Maybe you THINK TOO MUCH, Pete.
Practice TishaPoo’s advice, and the next time she tells someone you’re gay, “YOU KEEP TELLING PEOPLE I’M GAY. WHY?” Or ask her the next time you see her.
And you still have to act the part with A314, in which I have a funny feeling, you have not been playing the part.
Hang in there.
How long did you test a314? Please tell me you tested for your sweet spot for at least 2 weeks with a314?
I tested A314 for way to long before I realized it has its limitations when you’re on the bottom of the social totem pole. It does work - I got called “Sir” a hell of a lot more often in public by strangers and my direct peers, but the entrenched social hierarchy of a medical college/hospital is just something it can’t counter. Using a314 to work your way up a social ladder is like trying to ice skate up a hill. IMHO you’re better off climbing up that hill the old fashioned way.
As for M&M’s advice, this is a workplace and I do need to keep my job for the moment. Confronting her might get her fired and eventually end badly for me and everyone involved since it could be construed as creating a hostile workplace by the wrong persons (gays/LGBT or whatever - sorry if I’m not being PC on this), a sexual harassment/hostile workplace investigation is not something I want to deal with. And that’s not to mention all the ignored fraternization that would be dragged out from under the rug when it became a “he said, she said” issue when management inevitably gets involved. Hell no thank you on the public confrontation thing. No way am I doing that or anything resembling it, and I’m even more confused by her behavior tonight.
We didn’t work directly together, I saw her for only a moment at the beginning of the night and (politely, maybe a little stiffly) said hello, but there were two later instances that were odd. I interacted with the “new hire” for a few moments while passing through Astrophysics babes work area, and she took the time to observe us when she heard us together. She poked her head out from an office (we were in a nearby hallway), looked at us as if she were really annoyed, and then went back to whatever she was doing. I got the impression she didn’t want to be seen by the new hire, but that could just be my imagination. In the second instance I was called over to her department by her superior for a consultation, and I couldn’t hide my surprise at seeing her in their office. They exchanged an odd “knowing look” and she made a coy kind of smile when I did a double take. I don’t know what that was all about, but it would have felt odd even if I had not overheard her last night. I had a very positive interaction with another woman who is at least as attractive as her tonight (I asked out a married woman who wasn’t wearing her wedding ring - as many nurses do - and she was very, very happy but declined…) and the more I think of the ease and comfort of that experience the less amusing this whole situation becomes in my mind. Why the fuck should I go through this crap with her when it’d be so much easier to just focus on someone else?
Well obviously the first answer to your issue would be to ignore her and find someone else since she currently has power over you. Like I said you are suffering from oneitis. In my PUA days I would have told you to go screw as many chicks as you could until you forgot the other girls name. I am not advocating that now.
This chick is in your head bro. That’s an awful place for her to be. You definitely can’t act this out in the work place. Hence my suggestion that you minimalize your social interaction with her while at work. If she wants to hang out and talk with you, then you say something like “Hey I’m going to (choose some place) after work why don’t we pick this up then.” You need to take her into your world.
I’m sure this sucks, so I’m not trying to make light of it, although it is a little funny. 
You’re wearing masculine pheromomes and you somehow come off as gay. Exactly how long did you wear a314 and what was the max number of drops that you used? What were the self effects? I know there are obstacles that you may have in your work place that automatically shine the wrong light on you, but I am a firm believer that a314 can help you get past that. It always takes longer with people that know you or have a preconceived notion of you. You may have to get a different haircut or something to show a physical change so that they begin to pay attention to your pheromone change.
I still recommend A314 and AMMO. So what are your sweet spots for both? What revision of a314 do you have?
Dude, you’re right - it is funny, but it’s irritating, too and makes it difficult for me to be professional around her. I can laugh about it but it’s one of those head-shaking, forehead slapping laughs - it’s not purely humorous. It also makes me realize why gay guys don’t always just come out of the closet in this supposedly accepting, liberal day and age – there’s no way in hell they can have normal relationships with people like her around.
Anywho…
I wore a314 (original) a looooong ass time ago, 1-3 drops daily for awhile, and haven’t received my recent order of ammo (etc) yet. I’m actually delaying going in for the day until I receive my package, just to see how it affects her. I really don’t have any interest in using a314 again because I went through several bottles and never saw any benefit from it. (It does do something, but I’d have to go through all of my threads to compile that info) Anyhow, Ammo seems to affect her strongly so it is worth giving up a few hours of overtime in order to wait for my order to arrive.
I am more than a bit unusually wrapped up in her for several reasons - #1 is because I’ve always had a thing for Winona Ryder - moreso than anyone else. (There’s another Winona Ryder look alike at the hospital, and we have good chemistry, but she’s 20 and I’m 40.) Second, I haven’t had any difficulty with other women I’ve been interested in, also because this is just plain confounding/insulting but I don’t want to escalate it to some kind of management/personnel/administrative issue so I’m flying without a parachute here and I’m not sure if pursuing her if a thrill as much as she is a thorn in my side. I also can’t avoid her 100% of the time. Again, there are hotter chicks and there is another Winona-Ryder lookalike walking around, so I’m really not sure why I’ve got oneitis so bad. I’m tempted to just pursue the younger Winona to get that urge out of my system ASAP.
I guess this computer thing causes us to explain, so I will. I didn’t say anything about a confrontation. IF SHE’S PUBLICLY telling people you’re gay, you should PUBLICLY ask her why she’s saying that at the time of her saying it, is what I meant, TP. And if any harassment is going on, it’s from her telling people you’re gay, when you’re not.
Just wearing A314 won’t cut it. You’re gonna have to change your mind set, is my GUESS.
I hate to say this, but START IGNORING the witch! 
She’s got you. She knows it. And sad to say, so do you.
Man up! Stand up!
Good luck; and I’ll be watching you! 
Goddammit I wasted a day waiting for delivery of my latest order and fedex marked it as a “delivery exception” while I was in the shower. Dammit I lost a lot of money waiting for this thing!
There is no manning up here unless I’m missing something - any conversation like that in public could be construed as a confrontation and I don’t want to participate in what would have to be a formal managerial follow up to it. Yes, I understand and meant that I’m on the receiving end of the “harassment”. I don’t want to turn this nuisance into a circus. And she’s unavoidable as far as my workplace goes. I can avoid her for the most part but have to interact with her at least for a few minutes every once in awhile.
Well, cut out all the smiling cause she looks at you, no conversation that’s not work related, and don’t stand around her hoping she says something about work so you can talk to her.
And it’s been a circus for TWO YEARS, IF … you asked me.
Sigh… I think M&M is of the opinion that she knows her game and is playing it well. I’m still on the fence about her thinking you are gay.
Honestly though after 2 years, I would be bored. Is it just her looks? I mean in 20 years it’s alll going to sag anyway. Are you trying to marry her? Because if not, why all the trouble? Her opinion doesn’t matter that much anyway.
Totally agree with this. No need to be indirect. Maybe she’s marking her territory so she can get you all to herself!!!
Marking her territory!? 
It’s been TWO YEARS, E. The territory is MARKED!
Hang in there, TP! In case you think ME out of the box, I’m pulling for you! Seriously!
Here’s what you do…never ask her out again!! If she’s interested let her come to you. From what I read it looks like she knows she has you riding her coat tails and you’ll come running like a horny mutt whenever she calls. Reach down and grab a pair. It’s been 2 years, you need to stop chasing this silly ass. If she does indeed fancy ya she’ll put in the effort. If not move on mate OR go talk to her and say " funny I would have totally put the moves on you a long time ago if you weren’t a lesbian" You can take it from there young Padawan.
I’m going to run with that, plus there’s other crazy shit going on with her (and a few of her friends) that I wasn’t aware of until yesterday. I’m staying the hell away.
IF you can pull that off after two years of being on her leash, good for you.
If it’s not work related … a smile, a ‘HELLO,’ and NO CONVERSATION, and that’s ONLY if by chance, your paths cross.
Remember … it’s only MY THOUGHT on the situation, 'cause I’ve been wrong before.
THINK BETTER! FEEL BETTER! DO BETTER!
That would be a hilarious line to use on her. But honestly man, it sounds like you’ve gotten completely out of rhythm over this, and need to get yourself back on track. You need to step back and think about if you’re being the kind of man she would want to date.
You really think a beautiful, intelligent, idk what her job is I’m assuming doctor, wants a guy who skips work to get a bottle of spray-on pheremones? If she makes more money than you, that’s not the biggest issue in the world. But it sounds like she’s a really motivated women, and if you skip work and/or don’t work very hard when you’re there, she’s gonna see that as a character flaw.
You also mentioned other women at the hospital several times. So step back form the situation and objectively ask yourself, “Am I the guy at the hospital who hits on every women I work with?” Because if you are, that’s something that will get back to her, and make you look bad. Maybe she honestly likes you, but if you’ve been shot down by 5 nurses, she’s gonna feel conflicted about being the one who says yes to you.
My advice, similar to a lot of other people’s is to back off of her for a while. You work with her, so she’s not going anywhere. Also, DO NOT let any other women in the hospital turn you down. If you can start dating one of them, it would be a good idea, but if not, start meeting women outside of your workplace. And just make yourself more important than this woman for a while. Go to the gym, pursue your hobbies, try to get a promotion at work or a better job somewhere else. Whatever you do, just stop hanging on her every move.
Based on what I’ve read in this thread, it seems like you’ve put this women out of your league. Lets say that when you two met, you were both in AAA. Well over the course of the last two years, she didn’t get called up to the majors, you got dropped to AA. SO if I were you, I’d take some time to get myself back on track.
I swear you should just go ahead and PUNCH HER!.. MENTALLY!
Dictionary.com definition of Punching someone mentally
“The process that takes place where you date a girl outside work and let her visit where you work to show other girls you are not gay” 
Follow up: Astrophysics Girl is the devil. But I just recently started dating a much, MUCH younger, grounded, unbelievably-sweeter and cuter Brunette, most amazing body I’ve ever seen anywhere, already discussed marriage/ future plans… I’m totally, hopelessly smitten. She reacts negatively to TUTH, likes Ammo, gets weird/negative when I experiment with P79/75 and seems to respond best to just Dial Magnetic (Red bottle). This girl is a genuine “head turner” and I have serious issues with the way other men react to her. I may just start using Dial Magnetic and whatever cologne she likes (…and spending more time in the Gym. I’m apparently not intimidating enough to these guys…)
I’m 44 years old and have dated much younger women than myself, and all have been quite hot and that’s no exaggeration. My point? Get used to dealing with the guy situation. It can suck at times, but its gonna happen.
I recall one night when Steeler Girl and I went on our first real date out. We were coming out of a Piano Bar when some guys drove by and one yelled out…“goddamn!” She asked me my toughts and I told her. “I’m taking you home tonight and they’re yelling out car windows at chicks, how’s that working for them?”
I honestly don’t mind guys staring or even making cat calls etc. What I do have issue with is when guys take it too far and know you’re with the woman and still try to game her. Me and Country Girl went down to watch these guys play on the strip. It was the 2nd time that week, they are a cheesy lounge band made up of two guys who won’t make it much further than singing at a side walk venue. One is the same age as me, and the other in his 50’s. Anyway, the one guy same age as me during the middle of his song actually looked at my girl and ad libbed it into the song, “You’re looking so fine in those tight jeans tonight.”
Okay, that was somewhat out of line, but like I said I’m used to it. But then as we are packing up to leave she’s on the phone texting and he walks up and goes all Captain Save a HO and asks her…“are you all right?” As if something bad has occured between us two. She’s not paying him a bit of attention and just nods her head yeah and keeps texting.
I’m adjusting the chairs back to normal and then he grabs her hand and says, “We’ll be playing again Saturday.”
The guy puts me into the position of looking bad either way. If I step up and say something I look like a jealous little bitch, when it has nothing to do with jealousy, but respect. This guy’s out of line working on the lady I’m with right in front of me. She and I have an understanding. When we are out together, we are TOGETHER. We come together, we go home together. If out by ourselves and we get a number, all is fair in love and war. Now, if I don’t respond, then I have to worry about looking like a little bitch possibly in front of her, and / or him.
These are the pitfalls of dating hot women…sux but I guess in the end its worth it.
Well said my man! If you show jealousy u’re showing insecurity hehe… let them do their stuff and sit back and relax because if she knows what she has, she won’t do u wrong