Calm down Olfact, just let it go my man.
Who is nobrain?What kind of chemicals he wants to send people?He sais that one bottle will contain pheromones and the other - ordinary cologne.But nobrain is just a name in a forum.Where hi lives?What’s his name?Occupation?Is he a company representative or ordinary person?He may be a sociopath, serial killer, those bottles could contain even poison.Who will garantee that this will not happen?Did he try pheromones - no one knows.I think that this person cannot be trusted at all.
What does that mean? Walking on thin ice?
Like I said.. YOU are hurting sales here big time.. because what you just said could be said for the company running this forum.
Certified by who?
You use the products.. so who are you? How do we know you aren’t one of the company owners behind a user name?
Why do you have such a problem with someone wanting to test a product?
Here’s a little bit of advertising trivia for you… Remember the old commercials on TV for the “Pepsi Challenge”? Guess who started that challenge… NOPE not Pepsi. It was the makers of Coke that started them. They went to Pepsi and asked permission to do public taste tests between the two soft drinks. Pepsi jumped at it because it was free research and advertising. Turned out Coke put both feet in the doo doo though because their tests showed more people preferred Pepsi than Coke. So coke decided not to use filmed footage of the tests in their marketing. But Pepsi had a clause in the contract they signed to let coke do the tests that said Pepsi would get copies of the footage. The rest is history…
So again I ask… why all the problems with someone wanting to test the products?
Dude… really I am not terribly worried that having given nobrain my address he will hop on a plane to Winnipeg, go to my house and attack me… simply because I gave him my address.
If he was a sociopath would it not be easier just to find someone to attack that didn’t require a plane ride to find?
Adding poison to what he sends… once again - what is nobrains payoff for doing so?
I fully plan on letting my kids trick or treat, yet it is JUST AS LIKELY that some sociopath poisons a bunch of candies in a way that I can’t tell… You rarely hear about it happening… and most of the time it turns out that the poisoned kid and the poisoner were connected somehow.
Complete random acts of sociopathy are exceedingly rare… if you are worried about poison the solution is simply… go grab a 5$ feeding mouse from the pet store and see if it dies if you spray it… mouse doesn’t die you almost certainly won’t die.
Partialness and bias is ridden across this whole thing. Walking on thin ice? You have no credibility. Your experiment structure is flawed. Show me some university degree that has anything to do with science that may pertain to this test (which you probably don’t have). Your gonna have to be a lot more shrewd and thorough with your homework Miss Erin Brockovich. You are already partial about the whole thing and you might as well be the Coke company as Papa gave a prime example of what you would probably do.
As a floridian I admire your attempt to cool me down K-train. Too many times I let people get their way. As an asian I’ve been tested and ridiculed much of my young life from assholes and I refuse to back down from this.
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Its obvious you haven’t read the forum much.[/qoute]
No need to get snitty. I was honestly just curious.
Exactly, so then why all the animosity towards him? You are all trying to drive him away without even knowing his intentions.
Actually.. what I got from his requirement for experienced users was he wanted people who knew how to use pheromones rather than use people who may use them improperly thereby skewing the results due to incorrect usage…
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It was not done out of seeking the truth it was done as a insult to those users.
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I saw no insult at all. Can you show me?
Where did he do this? Again please show me.
Personally… I would prefer to see MORE unbiased tests done on things like pheromones. That way I wouldn’t be so skeptical about some things.
I’ve run internet message boards before and I know how users can be faked.. I am NOT saying that is being done here.. I am just saying that this may go through a lot of peoples minds when reading here. That maybe all the users with the glowing reports are just fake users with the company owners posting behind the fake names…
Ever heard about the big Oxy Clean hoax? How Billy Mays set up an internet forum and made up a bunch of fake users posting all these glorious posts about what Oxy Clean could do… The first formula of Oxy Clean was useless.. it didn’t clean anything… you might just as well have thrown baking flour into your wash as Oxy Clean. Billy Mays got sued over that and was forced to buy another companies product that actually worked, change the name to Oxy Clean and start over.
That’s fine for you. But as I said, how does anyone know who you are? How does anyone know you aren’t just a company owner?
If the products are really that good then you would think the company would welcome unbiased tests to confirm it.
Again.. how is anyone’s integrity insulted? All he did was asked for participants in an experiment. You tell him to test them and he is trying to do just that but you are jumping all over him for it. I would think you would prefer to have people who are members here testing, because as you say you trust them, instead of him just doing tests on his own or with his friends and coming in and saying the tests showed the products didn’t work… If members here did the test, then as I said they will surely post their results on their own outside of any posts Nobrain makes about the results…
Frankly.. I’d be very leery of a company who was this defensive and showed this much animosity toward a prospective research project to prove a products worth.
I actually had the idea of doing my own form of testing for this project. Tish actually mentioned it herself.. I am going to tell my brother and buddy I got a new cologne and spritz them with it. But one will be spritzed bottle A form what I receive and the other with bottle B… then I will watch the two of them and see what happens…
However.. I believe I will be getting my Turn Up The Heat sooner.. so I am going to try the project with that. As I mentioned in another post I am going to try TUTH tonight on my lady friend. But I will know I am using it…
This Saturday my brother and buddy and I are going out to a very popular singles dance in our city. I’m going to do the blind spray thing on my brother and buddy then. Spray one of them with TUTH and the other with just regular cologne and watch them and see what happens…
I’ll post my results…
And what exactly do his preconceived notions have to do with the results of the experiment? He isn’t the one doing the testing. He is just reporting the results, which as I have stated the actual testers will probably post as well on their own… so what are you so afraid of?
He only posted that AFTER people here started attacking him.
Hmm… Who is Androtics Pheromone Research? I goggled the nae and I don’t think you want me posting what I came up with. Who is Smartmones? Again, I googled it and I doubt you want me posting the results… When I do a google on pheromones I come up with a LOT of different companies… the two I just mentioned were pretty low on the list.. I only ordered from them because they were one of the very few who accept PayPal.
Like i said before.. what you say about Nobrain can be said of Androtics Pheromone Research and Smartmones…
At least your planned experiment has merit in contrast to nobrain’s. It has to be a blind test for it to have any value at all and nobrain does not even have that concept within his grasp. Animosity? Yes I will have animosity against a person who exercises ignorance while claiming to be a servant of the truth. BTW for nobrain’s concern with A314. I don’t own the product but my friend who introduced me to androtics let me use it for 2-3 weeks. Among the other competitors out there for androtics to go and say every little ingredient is like to give away the proprietary formula in which other competing companies could and would mimic the product in order to mass produce it for themselves to steal
market share. As it is already fragrance companies are NOT obligated to post the ingredients in their parfums either so what are you really getting at here.
And??? Bernie Madoff’s investment company was registered with the BBB AND the Stock Exchange Securities Commission… That didn’t stop him from scamming billions of dollars form many many people did it…
Posting that link is like pointing to a cop in my city and saying “Now you can trust that guy because he’s a cop.” 85% of the time you’d be wrong.
Show me the same for Andronics Direct and Smartmones… As I said I googled both and what I came up with wouldn’t please you or any of the others here attacking Nobrain.
And you didn’t gain anything from my post about coke and pepsi… See.. Coke didn’t mind Pepsi running the footage in their commercials because guess what… BILLIONS of dollars in FREE advertising!!!
I’d like to know what you found by googling AD and Smartmones.
You do realize that there are a number of other competitor sites out there which aren’t nearly as civil in their interactions with other businesses as well as their own customers right? AD has been subject to mass attacks from other companies in the past. For some reason I feel that’s what this is right now, just in a bit of a roundabout way.
So you are jumping to the conclusion that the testers will automatically be able to know which bottle the pheromones are in and which contains no pheromones before testing…
What if the tester has never used the particular pheromone they are sent? How will they know which is which???
What if nobrain screws something up and both bottles end up contaminated? This would highly skew the entire ‘experiment’.
Hey Nobrain, didn’t have time to read all these posts. But I wanted to point out something of interest.
I medically cant smell, this condition is hereditary. But I can feel stimulation in my nose when I sniff these pheromones, I get a reaction.
Theres no real explanation to this, but whatever is in Androtics bottles its more then fragrance.