Pheromones WORK! But the Dilemmas they Cause....

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Back in September, I told you guys the story about the girl I really liked, and was wearing Ammo and IO. This worked like a charm with her, she ate right out of my hand. Then, my IO ran out, so I used Ammo and IH, and she told me she needed some space.

I continued to wear Ammo and IH, thinking that I was a relationship type of guy.

One girl that I told you about basically ATTACKED me. Gorgeous, but my friend REALLY likes her, and I couldn’t do that to my bro, so I denied her.

She and I still hang out a lot. She never tried anything with me, but she’s very handsy, always jumping on me, always touching me, and we fell asleep together a few times, but nothing too too sexual.

My IH ran out, so I only have AMMO, and I use this sparingly. I hang out w/ the hot girl, and she still puts her hands on me, and I tell her how much of a bitch her boyfriend is, and then she tells me how she can’t stand him (yet, in his presence, she seems to not care). Now, I play the uninterested card, she says how she’s aware that ‘she can get any guy she wants, and if she were him, she’d hold on to her.’ And I said “Eh, I don’t know about that.”

Now I’m only wearing AMMO, and the DTF girls are on me. The one-night stand girls seem to happen at least weekly, but I don’t think that’s for me.

Needless to say, I want the girl with the boyfriend, but I don’t want a meaningless hook-up with her, however she seems to unstable for a relationship. I plan on transferring next year, and she’s very aware of this, and is upset about it. All the signs are there that she likes me, but it appears she likes many other guys as well, ALONG with her bitch boyfriend.

It doesn’t UPSET me that she has a boyfriend, but it frustrates me quite a bit. I could be the douchebag, hook up with her, and then possibly have her, her friends, and my friends hate me for it, but that’s not me. I could go without doing anything with her, but the sexual tension between us is IMMENSE. Whenever we talk, her friends always make comments like ‘OH MY GOD MARRY EACH OTHER ALREADY.’

At this point, I’m just playing the waiting game, see where it goes. But I think I have control over the situation.

Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated!! I think I need to buy some IO or some IH, but don’t know which…

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OK Bro, sounds like you have basic “hot guy” attraction established.
I’d order some to go bottles of IO, CTTM2 and IH…and maybe refresh your Ammo so you don’t run out.
Go with a base mix of
1 drop A314
2 sprays of Ammo (or whatever dose has worked for you in the past)
And 3 sprays each of IO until it runs out, then CTTM2 and finally IH
After about 2 weeks if BF girl isn’t changing her attitude about you much add another drop of A314.
The goal here is to maintain the “hot guy” vibe from the Ammo
Gradually increase your value as a “catch” with the A314.
And slowly go from the fun IO guy to the BF quality IH guy with CTTM2 as a transitional phase.
The A314 is key here though because she see’s you as a guy that might be a fun fling but she isn’t taking you seriously as a potential LTR You’re vibe may be either too sexual or too young feeling.
The IH could have been too soon, or creating an emotional connection before she considers you as having value in a relationship context.
I know a lot of women that can be very attracted to men sexually, even romantically and emotionally drawn to them…but they resist those feelings if they don’t feel he’s up to snuff in the area she needs as a serious relationship type of guy.

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Nuf said :slight_smile:.

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I’m gonna have to remember this since there is a girl I am going after, once I can re-establish contact, this is exactly what I need. Thanks Radman :slight_smile:

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I think in a very generic way you can view the Big Two (A314 and Ammo at least imo) in this way.

If you want to get A girl…Ammo alone is fine
If you want to get THE girl…You have to have A314

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nods especially since this particular girl is Latina. :smiley:

Sorry Lakerman, didn’t mean to hijack your thread.

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HAHA no problem…we all brothers.

I love the idea of A314, used to own some until airport security jacked it FROM MY SUITCASE! I would LOVE to buy all those pheros, but for me I found out less is more, and the pricetag isn’t exactly doable for a college student.

My girl is white as they get. She tells me about her past relationships, all which seem LDRs, and she said for one guy that she dumped him because he was ‘too perfect to be true.’ Not what I’m trying to be, but I feel like she gets that vibe from me.

Basically 4 guys are going after her that I know of right now. My friend, who gets mopey when he’s drunk because he USED to hook up with her, and she likes him, and she likes to hang out w/ him (he made her cry when he said he wanted her to stay away for a while), but I can’t see her being with a beta like that.

Her boyfriend, who IS a bitch, very quiet, very shy, and we flirt with his girlfriend in front of him, and he does NOTHING about it. As her roommate says ‘your boyfriend paints.’

And this black guy, who’s VERY chill VERY cool, and like me, she likes to hangout w/ him, but he’s playing very easy to get, while I have already denied her.

A314 intrigues me, always has, and I think it would work well as I advance in school (transferring to Haveraford College, then hoping to get into Yale Law), so I see it as an investment in myself.

I like the advice, BUT, I see her in my dormitory, in a non-party environment, so ALL those pheros I feel like are unnecessary.

I currently own Ammo, TUTH, Mystery Boy (seeing the girls she goes after JUST might work), and CTTM2. A314 and TO-GOs of IO, for starters?

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I’d be careful with a girl like that.. she sounds like she might have some issues and its weird that she calls her own BF a bitch. But what you want to order looks fine. Give it a shot and see what happens.

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Well, even though I haven’t reported enough on A314, I would say that should be a definite in your arsenal, especially since you’re competing against other blokes. Seriously, her bf really is a wuss. If I saw a guy blatantly hitting on my girlfriend, sitting around and letting them continue would be the LAST thing I would think of doing. I say go for the alpha vibe, if she responds well to it.

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I gotta back up RADMAN to emphasize to power of A314. I dated a girl that was in college just like that. She was very overt and dated a lot of guys and I was cool with that. When I dropped the aplha vibe on her, she was exclusive after I pulled the trigger. She was even buying me gifts and accomodating to me. If she is already in to you; but knows there are other guys out there vying for her attention, A314 can elevate your status and her perception of you. Tou don’t have to wear everything that RADMAN suggested; but, definitely give the budget a second look and really consider A314.

You sound like you already have a handle on the situation for sure; but with you transferring, you have a few other things to consider with this girl too.

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Yeah, I’m in a younger environment myself (high school), so I’ve sort of refrained from going with A314. I don’t know, it seems like it’d be a little too serious. Instant Gentleman, though, holds many similar qualities to A314, it’s just not as heavy.

And yes. It DOES make the girls start looking at you as more of a potential boyfriend. In my limited experience so far, I get the idea that they might be thinking of me the way they might think of heartthrobs they see on movies and TV. Not bad at all, if you’ve got the game and wit to back it up :wink:

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but what about the new to go sprays A and B of a314?

A is like 28 bucks and B is like 20 bucks.

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Not to derail this too much…but where did you get the inspiration for that amazing avatar?:cool:

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She doesn’t call him a ‘bitch,’ but says that she doesn’t understand how a boyfriend who lives on a college campus only 5 minutes away doesn’t make more of an effort to see his girlfriend, and she REPEATEDLY says “I’m done with him.”

In other words, I don’t think he’s giving his girlfriend as much attention as she wants.

And I JUST ordered A314…

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If she keeps saying she’s done with him, but is still with him, that just signals alarms for me.

If you’re done with someone, you’re done. If you say it and don’t do it, you want the attention and the comfort from other men to say hey, it’s ok, you’re better than that, you’re worth more than that, or whatever else. The 2nd guy makes her feel better momentarily, while she still sticks with the 1st guy.

The cycle repeats.

I don’t know how many times this has happened, but if it happens more than once, it aint worth it. Or you just call her out, in a nice way, and hold her responsible for her actions. Therefore you won’t be catering to her emotional needs and being the crutch. You take charge, you become the alpha, ramps up some attraction points for you.

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Got the idea from you RADMAN from another post on IJ. Hadn’t seen that movie in a while and watched that clip and thats how I feel with my mix. :smiley:

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SICK just purchased some more IO and IH. I REALLY should be thinking about getting the bigger bottles though.

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Well, I got back to school from Thanksgiving break, and go into my friend’s room (the one that used to hook up with her). She’s sitting on the bed with him, and they are watching YouTube videos together, and she’s coloring a picture for school. I go over to see what’s up, and she just has an annoyed look on her face. She then asks me to go away because ‘I’m standing in her light.’

Seriously, it’s moments like these that I don’t understand girls. Very two-faced creatures.

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ok bro, seriously, if she said it the way you describe then you should call her on it and tell her something along the lines of

“I don’t know, maybe you got used to guys accepting disrespectful behavior from you because they’ve been so desperate that they’ll put up with anything as long as you let them hit it…but I ain’t hitting it and even if I was I wouldn’t put up with the kind of rudeness and disrespect you’ve been displaying so learn some manners and grow the fuck up. You’ll find that class and maturity goes a long way toward impressing real men.”
Then walk the fuck away…SMILING!

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Not everything is a test, but then again…it is. Life’s a test. Ok, my point. Fluff it off, don’t think about it twice, and really don’t take it personally. If she has the slightest bit of interest in you, if you walk off in a huff, have a serious talk with her about it later, and god forbid talk about how you were hurt by her actions, you will kill it.

Look, this is stuff I have to tell myself over and over every day. I have OCD, and anxiety. I tend to obsess over the most insignificant things. Someone doesn’t text me back within 5 minutes and if I were to allow myself to, I could go down a road for two hours about how its because they don’t respect me, and next time I see them I’m gonna tell them this and that. Well come to find out they were in a movie and I made the right choice just going off and doing something else and not worrying about it.

The I don’t care attitude is one you need to take in life in general. This does not mean you do not care about anything, that you’re disrespectful. What it does mean is you pick and choose your battles wisely. If a girl pushes your buttons you put her in check in a light non-threatening way. Like in that case you could have just played it off and said something like…“I just wanted to see the next masterpiece they were hanging on the refrigerator door…what are you five years old?” Chuckled then walked off.

Now if she decides to really test you in a way that’s demeaning, or below the belt, then you lay the law down, but in a respectful way. Don’t over dramatize the situation. We had a holiday party the other day and the new girl I’m seeing waited until the last minute to let me know she wasn’t coming. I informed her that would not happen again, I would not tolerate such nonsense. I didn’t yell, I just stated a necessary fact and then moved on…I was firm..and not emotional.