Story: a going on middle aged woman I know is in a job that lets her be very close, physically and conversationally with a lot of upper-middle grade movie and television actors… sort of the B+ to A- crowd… she’s obsessed with physical appearance and celebrity, and married to a dork… she’s definitely attractive if well past her cute girly phase although beginning to radiate more than her share of strange needful vibrations… she seems to have an intensely visual imagination… people who look right must be wonderful, superior, advanced beings who will bring her true love in her fantasy world, not that they might be narcissistic, shallow, not too profound beings in reality… she’s always harping on how wrong it is for people to have affairs while she, naturally, has had multiple affairs with her B+ hunks and lurches from one disappointment to another… and now her husband divorced her and she’s frantic that she’ll grow old alone and unwanted.. no kids to tie her down so she should be free to do what she wants… the problem is that she thinks that she’s very selective and only the right camera ready gentleman will meet her standards… she’s all visual, she lives in airbrushed mental movies, and she’s not auditory, she’s not listening to their ideas, not evaluating their thought processes, depth of being, quality of intellect, and for the life of her she can’t figure out why she goes from jerk to jerk… assuming that if the packaging is lovely, so should the relationship be… silly woman… and the hilarious thing is that she thinks that I am after her and that makes her nervous… if she only had the faintest idea what people are doing with their lives while she pines for her golden boy…
I guess I was expecting too much. To come to think of it, I could have had ONS with some girls, but they were not my type. Plus, they slept with so many guys, I was worried about venereal diseases - rightfully so… Very classy, refined, educated, conservative yet lovely (esp gorgeous face) is my type of girl. On top of that, be ONLY slutty with me and give it to me whenever, haha… additionally, let me decide where the relationship will go… i guess I need some reality check
I don’t think you were at all. In terms of relationships, women want two things. Security and the ‘means’ to produce young who are fit, healthy and who possess the qualities to then continue to have children themselves. The ‘means’ being far more subconscious. Women are very rarely in a relationship where they have both of those things.
For example, if a woman cheats on her partner (I’m not insinuating that you want to be with women who cheats) with a young Alpha guy like your good self, you can almost gaurentee that her partner provides very good security with a decent job and a nice place. But that’s it. He probably doesn’t fulfill the reproduction aspect for many assumable reasons.
If you manage to break down the first barrier of security by either making her believe you fulfill it or making her forget about it, then it shouldn’t be too difficult, with a little help from mones of course, to lead her to tick the box for wanting to have sex with you.
ONS’s are far from off the books for you my friend.
He’s not saying ONS’s are expecting too much, he’s saying that wanting a one night stand…but not liking slutty girls is a bit much and for all practical purposes it is.
What he wants is to perform an act with a woman, while the act itself would define the woman as the type he doesn’t like. It’s deep social conditioning that a lot of men have from years of chasing women wanting them to give us sex and then basically punishing them for giving us what we wanted in the first place by attaching the “slut” label to the behavior.
(for the record I often call women sluts during intense moments leading up to or during the act but I also clarify that I don’t hold the same negative connotations to the word that most people do…as a result I often have women informing that they are “my slut” or asking me to tell them that they’re my slut)
Frankly the only type of judgments I make regarding sexual behavior is this.
If the woman engages in sex because she legitimately enjoys it and feels even momentary attraction for the male…that’s a sexually empowered woman. An awesome slut that I’d love to meet.
If the woman GIVES sex as a means to gain acceptance, approval or attention from men…for whatever reason, then this is probably a very sad and troubled woman that should likely seek help.
Now what you describe is very much based on theories put forth in books like Sperm Wars and Red Queen where males are very simply divided into the categories of wandering sperm donor and cuckolded provider males. There are instincts to this end, and they do in fact occur from time to time but the conditioning of social norms and mores is so strong that it’s not enough of a norm that it can be counted on. The way it’s worded your post almost implies that every married man in the civilized world is raising children his wife conceived with some hairy muscular young stud and that’s just not the case.
Now if you want a woman to have sex with you within 24 hours of meeting you AND have NO expectations of ANYTHING further beyond or after that, then you have to accept that the type of women you’ll be dealing with will be…the type of women that will have sex with a man they just met and have no concern about further emotional investment.
If you can resolve that conflict then the main thing to do is to shift your game to place an emphasis on your value from the standpoint of being a source of sexual satisfaction for her, and some genetic value (even if she consciously has no interest in having kids the instinct to be attracted to genetic fitness is still there)
Look into Vin Dicarlos “Objection Game”. This is key for making sure that any woman feels secure that a one time encounter with you will not turn into something she’ll regret.
The second aspect to address is placing an emphasis on your value in a sexual context. This means the “Preselection” value switch should be hit upon a little more often than the others. Have a wingman buddy walk up while you’re engaged with the girl and ask if you’ve seen (insert female name here). Say you haven’t and let him move along, if she asks who he was asking about (IOI) simply dismiss it as some girl you know…nothing more. (You want to create curiosity, preselection and support the “I won’t kiss and tell” aspect of the objection game). If you have a female pivot that can be extremely helpful. An attractive woman walking up and giving you a hug/kiss on the cheek and then asking about the woman you’re talking to also creates a vibe of preselection/intrigue…NEVER CONFIRM HAVING FUCKED ANYONE. Imagine spending the whole night half heartedly/jokingly trying to convince a woman you’re practically a virgin while hitting her with strong evidence that suggests you’re quite the opposite. From this she gathers you’re a sexually successful male (for which there must be a reason) and that you’re not the type of guy that will brag about having sex with her once it occurs…at the same time.
Any other attraction switches you try to flip via story telling should, if possible, include descriptions of fitness…IE if you want to flip the “leader of men” attraction switch, then captain of the school chess team…no…captain of the football team?..good.
As for mones, Instant Jerk should be good, but may be too strong. If so try a few sprays of Ammo. In either case the product should be spiked with EOW. You WANT to radiate the vibe of a man that gets his. Enhance with heavy Shine and IO. Avoid Bnol as it might make things too serious or “we have a connection” driven for your particular goals.
Not trying to hijack this thread, but I’ve seen “EOW” several times now as a “buffer” product. What is EOW?
The search engine here doesn’t seem to be working very well.
essence of woman: synthetic female copulins to give off the aura/vibe of a guy that gets laid…a lot
Don’t forget The Selfish Gene as well!
Unfortunately, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I would say it’s the other way around in terms of human instincts and wants versus social conditioning. Of course, we all are conditioned in a certain way, some more than others according to impressionability.
For example, in countries with very strict Sharia law and with hardly any conditioning from the Western world women cheat on men, homosexual sex occurs and businessmen move to any country where banks and business aren’t regulated by Muslim law. The interesting thing is that they didn’t know any other way. I.E, they were conditioned not to do these things. But still, the woman cheated, the gay couple had sex and the businessman moved to another country to accumulate more wealth. These people were all being conditioned in a certain way according to their society and their laws. But, they still go with their human instincts of self interest.
Also, I didn’t mean to imply to every married man with children is physically attractive. Nothing is black and white. But, I could almost gaurentee that a woman is more likely to cheat on her husband if he provides security as oppose to if he is very attractive according to her values. She has her wealth from which society conditioned her to believe was necessary. But her human instincts take over a she wants to have sex with a man whom she believes is virile and will provide the best sperm. Also, the fact that she’s probably wearing a condom has nothing to do with the actual act she is performing. The woman that do this, the ones the have sex regardless regardless of the man’s security and emotional input; those are the empowered women. For they are following their primal sexual desires, rather than what society tells them to be a ‘good guy.’
Just a theory of course, as with most debates on this board. It’s more mathematically likely that you are correct due to age and experience, but I’m very stubborn sometimes and like to fight my corner
Don’t forget people (including men in this) that cheat even on gorgeous spouses because they’re “bored”. I’ve known several men and women that cheated just because they wanted that extra excitement of doing something bad.
This is why I don’t want to pick up girls from TEXAS, lol