Could you explain the part in bold for me Snoop please? Aggressive in what way?
By more aggressive I meant that it seemed to steer them towards a more sexual direction in how they thought/felt. Didn’t take much but it seemed to make a difference. My GF was the one I use it on the most and as a baseline I’ve used another version without the small amount of TAF and it came out a bit more social and less sexual. The TAF does seem to add a bit of drive or focus to the composite. My next oil based mix I plan on adding some TAF to.
Lol, well in that case then I’ll make sure to put TAF my shopping cart and make myself an order 
. I’m going to start coming up with my own mixes soon but right now I need more supplies to help with my mixes but Androtics is low on stuff so I’ll have to put my plans on hold.
Hey Snoop,
Great thread!!!
One quick question: did you let the alcohol evaporate before mixing the “formula” with DPG???
I’m planning on transforming all my alcohol based pheros to oil base.
Cheers!
Nope, diidn’t let it evaporate, just mixed it all in together. I’m planning on compositing an oil based batch of ICM …05a later today because I’ve had so much luck with the ICM …1b (just used it last night.) 
I mixed the …1b that I had with some scents from the Common scents (Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille) and went out last night. Maybe I’ll have to report on that, it was a fun night.
Funny you mentioned that, I’ve been meaning to tell you that you should mix it with The Common Scents oil clones. They also sell DPG at their site, but I think that it’s good to already have scent in oil base. I’m guessing it’ll make it way easier.
Too bad The Common Scents doesn’t have Body Kouros though, pretty much smells like Akuto.
Thanks for the tip, Looks like I’m going to have to try out Body Kouros! I made up 3 composites with Common Scents versions of Be Delicious for men, Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille and Cool Water Game scents. I wore the Tom Ford one yesterday and I felt like a vanilla air freshener because I felt the scent was too strong but judging by the reactions around me, others didn’t seem to mind! I was getting mad interest from a woman in her mid-40’s (total cougar) and everyone else around me was extra cheerful and made sure that I was the center of attention.
The Tom Ford knockoff seems to be all vanilla and no tobacco but the diffusion was amazing! I’d used one inch (roll on) to either side of my neck and about 3 inches to the top of either hand. Didn’t take much. 
Product name,scent and strength
My own oil based ICM 1.25.1b Based on Steve’s ICM mix with Common Scents Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille added at a 20% strength by volume to the composite
Application dosage and locations
3 dabs (just like using a bingo marker) One dab from a roll on bottle to each side of the neck and one split between the tops of the hands (spread the oil out at each application point)
Enviroment tested in.
GF’s House
Auto
Retail store
Self effects.
A sense of ‘Wow, this is strong!’ that died down within about 5 minutes to a feeling of happiness, optimism, masculinity. This stuff STILL gives me strong self effects.
Effects to others
GF DIHL’d me briefly when she opened the door to her apartment. Then she was oh so nice. Much more deferential then when I’m not phero’d up. Lots of eye contact, also. Woah, chatty in the car ride. Also kept touching my arm and my leg while I was driving (this I actually consider a hit because she isn’t a touchy feely person normally).
LOTS of DIHL’s at the store. It was actually kind of funny. Split second blank expressions followed by staring at me. When I’d smile, they’d smile back. And stare. Mostly women but I got my first DIHL from a guy today. 
Manager at the store we were at who caught wind of me from about 3’ and just went blank for a good 3-4 seconds. As we walk past him, my GF (who apparently noticed the other people) says, ‘What the hell is wrong with people today?!!’
Duration of effects.
~5 hours (Before I washed it off)
Effects from mixing with other products.
n/a
Range
No more than about 6’
Time exposure.
Pretty much immediate DIHL effects but the cuddly effect on my GF takes 2-3 minutes of exposure for it to take effect.
Okay. This stuff is STRONG. For most day to day type activities, I don’t need much at all. The Tom Ford knockoff from Common Scents diffuses very well which helps. I used a lot more when I’d gone on a tour of a haunted theater before Halloween and was able to get away with it because it is such a large theater and people were a bit more spread out. Using this in other situations, I’d noticed that people would avoid me a bit if I had rolled on even 2-3" total (and that is spread out over a few different application points). Dabs work fine. A little of this goes a LONG way.
One thing that I’ve noticed with people (both genders) is that certain people tend to get a potty mouth around me when I have this on. Lots of swearing or sex talk that normally wouldn’t happen. I had a friend (a women I’ve known about a year and a half or so) bragging to me about her blow job abilities. If I wasn’t in a relationship… This type of talk is very out of character for her. Not the only person I’ve seen this around, either.
I think I have a pretty good idea at least in part why this is so strong. When I’d done my calculations to make it at 5 times original strength I was using the amount of P83 that I use in my regular alcohol mix. That would be 12.5. At 5x concentration I had 62.5 mcg (per spray if it was alcohol). Eventually I’ll get my order from Androtics and I will have enough ingredients to make both my ICM …05b and another batch of ICM 1a with less P83 (probably go with 25mcg total).
Still, this has been quite the learning experience. Lots of fun, too!
Snoop, I HIGHLY recommend you give your secrets about this stuff to androtics so they can serve this stuff by the buckets because if I lived near you I’d be at your door with 50 bucks in my hand ready to buy that off you.
Anyway, GREAT STUFF!!! Also, in the spirit of research, I’m going to have to ask how the sex is with this stuff…:o
In other words, does your GF get “funky monkey kinky”?
Yes. Yes she does.
I’ve noticed that some people seem to be predisposed to being more phero reactive and my GF is VERY reactive to the pheros I have on so I have to be more careful what I’m wearing because if it is something she doesn’t react well to then the claws come out. P83 hits her particularly hard (I met her while wearing MX115).
I COMPLETELY understand what you’re saying with that right tharr.
ICM …1b oil mix…Andrews testing
Snoopyace has been gracious enough to give me some of his ICM oil mix. These are a few trial runs that I have performed. Good results so far, I really like the mix overall. I cannot wait to test this out drinking! I can see some awesome hits brewing!
Self Test
Product: Cool Water Game scented ICM 01b
Amount: 2 drops
Self effects: Whoa! I understand what Snoopyace was talking about, when he said it was strong! I have had it on for 20 min now and can feel the effects very strongly. The smell is very nice I believe he stated he used Cool Water Game scent from The-common-scents. I do not think it smells like an actual cologne though. I was at home so did not test around anyone.
Test 2
Amount: 2 Drops
Effects noticed: Wife was extra nice tonight. Everything went really smooth. We had a “talk”, as she is going back to work after about 3 months. Schedule changes and whatnot. Normally some of the issues with that can be hot button issues, nothing negative only positive vibes. Mother-in-Law came over was especially chatty to me. She has a very negative outlook on life and everything. Tonight she seemed very upbeat and positive. Even made jokes. One thing I noticed, my wife did not compliment, nor complain about the scent. She is usually very sensitive to any -None mix. This would be the first that she has not complained about. Nothing overtly sexual noticed though.
Test 3
Amount: 3 drops
Effects noticed: Took daughter to preschool. Tried to get in and out, but her teacher gave me a DIHL look. Approached me and held me in a conversation. Small talk in fact about nothing. I finally broke away. On the way out, there was a HOT young woman, probably 24, gave the whiplash look, followed by staring. I smiled and left. I was in a hurry.
Test 4
Products: A314 and ICM oil
Amount: 1 drop A314 and 2 drops ICM
Effects Noticed: Again strong initial sense of personal power. Magnified with A314. Very nice. I could do anything type of feeling. Wore to work I was very talkative. I made jokes. Neg on hot girl that sits near me. Cracked some jokes. I noticed, that man who sits at desk closest to me was making sexual innuendos. Lots of them. Funny to me
Test 5
Amount: 2 drops
I was going to meeting with about 50 other people. I had put on A314 and ICM mix about 5 hour earlier. Refreshed with 2 more drops ICM. Instant mood lift for myself and others in my immediate area. Got to meeting, sat down. There was a woman who was already sitting a couple rows away. She actually got up and came and set next to me. We chatted a bit. That was followed by my supervisor (a woman) she changed seats next to her. Then another woman sits a row away, moved next to us as well. we had a good chat, plenty of jokes, nothing sexual. Big boss was giving a presentation. All of the women who moved to sit nest to me are people who I would not normally talk to/ sit with normally.
Alright Andrew nice job! Snoop’s mix seems to be a homerun!
Hey Snoop, how much you charging for this stuff?
YAY!!! Never in a million years would I have had the balls to combine this ICM …1b with A314. You must have balls of solid steel to try that. The self effects alone would have me trying to take over the world.
Fantastic report! I’m glad that someone else has gotten positive reactions from this. A little definitely goes a long way. Thanks for taking the time to report on this!
The inital application gives me that “I can’t be fu@ked with” feeling. Its powerful. I wanted to see what that would do with the A314 feeling. Its really awesome. I would suggest you try it.
I’ll definitely have to do that!
Sorry K-Train, I’m just playing around to see if I can get even more from it for me and if it helps others then that is a huge bonus. (Not to mention that this stuff is EXPENSIVE to make!) The nice thing is that a little goes a long way and seems to work like the Energizer bunny. I can put this on and 5 hours later rub my neck or the tops of my hands and it starts it going strong again. Or I can be in a warm environment and sweating slightly and it really diffuses then.
I do plan on trying a batch of ICM …1a in oil when I get my ingredients. I really like this stuff and when I don’t OD I notice a lot from others. I put it into roll top bottles but I actually think I prefer the dropper top. I really wish Androtics sold its A314 bottles empty (I wonder if they’d sell me a few just for my own use).
No problem Snoop, I can understand what you say about expensive. Oh and just call the hotline and I’m sure SteveO can sort you out.
Very true. If anyone can hook me up with those bottles, he could.
I agree getting the amount down is difficult. I wonder if it is the P83 that causes the difficulty? Or just because its in an oil form? I actually have a dropper bottle I was going to try out to see if I had better application success. I emptied out one that I use for my perfumers alcohol to dilute strong pheromones. Then I got your message about dabbing it on, so I decided to try that. I will try the dropper then still if you get better results.
I would like to get the A314 bottle tops as well. It really helps with consistent sized drops. I would assume you probably could purchase them as a special order. Have to ask Steve when I do next order.