Do the google… Type “Androtics Pheromone Research” exactly as I just did with the quote marks. Then do the same with Smartmones. See.. that way you can’t say I posted lies… you’ll see it for yourself.
Come on! Other companies can send it to a lab and easily determine the contents. And, a new pheromone (as their must be in A314) I believe can be legally protected; thus this is not really sincere.
Perfumes may not have to list their ingredients, but were are talking pheromones here – something that supposedly effects your BRAIN.
I can go around the bend with you as well but it doesn’t seem like a worthy prospect. What am I afraid of? Nothing. You want a debate about it I will. After reading all of his posts and your posts I have ill faith towards both of you. Your tests will have little to no impact no matter what the results are on this forum either freaking way. I love the generalizations like madoff and the police. Go and do what you want just know this is a forum and unless an admin explicitly tells me not to I will rant and argue whether its for me or on behalf of androtics.
What if he doesn’t?
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I can go around the bend with you as well but it doesn’t seem like a worthy prospect. What am I afraid of? Nothing. You want a debate about it I will. After reading all of his posts and your posts I have ill faith towards both of you.
ROTFLMFAO… Exactly what did I do to deserve any ill will from anyone???
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Your tests will have little to no impact no matter what the results are on this forum either freaking way.
You basically just admitted you won’t accept the truth either way.
Generalizations??? LMAO… they fit the scenerio perfectly.
Fill yer boot… But don’t flatter yourself into thinking it matters one tidy bit to me.
I just did that. I don’t see anything that really raises any eyebrows.
if you’re talking about the ‘everything else is just stupid’ then I don’t know what to tell you dude
Well.. for starters.. I came up with no credible scientific certifications, nothing that denoted AD or Smartmone was the TOP pheromone company as stated here, nothing basically.. except for a bunch of other sites selling their products.. which by the way trace right back to the same owners here.
I DID find a few scam reports though.
Obviously the whole thing is some planned attack on androtics from some competitors maybe.Funny… 
You keep saying this, but then FAIL to supply any information. What is your point?
If you have something to say, well say it.
Gotta love a 44 year old talking down to me b/c I haven’t lived as long as he has. That I won’t accept the truth? Consider the forum a plural entity I’m merely an individual on here. EVEN if you could prove to me that everything I’ve experienced is hocus pocus theres a whole legion of individuals not affiliated to any pheromone company that will not subscribe to your following. With your madoff example its almost as if your trying to claim every person in the world is evil and they somehow need to prove to you otherwise. I hate cops to death, one took off my mirror gave me a ticket and almost got my license revoked. Does that mean all cops are bad or even your made up 85 percent number holds true? I doubt it and thats with the perception that I hate cops to the point of wanting america to be under martial law. There are good cops in the world.
Learn to read my friend maybe I can teach you a thing or two about context clues.
I actually think the test is a relatively sound method of establishing the validity of pheros
My personal though would be to ask the 10 users to send their reports on their observed effects in PM’s to me - I would compile the results once all 10 users have reported… (both said which bottle has the phero’s and their observed effects)
After compilation I would publish everything - all the users reports (including which bottle was the correct bottle) and my analysis of the results.
I would want to ensure that nobody could accuse me of doctoring the results, thus the experienced well known users. I would also post an encrypted Jpeg that anyone can access and download prior to starting the experiment - the jpeg would show a table with all the testing users and show clearly for each of those users which bottle was pheros and which wasn’t (and what phero I i put into the bottle… same phero for all ten bottles - The phero would be an available mix from androtics). To open the encrypted Jpeg you would need a password which I would provide upon posting the final results.
That was nobody could accuse me by saying that I actually put phero’s in A and said that I put phero’s in B.
Androtics Direct does not sell anyone’s pheromone products but our own, except in the exception of selling an MX or two that contains our ingredients with a recipe created by a trusted forum user. With that said again I encourage you to cite sources of all those companies “tracing” back to Androtics Direct. If you can’t cite sources than your claims are baseless and opinion. Everyone is entitled to opinions 
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So please, enough of the cryptic nonsense of talking in circles and refusing, for whatever reasons, of citing any source.
There are countless studies on pheromones and the research conducted around them. You’re so good with Google, I’m surprised you have not been able to come up with any.
Snort, This is exactly what I mean. If you had read the forum you would know who I am. Believe me I haven’t been snitty just yet.
I have no animosity towards him and I have the right to feel the way I feel. I also have the right to voice it here. If he wants to test and some fool wants to give him there address fine go ahead. He wont have to get on a plane to hurt people if its his intention. He just needs to lie. I am not saying he is a liar. You dont know him and neither do you, or do you ? I am not asking you to believe pheromones work. I am asking you to try them out for yourself and share what you think good or bad. All the reports in here are not glowing ones.
Exactly so you dont get a bunch of people you dont know who use mone, You get people who know nothing about pheromones to test it with you. This way you can witness it with you own eyes instead of just hearing about it online. I think this would be more accurate and unbiased.
This makes me laugh the hardest, Sure I sit here all day posting under different names and in 3 different forums to boot. I also work as a life coach and at the post office plus I go out and test pheromones. Hell I am amazing, its a wonder I have time to rip you all off. 
You really haven’t read the forum have you ? Before I just thought you were being devils advocate. You just looked at the few “glowing reports” here and there. 6 months ago the very owner of this company called me about one of my glowing reports and asked me if I was trying to destroy them so please before you make all sorts of ridiculous comments read the forum and check around the pheromone community a little.
It dosent matter who I am, I never asked you to believe me nor did I try to sell you anything.
Because he is not unbiased. 
Your unbiased… he has already made up his mind and if you go back and read his posts then you would know that. He is not here to find the truth. He is here to prove us wrong.
If different when a member who has been in here for a long time and participates in the forum asks for people to test something. Nobrain is probably a good guy. We dont know but my point is if you have spent any time in this forum then you know we get our share of flamers and trolls. Some people are not honest and just set out in life to prove everything anyone believes in wrong. They do this not to find the truth but to try to make everyone as miserable as they are inside. They think its for our own good. Who is to say that he is not one of those trolls. I could test for him and report they work and he would say I didnt send real pheromones. I could test and say they dont work and he could say they are pheromones. There is no way of knowing. This is why I think its better for him to test himself and just give his opinion on what he experienced.
Being a registered company doesn’t protect you from crappy products. That’s not the point we are making here, but it does insure you know who these people are, how to contact them and where they are located. Its not like its some anonymous seller on eBay or something selling pee in a bottle. Being members of the BBB insures that you can check and see if they have been complaints about them in a non bias environment. I believe there are a few out there but 2 or 3 complaints out of the 100’s of customers that purchase from them daily is not a bad ratio. I have seen worse with other vendors.
I didnt say points, I said I never made a dime. Its not like I am the only member here who can earn points. That’s open to you and everyone else. If the products were not good and didnt work we wouldn’t bother trying to earn points because they wouldn’t be worth anything.
By the way I beg to differ on the dodge not being worthless. I wouldn’t pay a dime for a dodge so I guess its a matter of opinion 
Tisha
I wouldn’t be too worried about Wrlp Casanova. I have seen his posts ever since I first started posting here and know that he is a pretty intelligent poster who knows what he’s all about besides knowing what he’s talking about. He may actually even help out in return with his expertise.
I resent the implication Tisha… and really - what can someone do with my address and a lie?
The worst I can see is sending a bomb in the mail or something… but WHERE IS THE MOTIVATION? Even sociopaths have motivations for their actions (however twisted)… if you want to hurt someone there are MUCH easier ways to do it that I imagine would bring more satisfaction than hurting or killing a random faceless entity over the internet.
I guess maybe if I hid my pheromone use and was afraid of anyone at my house finding out… but I don’t do that. If he were to send a letter to my house saying I use pheromones (check his Username) my LTR’s response would be “No shit… I read a bunch of what he posted a couple weeks ago”
Also Wrl, this is NOT directed at you.
I’m tired of this thread, someone kill it.
Since I have been not feeling well with something these last few days I have been unable to respond to any of this.
Personally pheromones have changed my life and YES I do work for Androtics direct. I did come to work for them however, only after they changed my life and that’s cool. Everyone is entitled to an opinion regardless if it differs.
What I’d like to know is what I can do for you nobrain (BTW, a very interesting name you have there 
)? Is there some way I can help answer any questions you might have or put to rest any concerns you might have? Of course when you join a forum of like-minded people and in in a little over a week you rack up 155 posts all questioning those very peoples ideas, you will tend to get some resentment over those posts. It’s normal human reaction and if it’s not, well everyone here all means well and have sincere honest intentions to better their lives. May I ask you what your intentions are?
Why did you come to PheroTalk and what is it you seek from pheromones? Are you attempting to debunk the science of pheromones? There are certainly a lot of scientific studies provided in the Studies and Abstracts section of the forum, you may find very interesting: Studies & Abstracts - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum I’ve generously included a link and I’m pretty certain all of them have scientific cited sources. I’d like your take on them to understand what you are thinking and why.
I’d be more than willing to share my experiences and any knowledge I have with you. You might not be aware of this but in case you somehow missed it, we have a toll free hotline to call. Just click this word HOTLINE and follow the link for all the telephone support numbers.
So again I’d really like to be able to assist you in discovering what you seek. I imagine you are a simply looking for legitimate answers and I’d be more than willing to share anything I can. So in the spirit of giving and learning my friend, what is it that I can do for you?
ROTFLMFAO… I had already put my order in for Turn Up The Heat before Nobrain even posted his experiment. LMAO. So what exactly would I have to gain by attacking AD? Which I’m NOT doing!! I am just being realistic.
I’ve already said it even though I didn’t need to. All one had to do was google the names.