But the google searches don’t turn up anything. Maybe 1 or 2 very isolated ‘scam report’ sites because of a mishandled order.
I still don’t get what you’re plying at and you’re not doing yourself any favors by alluding to nothing at all.
Proving that wearing pheromones is subject to a Placebo affect only proves that the Placebo works, and this is already ‘common knowledge’. It does not actually test if pheromones work or not it only shows the abstract workings of a product.
Similarily, Giving someone a surgar pill would prove that person is subject to Placebo, but that does not document how the real pill, with medicine reacts with people.
As per ‘androtics products being a scam’, You can find a hand full of websites for any product that people believe to be a scam with no solid evidence. Someone simply stating that a product is a scam does not mean jack.
I have a list of websites that Pherlure owns, and I can prove it too - on some of these websites they slander competitor’s products for being a scam, posing as customers among other things. Getting google hits with nobodies crying wolf is not worth wasting your time on; if it is a legitimate scam then they can document their findings with evidence like i have done with pherlure.
Pheromones are also not a controlled substance as far as im aware, therefore there is no ‘certification’. I think what you are looking for is for AD to present you with a third party lab analysis to say what the claim to be putting in their products is infact what they put in. Unfortunately, this does not validate ‘pheromones’ as an actual working substance.
A little research will find you with many real analisys of pheromones, as well as news in regards to pheromone research. There simply would not be this much ‘evidence’ validating pheromones if they truely did not work, let alone investment in the medical sectors etc..
As with most people, I believe their expectations of pheromones is far from realistic. This is not a legalised date rape drug, pheromones are very over rated in how they react and, for the most part people can be a little too enthusiastic to praise pheromones for their whole experience when really it was just an ice breaker.
–Oysters are regarded as a aphrodisiac but you don’t get giant orgies being conducted in resturants.
I find it ironic that most people would agree that cologne /perfume would give you a good impression upon another person, and yet a more subconsous scent cant not give a good/negative impression upon another person?
Dispite what people often beleive, there are more than 5 sense and pheromones would certainly be one of them, and as with any of the other senses there are pleasurable ones and not so pleasurable ones.
ROTFLMFAO!! Where the hell did I say anything about your age??? LMFAO. I’m not talking down to anyone. I am simply posting observations and facts here.
You certainly are, but you act like you speak for the entire forum.
What following?? LMFAO I’m not looking for a following. I saw a bunch of people jumping all over a guy for simply wanting to runs an experiment on products available and saw a bunch of very ridiculous information being posted by the attackers so decided to refute the attacks.
ROTFLMFAO really??? How so??? Someone posted that this company is registered with the BBB, so I cited a perfect example of how being registered with BBB means NOTHING!!! ANYONE can register their company with the BB. It doesn’t mean they are reputable or honest. I am NOT saying that means this company is the same, as I have said SEVERAL times!!! I am saying being registered with the BBB give no one any credibility!!!
ROTFLMFAO… My 85% corruption rate for my city’s police force was published in a study done of Canadian Police forces last year by the government!!!
ROTFLMFAO… OK.. I’m gonna fill you in on something here and tech YOU something.
I have an MBA (with honors) from McGill University. I majored in Marketing and minored in Business Strategy. I worked for a company called 5th Business, one of the leading marketing firms in Canada. I was awarded three ASTRIDs during my time there.
I left 5th Business in 2006 to start my own Event planning company which involves a HUGE amount of marketing. My company is VERY successful due to my knowledge of marketing and business strategies. So let’s just say I know what I’m talking about when I discuss anything to do with marketing or business strategies.
One of the worse things a company can ever do is jump all over someone who wishes to test it’s products the way the people in here have jumped all over Nobrain. Anyone who acts in the manner some of the people have in here only brings suspicion on the company in question. It makes it look like the company has something to hide.
Now… As I said, I had already placed my order for Turn Up The Heat BEFORE Nobrain even made his post about his experiment. The reason I chose this company was due to it’s marketing on it’s store site and this forum… however, the behavior in this forum is now giving me second thoughts on the environment here…
At other sites I read ridiculous claims in posts by so called forum users. Boasts of a guy having his buddy’s wife throw him down in the kitchen at a party and having sex with him because of pheromones. A guy claiming his boss called him into her office and having sex with him on her desk because of pheromones. Claims form guys saying that several women would be clawing at them in night clubs and such when they used pheromones. Guys claiming women would suddenly spin to look at them from across the street and then cross the street and invite them to have sex (this is ridiculously impossible because pheromones can NOT travel that far)… etc…
I didn’t see any of this on the store site here or in the forums. Which gave me the impression they didn’t use ridiculous claims to sell their products. This in turn made me feel the company is reputable. However… seeing the actions of some in the forums against Nobrain gives me pause for concern.
As I stated to Casanova.. some of you here are hurting this company instead of helping it by making it look like the company has something to hide when outside tests are treated the way Nobrain’s has been.
That being said… I’m going to come to my own conclusions on the worth of their products. I’ll use Turn Up The Heat and see what happens and report on it TRUTHFULLY!!! I will conduct the experiment with Nobrain and report on it TRUTHFULLY!!!
If anyone is so hell bent against Nobrain then my suggestion to you is to just ignore him because all you’re doing is bringing more attention to his thread thereby making others more curious about it and thereby making them more apt to want to take part in the experiment. If the products work as you are so adamantly stating then you have nothing to fear.
But when you start attacking someone who wishes to do tests on the products then you make it look like you’re afraid to have the product tested because the product won’t stand up to the test.
You expect everyone to just blindly trust this company and the posters in here yet don’t even give Nobrain the same courtesy.
I think it would be better to have one thread, or area where the testers can post their results themselves and allow EVERYONE to analyse them and discuss them. This way the testers can post how they used the pheros, where, etc.. and others could suggest other ways or places to use them if the first tests didn’t show positive results and such.
The thread, or area could also be set so only the testers and certain experience phero users could post to keep the reading to a minimum without a bunch of distractions…
But everything on here IS based on outside testing, nobrain’s testing idea is nothing new. What does this company have to hide, or what do we have to hide is what I don’t understand. Everything you read on here is based on pure testing. Blind testing, group testing, testing of the putatives with unknown possible pheromone effects, and what have you. So as mentioned this is nothing new.
No-one here EXPECTS everyone to blindly trust the company. Each and every person who’s contributed to the forum EXPECTS people to be smart about things, read the forums, ask for advice, and test these products for themselves. This forum isn’t for everyone and that’s perfectly fine. We do damn well here amongst ourselves with open minded people who are willing to go into this type of product testing with an open mind.
I came here randomly and found the discussion and the level of input from the forum members to be enticing as well as the $25 GC for the introduction so that I could test the products FOR MYSELF and find out if they worked for me.
Nobrain came here with a preconceived notion and an agenda to discredit the years of contributions people have made to this forum and that AD has made towards the overall research and development of these pheromone products.
I DID cite my source.. GOOGLE!!! I even posted exactly how to use it the same way I did so those who wished to corroborate or refute my claims would get the same results I did.
I didn’t say AD sold other companies products.. I said I found other site selling AD products and all those sites traced back here, meaning they were registered to the same owners of this site..
I haven’t once said pheromone don’t work. I never once said AD’s products don’t work. I haven’t even so much as implied it in the slightest bit. I have in fact stated several times I ordered Turn Up The Heat and will post my results on it.
That said.. I encourage you to read a little more carefully before you start jumping on someone.
That’s pretty much what this entire section of the forum is. Most of us keep journal logs on the site too so we can track our own progress and other people can give legitimate feedback and insight.
And by making it only accessible to ‘testers’ or ‘experienced users’ would defeat the entire purpose of this forum. We welcome new people to try the products and keep us updated on their progress or lack thereof. If you would spend any time reading and going through the threads you would see the length and depth of the discussion in a lot of these posts. I have found a wealth of knowledge from people that has helped me and I’m sure the information has helped many others too.
Granted there is more room here for additional things to cause ‘distractions’ but such is the flow of conversation and communication exchange.
Maybe you should actually read the forum a bit more before making such comments.
Exactly, it’s like you’re putting everyone’s past testing down the drain and are seeing nobrain’s pheromone testing idea as something new and possibly groundbreaking when the fact is that everyone on here (especially the veteran members which have moved on) have already done A LOT of testing and have done this before. Trusted pheromone expert members like Dancing Joker, tacitus, Nbully, renny, Warren, Mark in Dallas, and many more. What, do their tests not matter? Well, probably to you they don’t since you’ll just think that it’s all made up jargon. However, to many of us it means a lot and that’s when the line is crossed. Making us read that our believe could possibly be nothing but a possible “ploy” is definitely a touchy subject.
Great I’m sorry but I live in America so your government study about police in Canada which is only one country in the world. O yeah you forgot to put the letter “A” in the word you were trying to spell as “teach”. Lovely an MBA you dont get the point at all. I don’t mind someone trying to refute mones thats their business but at least do it under the right conditions. If you even look at what Nobrain was saying it doesn’t even properly follow the scientific method in terms of subjects being used. The results he would’ve derived from users that already USE mones would be obsolete at best and I don’t need a dumb MBA to tell you that. I’m criticizing the soundness of the test not entirely nobrain himself as an individual you oaf.
For your information the first product I ever used doesn’t even come from this company and I had no “conjured” literature in which to exaggerate my so called make believe perceptions of what I saw around me. Your accusations are rotten b/c nobrain has already brought slanderous remarks towards peoples questions in another thread so I don’t believe he deserves any sort of common courtesy.
For people in the states when you get the 25 dollar GC just by introducing yourself its enough to buy at least 2-3 to go products with an addition of 7-10 dollars of you own due to shipping. We don’t hold a knife to a person’s throat to tell us good results. What is 0-10 dollars to try something on AD’s own faith? Nothing.
dont mean to insult anyone, no disrespect for anyone or any company, but am keen to participate on this test. also… dont u think it’s best to try this test on the newbies? cos the newbies (including myself) dont know nothing about pheros. and no am not here to get a free bottle, i already ordered IO and TUTH. am just here to participate the test genuinely,
but no brains, can u send the bottles to australia? where i am? that way we can even broaden the test to an international level.
also, one more thing, u have to be 100% genuine that u’re gonna send one bottle of a genuine sample of phero’s, (not dialuted or altered in any way) because that way u can mess up the test.
just another question that popped in my head. no brains said that one bottle will have a normal clogne WITHOUT pheros and the other one WITH pehros. correct me if am wrong, but isn’t the effect of the phero getting close to nothing at all when it’s mixed with clogne? just genuinely curious to know. cos i dont know it.
once again, no disrespect to any user of this forum or any company, (as all of the users in this forum seem to be nice and frienly and lot of’em welcome me when i was new to her) am just participating this test only because am curious to find out the results.
I am sorry Wrlprchnx. I didnt see your post saying you would do the test. I know your no fool. You cant know his motivation without knowing who he is. I would get to know him before sending info. I dont think he plans to murder you LOL.
Think about what I posted below that though…
It dosent matter what he sends you. I have no doubt you will have no problem testing it. However I have doubts he will admit your correct in your testing and there will be no way to prove him wrong short of sending it to a lab.
You can say bottle A worked great and he can say there is no pheromones in it.
You can say bottle B worked great and he can say there is no pheromones in it.
If he makes a fool out of you it proves his point and it wont be the first time he has done this on a subject.
Tisha
Cologne will only affect the pheromones in terms of volume. Obviously the more cologne you mix with a pheromone product the more product you will have to spray/ roll on. 2x or 4x of a product are more suitable for mixing with cologne and preferably in neroli scent so the scent of the cologne won’t be altered too much.
Look at my join date… Now search for my first post… I HAVE INDEED read these forums!!! I spent a LONG time reading before I even made my first post.
So again… Who are you??? You could be one of the company owners, you could be a guy posing as a woman, you could be in prison right now for all anyone here knows (YES prisoners DO have web access). Your posts don’t prove anything with any tangible evidence.
Really??? Hmm well that seems to be your problem right there. You don’t seem to know how to recognize animosity.
So anyone who gives their info to him is a fool??? Hmm then what would you call someone who gives this company their info AND their money??? I can find just as much info on Nobrain as I can on this company. Very little!!! The same goes for every single company I have looked at that sells pheromones. Little to no info on them aside form their own sites.
Umm actually.. yes you just did… actually you did worse.. you insinuated he is trying to harm people.
I don’t know anyone from this company either. So what’s your point???
Hmm that’s exactly what Nobrain is trying to do as well. Only he’s offering FREE pheromones to people to do it. The difference between he and the company is one needs to spend money to test the company’s products if they just buy them from the company. And as I have stated many times, I have already purchased Turn Up The Heat… so again… what’s your point???
Ouch!!! Thanks for making my point for me!!! You just clearly stated I shouldn’t listen to you or anyone else here who has been attacking Nobrain. The difference again is, with Nobrian I get free pheromones and get to help in some research.
There are MANY companies out there that do exactly that!!! So… How does one know this company isn’t doing it??? Again.. I am NOT saying they are.. I am saying you are ridiculously delusional if you think anyone should come here and just blindly believe what they read. You keep touting the glowing reviews here as if they are gospel truth yet I see absolutely no tangible evidence to prove them. As I have said several times.. I will judge myself when my Turn Up The Heat arrives.
Oh really?? Did I? Prove it!!! As I said, I spent close to a month reading here before I made a single post.
Really??? Prove it!!!
Actualy.. it DOES matter who you are. If you are a company owner you have an agenda. If the company pays you, you have an agenda. I am NOT saying these things are true, I am saying it DOES matter who you are!!! And you sure do seem like you’re trying to sell me something.. you keep telling me to buy the products and test them instead of getting them free from Nobrain.
So what? I already stated, it looks to me like he isn’t the one testing. Others are. So what if her proves you wrong? Does the truth scare you that much? What happens if he proves you right???
And when you say something like “he is here to prove US wrong”… You certainly sound like you have a vested interest in the company.
Who is to say you aren’t a company owner??? Again.. you expect people to just blindly trust you and the other members here yet you refuse to afford the same courtesy to Nobrain.
OK… you keep saying Nobrain has already made his mind up about the products… So what? You and others here have already made your mind up about Nobrain without even knowing him.
Here’s a little food for thought here… What if someone tried pheromones from another company and they didn’t work. Would it be fair for this person to then jump to the conclusion that AD products and all other pheromone products don’t work??? Nope… it wouldn’t would it. But that’s exactly what you are doing with Nobrain. Just because others have come here trying to hurt the company you automatically think anyone who has even a hint of a negative perspective or skeptisism is here to do the same.
I’ve already addressed the BBB issue in another post so I won’t be redundant.
I think we all need to remember a post made a member that shed a great deal of light on this entire issue:
Case and point.
oh come on guys, seriously. let’s just finish all this crap and get on with the tests. am kinda yawning just reading all this stuff. lol. only joking. 
look i know there’re lot of people who did the tests already. and due respect for all of’em. but let’s have some fun and do some more testing. it won’t harm anything will it? so let’s go for a truce. and get on with it. lol. now no brains, am i in or what brother?? am exited to at least ENTER a group test like this.
How do we know you don’t know nobrain and aren’t one of his associates?
This is just a loop of arguing that gets no where. Everyone drop the stupid crap.
Test the products you bought. Tell us your results. Stop the goddamn arguing. Its not going anywhere.
And I have no idea what made you buy tuth as your first product if you have been reading around the forums for a month. Most people like to recommend what have been dubbed social mones to beginning users, as it is easiest to see the results with. I am not saying you are not going to notice anything with TUTH, but I think it works better with someone already in a relationship with someone.
For example, my roomate was in a dry spell with his gf. I gave him a spray before he want to her house, and he thanked me for it the next day. He has used it a few times since then with consistent results. Not that you are gonna believe my story, but I thought I should share.
Did you come up with any info about the company’s so called certifications? Exactly what information did you find about the company? Like I said, I found NOTHING. I found no sites reviewing the company’s products, other than this one, and one other forum but I believe they have their own agenda there…
I found no research information on the company’s products other than what is posted here.
The only reason I mentioned the scam reports is because I KNOW that a lot of people would see those and automatically steer clear of this company often times not even reading the reports or subsequent posts on the scam site.
Now, I get the same results for pretty well all the pheromone companies I researched. Does this mean all these companies are bogus or selling bogus products? Nope… But there are a lot of people making claims in this thread that are just not true or mean very little with regards to credibility and this could end up hurting this company.
So then why are all these people so afraid to have Nobrain do his tests???
We should just close this thread from further posting and let anyone that’s interested in partaking in this so called “experiment” to just PM him their information. If you knew me in reality I’m one of the kindest friendliest people you’d ever meet if you got to know me. A lot of things Nobrain said and some things that Papa said have burst a couple blood vessels in me. This isn’t about internet ego or me making money off of AD. AD and lots of the users here remind me of a Burger joint named Roaster & Toasters which I go to quite often. The food is wonderful, the waitresses are always kind and generous with their smiles, and the service is superb. I may not know any of the waitresses or the business owner intimately but I consider them family in my own way. Now when you step on my family’s feet you are ultimately stepping on mine as well
and I won’t stand for it.