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Hi PheroTalk! You guys seem pretty well versed in a lot of interesting topics, I look forward to talking with you and maybe joining in on some other threads! I’m a guy in my late 20’s and working in the Czech Republic. I grew up in the US and moved here a few years ago while traveling around. They have great beer here!

I’m looking into using pheromones mostly to help at work, and a little to help with talking to people.

I get along fine with other guys, some even say I’m fairly respected. There have been a few incidents though where alpha males, usually someone like a boss/supervisor, I regularly interact with will freak out towards me and accuse me of “acting against them” somehow or dishonesty/incompetence. In most of these incidents it was completely proven that I didn’t do anything wrong, so they must be making stuff up for some reason. It seemed to happen a little after I got back from a long trip/vacation. I also got some similar hostility when I felt my testosterone was high after working out and taking terrestris tribulus herbs.

I’ve read a bit about pickup, NLP, neuro science, social dynamics, and pheromones. I think my natural pheromones could be causing alpha males to view me as a threat to their dominance which causes distortion and deletion in their memories to backwards rationalize their hostility to me, or something like that. Any ideas on what’s going on there?

My current situation is that my boss sometimes seems a bit hostile towards me. Maybe he feels threatened by me, maybe he’s worried that he could be replaced, maybe it’s pheromones causing aggression and distorting his perception of me, I don’t know.

Which pheromones would you guys suggest that could improve the responses I get with alpha males to make sure I present an image of trustworthiness, competence, friendliness and openness? Anything else I can do to help with that image?

I need to work on my social skills too, so I’ve been reading about pickup (where I heard about pheromones) and focusing on improving myself but I haven’t been out in the field for a long time. I’m finally at a point where I’m ready to get back out there and really hone my skills. I could use an edge in opening sets though, so I can get the most practice from each approach.

Thanks for any advice!

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Hi there, bud! Wow, Czech Republic. Very cool that you’ve landed a job there. Isn’t it hard for a foreigner to find a job?

For what you’re looking at using the mones, I would suggest IG for the suave, cool alpha vibe along with IShine to provide a comfortable to be around you vibe. Have you been doing any NLP with him? How about mirroring? Trying to establish your position with him…

Yes, natural mones, a-none, that you produce which is a byproduct of your testosterone production and working out will boost that. So, that’s my suggestion in IG, which is not a-none based, primarily. IShine is known as a social and is generally very well accepted by both sexes.

1Alpha

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Hi 1Alpha, thanks! You have some really good resource threads, I’ll be checking them often.

It was really a stroke of luck that I found this job, it was just what I was looking for right when I was looking for it. It’s a multinational company so it wasn’t as hard as it would be getting hired at a local company. It worked out great for me but I can imagine it could be pretty hard for others.

Thanks for the suggestions, I try to mirror whenever we talk, it might help a bit but it’s hard to tell if there’s much effect. I need to practice NLP more before I’m experienced enough to try much at work. He seems to operate off of instinct a lot, so maybe pheromones will be effective with him.

A bit about my situation:
Currently I’m technically a senior worker in a multinational office, but my boss considers other guys that are less skilled and have been around for the same amount of time as more senior. I’d like to be more trusted by my boss or at least keep him from freaking out like some others. I think he got his position based on his skill and he might consider me to be more skilled which might threaten him. Some of the executive people mentioned that he seems to feel a bit socially excluded which might also contribute to his feelings of being threatened. He’s not a bad guy, he’s just a bit socially awkward and lacks confidence, but he’s still pretty outgoing. Any ideas on how I can deal with him and maybe help him out?

AgFenix

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Welcome Fenix,

I guess you are starting all over from scratch and need a refresher course.

To be honest I don’t think this forum and our products and this company will be where it is without the knowledge to go with it

In addition to picking up some mones for your situation it is a great idea to let the expert PUA’s on this forum lead you as they too were in similar situations and have come a long way

Your gc was issued!

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Thanks Mickaelia! I was just thinking about how some mones could backfire if used without setting up the right social vibe first. I’ll look around the forum, maybe someone has written up how they dealt with a similar situation.