What I do is basically just apply some body oil to my neck as a base, and then spray on the pheromones after the oil settles a bit. Not sure if it works, but I got this theory from people who use this trick to make their cologne scent last longer so if it works for cologne why not pheromones?
So do you think it really makes a difference?
I think it does a bit, but then again it might also lower its evaporation to a very slow degree so it may only be best to do this on very hot days or when you think you’ll be moving around a lot (body heat.) It may also depend on how much oil you use, and I mean from what I remember reading some girls on here also like to grab a dab of lotion then spray pheromones onto the dab then rub that mix all over their body. But yeah, who knows if that works too. If you think about it though, it must because oil is sticky so the molecules must bond with the oil.
Not to mention back in those days I was still flying blind in oil formulation. That mix was 5X with 1-3 mix to DPG so not quite where it should be. I agree though it works well as an enhancer
Keep in mind that you need to be very aware of the EO you are using. I posted elsewhere that while Nutmeg oils diffusion properties are close to the very best I have ever experienced, Nutmeg also works as an anti-bacterial. This in its very essence is counter-intuitive since the molecules that make up pheromones require bacteria to help break them down and thus diffuse. Nutmeg oil by nature therefore increases your diffusion initially but in the long run kills the molecules after just a very short run. So you get immediate difusion but it only lasts 1 hour as opposed to 6-8 hours. Defeats the purpose.
Analogy: It’s like having a ten inch penis and suffering from premature ejaculation. Sad!
Love Scent is a very good company and you need not feel guilty 
Lol nice example.
I was thinking of something similar, though I never took ‘bacteria’ in to consideration. I wondered if an essential oil, such as from a lemon would have a high acid content and could break down the pheromones… I’m guessing the closer to being PH netural the better? 
Is there any information about bacteria breaking down the pheromones to help them diffuse? I knew slightly that bacteria played a role but this is the first time I heard that (a).
And sorry snoopy for derailing your thread slightly x 
You know I got that from Jasmin a while ago, but I will see if there is a post and link it back to you
At least you ejaculate. A lot of guys suffer from limp noodle syndrome.
This thread is always one of my go back to for info regarding everything since its a Futurist/Harris exchange of info: Brilliant
Another with the same people exchange: Super Smellers
Even another: Are tests repeatable? - #2 by MHarris
This is the best one yet that actually talks about how the bacterial breakdown of pheromones occur
There are many more: Just do a search on bacteria and search for posts not threads. Like any good search standard always start from the last page and come forward. Most of your best articles with participation from users like PheroQuirk MHarris, Jasmin, Futurists will be in those posts.
Product name,scent and strength
My own oil based ICM 1.25.1b Based on Steve’s ICM mix (Akuto scented in DPG with Natural Plant Musks from Androtics)
Application dosage and locations
2 drops split between the sides of the neck
2 drops split between the tops of the hands
Enviroment tested in.
Retail establishment (Cabela’s)
Self effects.
A sense of ‘Wow, this is strong!’ that died down within about 5 minutes to a feeling that I may have slightly OD’d but others didn’t seem to have a problem with it
Effects to others
More attentive- At least two cheshire cat smiles from older women (immediately as I passed). I had the male staff constantly trying to talk to me like I was a buddy. Didn’t really see much ‘attraction’ in the usual sense I’m used to with the ICM mixes. The cashier I had was very chatty and didn’t want me to leave.
Duration of effects.
~3.5 hours
Effects from mixing with other products.
n/a
Range
No more than about 4’
Time exposure.
The hits were much more subtle but they were there.
I’m honestly, I’m not sure why I was interested in trying to composite an oil mixture other than for my own knowledge. I will say that from what I experienced today the hits are much more subtle than with the sprays. Also, were I to do this again I would either get all my ingredients at cologne strength or I wouldn’t get the natural plant musks in the DPG I ordered. (Better diffusion or not, the stuff doesn’t seem to smell pretty.)The smell of the plant musks bleeds through the Akuto in a BIG way.
I did get some ‘hits’ from this but I’m going to try it again in a different environment and wear another cover scent since the Akuto scent disappeared VERY quickly leaving behind a sort of burnt rubber smell which while very subtle was still a bit jarring to my delicate nose. 
This might be decent to layer with something else (I wonder what it’d do with my ICM 1a in a spray). I am going to continue to test this out but I think I’m going to put it on the shelf for the moment to test some other goodies I’ve recently received.
Gonna try this one again today (unless plans change- tonight it will be MX114+MX337) and cover it with what I have left of FF21 to see if I can cover the plant musk smell and also see what kind of reactions I get. I don’t think I can go over 4 drops of this because the immediate self effects are so potent. Maybe I’ll try a single drop to the neck and a single drop split between the tops of my hands. I wondered if I was possibly OD’ing but I doubt it.
What does the plant musk smell like? You said not pretty. Are plant musks used in any androtics products?
I’m really not sure if they use it in anything else (I’d assume they must if they sell it in the ‘mixing supplies’ section.) I do know that even when I smelled the plant musks out of the 15ml dropper bottle before I put everything together they didn’t exactly smell pleasant so it isn’t just adding the pheros and the Akuto scent. If this oil based mix ends up working for me, I will do it next time without the plant musks.
Thats what I thought as well. I figured it was used in A314 as its oil based.
Oh what a difference a drop makes!
Apparently I was OD’ing with 4 drops of this mix. I must have seriously underestimated its strength. (Brace yourselves- I wrote a novel)
Product name,scent and strength
My own oil based ICM 1.25.1b Based on Steve’s ICM mix (6% Akuto scented in DPG with Natural Plant Musks from Androtics)
Application dosage and locations
1 drop to the front of neck
1 drop split between the tops of the hands
Covered with CB I Hate Perfume- Russian Caravan Teaabsolute
Enviroment tested in.
automobile, shopping, restaurant
Self effects.
A sense of ‘Wow, this is strong!’ that died down within about 5 minutes to a feeling of happiness, optimism, masculinity. I also felt like I needed to stand up straighter. Not the same ‘Oh CRAP! 
’ feelings I’d gotten the last time I’d worn this. In other words, no OD feelings.
Effects to others
For about the first 3 hours I wore this I was seeing lots of DIHL’s from women and men would look away. My girlfriend was on the last day of her cycle but was attached to me like glue. Big improvement from being yelled at for getting within 2 feet of her like the day before. MUCH more touchy feely than normal and just generally lovey dovey. After about 5 minutes she was sitting facing me from the passenger seat and she kept rubbing one leg up the other (I’ve seen this before- she’s feeling romantic 
). She kept wanting to hold hands and would lean into me and put her head on my shoulder (she’s only about 5’1" so she had to stretch). This is a woman who normally isn’t into touchy feelies unless she’s frisky. Sucks for me because I am a very affectionate guy but today was really nice.
We’d gone to a pub/restaurant that was pretty crowded. The seating hostess caught a wiff of me and our 35 minute wait became a ‘would you please follow me?’ Cool! Waitress was frighteningly attentive. Constantly hovering around me (pretty much ignored the GF). This caused some cattiness because if my GF wanted a refill, I had to be the one to ask for it. I also got some boobage from the waitress even though she didn’t have much to boob with. :o It was wild because there was plenty of room to reach without having to get close to me. Waitress commented twice on how ‘masculine’ I smelled while smiling. As we were leaving she quick swooped in to ask what cologne I was wearing. GF was getting VERY irritated by the waitress. For the record the waitress was caucasian with light brown hair, I’d peg as early 20’s.
Every store we’d go into (went to a place called Long Grove- an antique village where they literally sell antiques from 100+ year old houses) women would stare and men would acknowledge me with a hello. Not normal behavior by either gender. Men generally ignore me and women don’t look at me like Brad Pitt just walked in. About 3 hours after application I didn’t notice quite as much DIHL from women but they would tend to approach me and talk about anything and everything they could think of while standing closer than is appropriate. In all honesty, part of this could be chalked up to social proofing because my GF is VERY cute so they may have been seeing me as a catch at least in part because of that.
Wal-Mart several hours after initial application. I figured by now things had worn off. It had been approximately 6 hours since I’d applied but when I rubbed my neck (trying to wake myself up- had been too long since my last cup of coffee and I was feeling decaffeinated) I could smell the slight Akuto scent. I walked past a hispanic woman and I think she got whiplash because her head snapped around so quickly. Seemed like a hit to me. Once I’d rubbed my neck it seemed to unleash more pheros.
Duration of effects.
~7 hours
Effects from mixing with other products.
n/a
Range
No more than about 6’
Time exposure.
Anything from immediately to around 5 minutes before a noticeable reaction. Rubbing my hands on my neck seemed to bring out the pheros for one last hurrah of immediate reactions. That lasted a good 15-20 minutes before I couldn’t really smell/feel the phero effects.
Unbelievable what a big difference cutting down on the amount I applied made. I was operating under the (mistaken) impression that because I had an oil based mix that I needed to wear several drops of it. Basically, I ignored phero 101. Less is more. Start small and work your way up. Oh well. We are all still learning. I must have been OD’ing on this because with 2 drops I was getting hits like I’ve come to expect from the spray version of this mix. I knew I’d made a strong batch but I didn’t expect what I got. A little goes a long way here. I’m really glad that I embarked on this little experiment. One thing I want to mention that I’d forgotten at first. I no longer smell that acrid smell from the oil mix. I do slightly smell the DPG over the Akuto scent so I would definitely use cologne strength scent next time.
I don’t have a journal to put something like this into so please bear with me. I have to comment on something. I really like my GF but I have to wonder about how long we’ll be together. I’m not an alpha guy by nature. I’m laid back about life and have an open mind. She is much more closed minded and she’s definitely an alpha female. Days when I don’t have strong mixes on I have to work to keep her from trying to dominate me. I want a partner not a mother.
I’m just about out of A314 so I will have to get more unless I decide that its time to look for a woman more ‘me’. I am VERY grateful to Androtics because without these products, I’d have never though possible to attract someone and get them to genuinely like me. We connect very well on the phero free days as well as the days I’m packing so I know that pheros aren’t the only reason we are together but without the pheros I would have never gotten the confidence needed to meet someone like her. I LOVE ANDROTICS! Thanks to all of you!
Awesome news my friend! I have been watching this thread with so much interest! I will get the products and try an oil mix when I place my next order!
Do you reccommend getting the plant musks still?
Great Googley Moogley!!!
I am enthralled with your success SnoopyAce. Of course you realize that your successful brewing of an oil mix does completely change the game for 'moners. We now have an option we never had before. And I think it’s going to be a hit with many types of mixes. I know you are going to keep testing, so I hope you perceive one of the biggest benefits of oil mixes- consistency.
Good luck with your girl…and great hits with your mix!!!
Thanks! Bear in mind that this oil mix uses A LOT more pheros than the standard spray mix. in other words, it is expensive to make. I am seriously considering trying something else in an oil base just for comparison. Or putting some of this one into a roll on to see what happens.
I tried it again today with just 2 drops and saw very similar results. I just got my package from L-S with A1 and copulins in it, can’t wait to try those around the girlfriend. (The copulins REEK like parmesan cheese! )
Next time I do this (after today I’m pretty sure there will be a next time but I’m going to wait until this is gone) I’m going to try it without the plant musks and see how it goes. I can’t see how it adds that much to the diffusion. I am having trouble covering the DPG smell now with just the 6% Akuto scent in the oil, however. I’ve taken to covering this mix with other things. Since I happen to have a few different scents from CB I Hate Perfume (also oil based) I have using those but I’ve discovered that Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille and even Original Vetiver cover the oil scent nicely and I believe is also helping the diffusion. The Akuto scent is so unobtrusive that it doesn’t seem to clash with anything I’ve used to cover with.